I never wanted Fellaini.
Don't agree. You just underrate Suarez and overrate Ozil.
Suarez isn't as silky looking with his passes but he's certainly as creative a player. And creating isn't just about through the eye of a needle passes. Suarez can beat three man and lay it off for a tap which Ozil doesn't really do.
And then scores unbelievable goals that Ozil can't do either. He's just in a different class.
"Don't agree. You just underrate Suarez and overrate Ozil."
I'd say you're doing the same thing with Suarez actually.
Ozil is just the superior passer of the ball. And his vision is on a completely different level to Suarez's.
Ronaldo can dribble past 4 players and lay it off too. Is he more creative than Ozil?
I'm not sure how anyone can really compare Ozil and Suarez. It's chalk and cheese.
Suarez is top top class, and so is Ozil. One is direct, busy and a top class finisher, the other is a midfield maestro. Can Suarez match the midfield movement of Ozil and create chances after chances with a single pass? I'm not sure. Can Ozil run pass the defence and score from any angle in any distance? No way.
Different players, providing different attributes with different pros and cons. But to dismiss Ozil as not in Suarez's class, i think is short sighted and ridiculous.
Serial put it perfectly. Well said.
But his passing isn't a great deal superior, though I agree it's better, and Suarez is able to create as many chances as Ozil so is on his level in terms of creativity.
Yet Ozil isn't on his level in terms of match winning and scoring goals, Ozil is limited in comparison.
That's why Ozil isn't close to him as a footballer.
When analysing Ozil he argued with Gary that he doesn't see Ozil really taking the league by storm next year. Gary was right in saying he needs the right players around him. Moist's article below was good in terms of what he needs behind him but infront of him he needs 3 players getting beyond from left right and centre he thrives off fast paced attacking football and Wenger's persistence in tippy-tappy style actually hinders him.
you say that carragher is silly in saying that he doesn't see ozil taking the league by storm next year.
yet you then say gary's right that he needs certain types of players around him, players you don't have, and in all likelihood, won't be looking to buy for next season. you also state that wenger preferred (only?) style of play hinders ozil.
every single bit of that is indicative of carragher being right, and ozil not being able to take the league by storm next year, so why is he silly? or is having you state restate all these reasons why he'll be proved right what makes him silly?
19th title coming soon. (U12879)
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Now here is someone with balls of steel.
That's why Ozil isn't close to him as a footballer.
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Özil and Suarez aren't comparable with each other in my opinion; two very different players. The part of your comment that I've highlighted though, is hyperbolic to say the least.
I can agree that Suarez is a better player, but to say that Özil doesn't come close is just plain wrong. The gap quite simply isn't that big.
*If you can compare Özil and Suarez, then I can agree
comment by Redinthehead - At least we didnt finish 13th! (U1860)
posted 3 hours, 51 minutes ago
Carroll isn't our player.
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Ozil £42m
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No, you just flushed away £35M to get him and then gave him to West Ham for free, insightful bit of business there
No, you just flushed away £35M to get him and then gave him to West Ham for free
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Free?
"You don't repeat the same cr'ap maybe. But you've come out with
some joke of a comments too.
Still do so regularly. Makes it all the more amusing seeing you pick someone else for their comments.
That aside. It seems you're a bit brain dead and can't comprehend simple English. I've given Liverpool their due credit. But that doesn't mean I'll
go OTT with it like you are. They are the form team of the season. But you're acting like you
always knew they were going to be this good."
If we went through a list of "joke comments" of shocking ignorance, you'd certainly be in a class of your own. And yeah, as I said, when I'm proved wrong, I don't persist in repeating the same twaddle you do. You've given Liverpool little dues other than backhanded compliments and snide digs - just like you reserve for players like Bale and Sturridge and even Suarez when they make you look silly.
And no, I didn't know Liverpool would be THIS GOOD - not even Brendan Rodgers or Suarez would have thought so. But unlike you, I never belittled Liverpool as not being our "rivals" earlier in the season - as if Arsenal are Bayern or Madrid.
"If we went through a list of "joke comments" of shocking ignorance, you'd certainly be in a class of your own"
You're just going in a roundabout. I may not denying having made ridiculous comments. But then again I don't obsessively go around reminding people of things they've said in the past.
Don't kid yourself. You'd be in that supposed class I'm in yourself.
"You've given Liverpool little dues other than backhanded compliments and snide digs"
How so? What I've said it's perfectly acceptable and valid.
"just like you reserve for players like Bale and Sturridge and even Suarez when they make you look silly."
Yeah. We should all rush and heap praises on nobodies such as Ashley Young and the Townsends of these worlds.
"And no, I didn't know Liverpool would be THIS GOOD - not even Brendan Rodgers or Suarez would have thought so. But unlike you, I never belittled Liverpool as not being our "rivals" earlier in the season - as if Arsenal are Bayern or Madrid."
