Do you think Fergie time was added for the same reasons then?
Of course it was and it applies to any team and not just pool or Utd
im pretty sure we have had more touches in the opposition box then other teams, could be wrong but we'd be high on the list, if you have that you have a better chance of getting a pen.
We've had a few soft ones but many of them have looked like a pen in real time, like the studge one v unitedm looked a pen all day until the slow mo replay.
Fergie time was a myth, based on another myth (i.e. we were given additional time against Sheff Wed to get the points we needed. If you look at the table, we ALREADY had enough points to win the league that year before that game even kicked off).
However, with regards to pens, my same theory applies, yes.
Fúcking heard it all now.
A manc criticising another team about penalty decisions
Who's criticising?? If anything, I'm defending.
Read it again if you have to.
comment by PenaltySpot (U19494)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fergie time was a myth, based on another myth (i.e. we were given additional time against Sheff Wed to get the points we needed. If you look at the table, we ALREADY had enough points to win the league that year before that game even kicked off.
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It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race.
"It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race."
How many points did Villa end up with then?
comment by PenaltySpot (U19494)
posted 37 seconds ago
"It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race."
How many points did Villa end up with then?
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What does that matter? You said United had already won the league, but defeat that day would have made it 4 in a row and Villa top by two. It was a pivotal day in the title race that season.
No, I said that they had enough points. Which they did.
Point being, that period of "Fergie time" did not prevent Villa from winning the league.
OP is a total whopper
He got shredded on the Liverpool board over the weekend. Worst wum ever
"Worst wum ever"
Indeed. It's not a wum article.
And I wasn't on at the weekend.
Op...its no coincidence that the most attacking teams get penalties. Used to be utd now its us.
If you have tricky clever players like ronaldo..tevez..rooney...sterling..suarez..sturridge..coutinho then they outwit defenders and the defenders panic and stick out a leg but miss the ball and get the player.
Its that simple.
"comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 11 seconds ago
Op...its no coincidence that the most attacking teams get penalties. Used to be utd now its us.
If you have tricky clever players like ronaldo..tevez..rooney...sterling..suarez..sturridge..coutinho then they outwit defenders and the defenders panic and stick out a leg but miss the ball and get the player."
I wholeheartedly agree with that, and have been saying so for years.
However, the same doesn't seem to apply to all clubs. With City complaining about the Liverpool result, and Mourinho ruing decisions, it would seem they wouldn't agree with us.
It's not always the same at both ends, and I think there is increased pressure on the referee at big clubs.
You attack more you get more penalties, there will be a strong correlation.
Also, the more you attack the more penalties you won't get given too. Here there will also be a strong correlation.
Basically the more you attack the more penalty incidents you will be involved with.
Swansea had around 20 penalties in 2 seasons under Brendan and that statistic has carried over since the great man took over at anfield so it proves to me that his open attacking quick style brings rash desperate challenges from defenders!
"comment by sammyleesmonobrow (U3862)
posted 45 seconds ago
Swansea had around 20 penalties in 2 seasons under Brendan and that statistic has carried over since the great man took over at anfield so it proves to me that his open attacking quick style brings rash desperate challenges from defenders!"
There is possibly some truth in that, and I enjoy the style of play he fosters. But it doesn't explain why Liverpool (or anyone else) are always on the right end of the decisions.
A truly dreadful article, one of the worst I have seen this year. I can't even tell if it's meant to be a wum or not.
Perhaps the reason Liverpool are awarded penalties is that the opposition are fouling our players in the penalty area? Have a think about that one.
"I can't even tell if it's meant to be a wum or not."
It is probably you're trying to worry about that and figure it out that is your downfall.
There are some legitimate suggestions in there, which you must be free to agree with or disagree with.
On another note, I don't recall Liverpool fans having quite the same pragmatic view of penalty awards when United were winning the league. But that is a separate debate.
You are that Penalty Spot with a massive divot in it that Beckham likes falling over.
To be honest I don't see us getting the benefit of any more soft decisions compared to others. We had a dodgy one at Stoke and United but we have had stone wall appeals ignored on far more occasions at city and Chelsea, amongst others, so it is swings and roundabouts IMHO!
Lfc on the right end of decisions?? ru sure! I could name a hatful that went against us.
"comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lfc on the right end of decisions?? ru sure! I could name a hatful that went against us."
That's fine. That's what the board is for; discussion.
I wonder (in all seriousness) whether many of those were at the start of the season, and Chelsea and City were getting favourable decisions?
My point is, I am sure that the team's position in the league (or stakes of the game) somehow influence a referee's reluctance to award penalties/goals etc.
We get more penalties because we pay the referees and we also pay the FA. Logical really
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posted on 21/4/14
Do you think Fergie time was added for the same reasons then?
posted on 21/4/14
Of course it was and it applies to any team and not just pool or Utd
posted on 21/4/14
im pretty sure we have had more touches in the opposition box then other teams, could be wrong but we'd be high on the list, if you have that you have a better chance of getting a pen.