You haven't no. But you've been silly enough to act like Man U were in similar class as Bayern and Madrid.
As for comparing Suarez and Ozil, Suarez has operating at the level of Ronaldo and Messi this season. His form has been incredible. 30 goals in 31 games (without penalties) and leading the assist charts and being a general pain in the ar.se for the opposition. He's currently operating at the level of an all-time great. Ozil has struggled and underwhelmed in the same period of time. So currently, they not in the same class.
"You're just going in a
roundabout. I may not denying having made ridiculous comments. But then again I don't obsessively go around reminding people of things they've said in
the past.
Don't kid yourself. You'd be in that supposed class I'm in yourself."
No, bro. Not at all in that same class. If I were on PC at the mo, we could go through a long, long list. Maybe you should take your advice and not kid yourself
I'm not your bro. But this confirms it. You are brain dead.
I haven't denied making ridiculous comments. How can I be kidding myself then?
I just find it amusing, how you've made it a point, picking me up on it when you consistently make a laughable comments yourself.
Oh and most definitely you're in that class.
And calling people "brain dead" really doesn't make you appear clever, "bro". Makes you appear a child throwing a strop. And no, "bro". You most definitely are in that class of your own of being a clueless caant.
You're brain dead for not comprehending simple posts.
You keep repeating the same point about me not giving Liverpool credit when in fact I have.
Then you failed to understand the hilarity of a guy picking someone up for making ridiculous when in fact you do the same on a regular basis and get laughed out of threads over and over again.
Continue riding on that high horse of yours though.
"You're brain dead for not
comprehending simple posts. You keep repeating the same point about me not giving Liverpool credit when in fact I
have."
You seem incapable of comprehending your own posts. And I haven't said you failed to give credit. I specifically referred to your snide digs and backhanded compliments which lack any TRUE respect or sincerity for Liverpool's accomplishments. So much for your comprehension.
*Little credit
My bad.
Snide digs. Why? Cause I won't conform to your OTT judgement on them e.g. "All their players being great."
'Snide digs' is what you have at the team you claim to support.
Oh so you can also judge the sincerity and intentions behind my posts as well now?
Get over yourself.
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posted on 29/4/14
I never wanted Fellaini.
Don't agree. You just underrate Suarez and overrate Ozil.
Suarez isn't as silky looking with his passes but he's certainly as creative a player. And creating isn't just about through the eye of a needle passes. Suarez can beat three man and lay it off for a tap which Ozil doesn't really do.
And then scores unbelievable goals that Ozil can't do either. He's just in a different class.
posted on 29/4/14
"Don't agree. You just underrate Suarez and overrate Ozil."
I'd say you're doing the same thing with Suarez actually.
Ozil is just the superior passer of the ball. And his vision is on a completely different level to Suarez's.
Ronaldo can dribble past 4 players and lay it off too. Is he more creative than Ozil?
posted on 29/4/14
I'm not sure how anyone can really compare Ozil and Suarez. It's chalk and cheese.
Suarez is top top class, and so is Ozil. One is direct, busy and a top class finisher, the other is a midfield maestro. Can Suarez match the midfield movement of Ozil and create chances after chances with a single pass? I'm not sure. Can Ozil run pass the defence and score from any angle in any distance? No way.
Different players, providing different attributes with different pros and cons. But to dismiss Ozil as not in Suarez's class, i think is short sighted and ridiculous.
posted on 29/4/14
Serial put it perfectly. Well said.
posted on 29/4/14
But his passing isn't a great deal superior, though I agree it's better, and Suarez is able to create as many chances as Ozil so is on his level in terms of creativity.
Yet Ozil isn't on his level in terms of match winning and scoring goals, Ozil is limited in comparison.
That's why Ozil isn't close to him as a footballer.
posted on 29/4/14
When analysing Ozil he argued with Gary that he doesn't see Ozil really taking the league by storm next year. Gary was right in saying he needs the right players around him. Moist's article below was good in terms of what he needs behind him but infront of him he needs 3 players getting beyond from left right and centre he thrives off fast paced attacking football and Wenger's persistence in tippy-tappy style actually hinders him.
you say that carragher is silly in saying that he doesn't see ozil taking the league by storm next year.
yet you then say gary's right that he needs certain types of players around him, players you don't have, and in all likelihood, won't be looking to buy for next season. you also state that wenger preferred (only?) style of play hinders ozil.
every single bit of that is indicative of carragher being right, and ozil not being able to take the league by storm next year, so why is he silly? or is having you state restate all these reasons why he'll be proved right what makes him silly?
posted on 29/4/14
19th title coming soon. (U12879)
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Now here is someone with balls of steel.
posted on 29/4/14
That's why Ozil isn't close to him as a footballer.
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Özil and Suarez aren't comparable with each other in my opinion; two very different players. The part of your comment that I've highlighted though, is hyperbolic to say the least.
I can agree that Suarez is a better player, but to say that Özil doesn't come close is just plain wrong. The gap quite simply isn't that big.
posted on 29/4/14
*If you can compare Özil and Suarez, then I can agree
posted on 29/4/14
comment by Redinthehead - At least we didnt finish 13th! (U1860)
posted 3 hours, 51 minutes ago
Carroll isn't our player.
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Ozil £42m
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No, you just flushed away £35M to get him and then gave him to West Ham for free, insightful bit of business there
posted on 29/4/14
No, you just flushed away £35M to get him and then gave him to West Ham for free
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Free?
posted on 29/4/14
"You don't repeat the same cr'ap maybe. But you've come out with
some joke of a comments too.
Still do so regularly. Makes it all the more amusing seeing you pick someone else for their comments.
That aside. It seems you're a bit brain dead and can't comprehend simple English. I've given Liverpool their due credit. But that doesn't mean I'll
go OTT with it like you are. They are the form team of the season. But you're acting like you
always knew they were going to be this good."
If we went through a list of "joke comments" of shocking ignorance, you'd certainly be in a class of your own. And yeah, as I said, when I'm proved wrong, I don't persist in repeating the same twaddle you do. You've given Liverpool little dues other than backhanded compliments and snide digs - just like you reserve for players like Bale and Sturridge and even Suarez when they make you look silly.
And no, I didn't know Liverpool would be THIS GOOD - not even Brendan Rodgers or Suarez would have thought so. But unlike you, I never belittled Liverpool as not being our "rivals" earlier in the season - as if Arsenal are Bayern or Madrid.
posted on 29/4/14
"If we went through a list of "joke comments" of shocking ignorance, you'd certainly be in a class of your own"
You're just going in a roundabout. I may not denying having made ridiculous comments. But then again I don't obsessively go around reminding people of things they've said in the past.
Don't kid yourself. You'd be in that supposed class I'm in yourself.
"You've given Liverpool little dues other than backhanded compliments and snide digs"
How so? What I've said it's perfectly acceptable and valid.
"just like you reserve for players like Bale and Sturridge and even Suarez when they make you look silly."
Yeah. We should all rush and heap praises on nobodies such as Ashley Young and the Townsends of these worlds.
"And no, I didn't know Liverpool would be THIS GOOD - not even Brendan Rodgers or Suarez would have thought so. But unlike you, I never belittled Liverpool as not being our "rivals" earlier in the season - as if Arsenal are Bayern or Madrid."
You haven't no. But you've been silly enough to act like Man U were in similar class as Bayern and Madrid.
posted on 29/4/14
As for comparing Suarez and Ozil, Suarez has operating at the level of Ronaldo and Messi this season. His form has been incredible. 30 goals in 31 games (without penalties) and leading the assist charts and being a general pain in the ar.se for the opposition. He's currently operating at the level of an all-time great. Ozil has struggled and underwhelmed in the same period of time. So currently, they not in the same class.
posted on 29/4/14
"You're just going in a
roundabout. I may not denying having made ridiculous comments. But then again I don't obsessively go around reminding people of things they've said in
the past.
Don't kid yourself. You'd be in that supposed class I'm in yourself."
No, bro. Not at all in that same class. If I were on PC at the mo, we could go through a long, long list. Maybe you should take your advice and not kid yourself
posted on 29/4/14
I'm not your bro. But this confirms it. You are brain dead.
I haven't denied making ridiculous comments. How can I be kidding myself then?
I just find it amusing, how you've made it a point, picking me up on it when you consistently make a laughable comments yourself.
Oh and most definitely you're in that class.
posted on 29/4/14
And calling people "brain dead" really doesn't make you appear clever, "bro". Makes you appear a child throwing a strop. And no, "bro". You most definitely are in that class of your own of being a clueless caant.
posted on 29/4/14
You're brain dead for not comprehending simple posts.
You keep repeating the same point about me not giving Liverpool credit when in fact I have.
Then you failed to understand the hilarity of a guy picking someone up for making ridiculous when in fact you do the same on a regular basis and get laughed out of threads over and over again.
Continue riding on that high horse of yours though.
posted on 29/4/14
"You're brain dead for not
comprehending simple posts. You keep repeating the same point about me not giving Liverpool credit when in fact I
have."
You seem incapable of comprehending your own posts. And I haven't said you failed to give credit. I specifically referred to your snide digs and backhanded compliments which lack any TRUE respect or sincerity for Liverpool's accomplishments. So much for your comprehension.
posted on 29/4/14
*Little credit
My bad.
Snide digs. Why? Cause I won't conform to your OTT judgement on them e.g. "All their players being great."
'Snide digs' is what you have at the team you claim to support.
Oh so you can also judge the sincerity and intentions behind my posts as well now?
Get over yourself.
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