We've had a few soft ones but many of them have looked like a pen in real time, like the studge one v unitedm looked a pen all day until the slow mo replay.
posted on 21/4/14
Fergie time was a myth, based on another myth (i.e. we were given additional time against Sheff Wed to get the points we needed. If you look at the table, we ALREADY had enough points to win the league that year before that game even kicked off).
However, with regards to pens, my same theory applies, yes.
posted on 21/4/14
Fúcking heard it all now.
A manc criticising another team about penalty decisions
posted on 21/4/14
Who's criticising?? If anything, I'm defending.
Read it again if you have to.
posted on 21/4/14
comment by PenaltySpot (U19494)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fergie time was a myth, based on another myth (i.e. we were given additional time against Sheff Wed to get the points we needed. If you look at the table, we ALREADY had enough points to win the league that year before that game even kicked off.
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It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race.
posted on 21/4/14
"It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race."
How many points did Villa end up with then?
posted on 21/4/14
comment by PenaltySpot (U19494)
posted 37 seconds ago
"It put United ONE point ahead of Villa. Crucial day in the title race."
How many points did Villa end up with then?
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What does that matter? You said United had already won the league, but defeat that day would have made it 4 in a row and Villa top by two. It was a pivotal day in the title race that season.
posted on 21/4/14
No, I said that they had enough points. Which they did.
Point being, that period of "Fergie time" did not prevent Villa from winning the league.
posted on 21/4/14
OP is a total whopper
He got shredded on the Liverpool board over the weekend. Worst wum ever
posted on 21/4/14
"Worst wum ever"
Indeed. It's not a wum article.
And I wasn't on at the weekend.
posted on 21/4/14
Terrible.
posted on 21/4/14
Op...its no coincidence that the most attacking teams get penalties. Used to be utd now its us.
If you have tricky clever players like ronaldo..tevez..rooney...sterling..suarez..sturridge..coutinho then they outwit defenders and the defenders panic and stick out a leg but miss the ball and get the player.
Its that simple.
posted on 21/4/14
"comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 11 seconds ago
Op...its no coincidence that the most attacking teams get penalties. Used to be utd now its us.
If you have tricky clever players like ronaldo..tevez..rooney...sterling..suarez..sturridge..coutinho then they outwit defenders and the defenders panic and stick out a leg but miss the ball and get the player."
I wholeheartedly agree with that, and have been saying so for years.
However, the same doesn't seem to apply to all clubs. With City complaining about the Liverpool result, and Mourinho ruing decisions, it would seem they wouldn't agree with us.
It's not always the same at both ends, and I think there is increased pressure on the referee at big clubs.
posted on 21/4/14
You attack more you get more penalties, there will be a strong correlation.
Also, the more you attack the more penalties you won't get given too. Here there will also be a strong correlation.
Basically the more you attack the more penalty incidents you will be involved with.
posted on 21/4/14
Swansea had around 20 penalties in 2 seasons under Brendan and that statistic has carried over since the great man took over at anfield so it proves to me that his open attacking quick style brings rash desperate challenges from defenders!
posted on 21/4/14
"comment by sammyleesmonobrow (U3862)
posted 45 seconds ago
Swansea had around 20 penalties in 2 seasons under Brendan and that statistic has carried over since the great man took over at anfield so it proves to me that his open attacking quick style brings rash desperate challenges from defenders!"
There is possibly some truth in that, and I enjoy the style of play he fosters. But it doesn't explain why Liverpool (or anyone else) are always on the right end of the decisions.
posted on 21/4/14
A truly dreadful article, one of the worst I have seen this year. I can't even tell if it's meant to be a wum or not.
Perhaps the reason Liverpool are awarded penalties is that the opposition are fouling our players in the penalty area? Have a think about that one.
posted on 21/4/14
"I can't even tell if it's meant to be a wum or not."
It is probably you're trying to worry about that and figure it out that is your downfall.
There are some legitimate suggestions in there, which you must be free to agree with or disagree with.
On another note, I don't recall Liverpool fans having quite the same pragmatic view of penalty awards when United were winning the league. But that is a separate debate.
posted on 21/4/14
You are that Penalty Spot with a massive divot in it that Beckham likes falling over.
posted on 21/4/14
To be honest I don't see us getting the benefit of any more soft decisions compared to others. We had a dodgy one at Stoke and United but we have had stone wall appeals ignored on far more occasions at city and Chelsea, amongst others, so it is swings and roundabouts IMHO!
posted on 21/4/14
Lfc on the right end of decisions?? ru sure! I could name a hatful that went against us.
posted on 21/4/14
"comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lfc on the right end of decisions?? ru sure! I could name a hatful that went against us."
That's fine. That's what the board is for; discussion.
I wonder (in all seriousness) whether many of those were at the start of the season, and Chelsea and City were getting favourable decisions?
My point is, I am sure that the team's position in the league (or stakes of the game) somehow influence a referee's reluctance to award penalties/goals etc.
posted on 21/4/14
We get more penalties because we pay the referees and we also pay the FA. Logical really
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