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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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I had a colleague who worked in the same office as me 45 years old who died just before xmas.
No known underlying health conditions and in decent shape.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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We still don't even have a clue of the long term effects the virus has. There's been reports of people never regaining their sense of smell or taste, organ failure and people's fingers & toes rotting off. Do we really think we have a vaccine that's going to work?
Also is any logical human being going to trust our governments with a vaccine after the way they have all handled this whole pandemic?
As selfish as it might sound, I rather take my chances myself and see how everything plays out.
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What on earth do the government have to do with this?! The government didn't develop the vaccine, exceptionally talented and intelligent individuals at the Jenner Institute (alongside other similar departments) developed it and had been working towards creating a vaccine for an unspecified coronavirus for many years.
Yes the governments handling of the pandemic has been pizz-poor but what that has to do with the efficacy of the vaccine or indeed potential side affects or benefits is a total mystery to me. All they're doing is paying the bill and distributing.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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As I understand it the new variant has a single mutation to the protein spike that makes it more transmissible. But the Oxford vaccine is produced using the spikes so they believe it'll either still protect or can be adjusted very easily.
The more spike mutation there are the more difficult it gets and I think the South African one has 3 mutations. Not sure if that's been proven yet though.
You bloody South Africans just have to go one step further, don’t you?
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Do you have any evidence of that? I dont know a single person who has had both and haven't seen one thing in the media about it either....
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No I don't have any evidence, it is just a prediction.
Although if the case is this new strain doesn't effect previously infected people, then I guess there are no qualms to me getting the vaccine providing the people that need the vaccine get it. As I have said, I will get vaccinated if absolutely necessary, but if not then why bother.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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No it's because 85% of the country has never had COVID be it the original strain or this new strain and this new strain is more transmissible and it's winter which favours viruses. Don't go spreading rubbish please. No doubt we have had a few reinfections, but it is not a big thing at the moment and definitely no evidence the new strain can completely evade the immune response.
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It's not really rubbish because that's the point of a mutation of a virus. If it can't infect the people who have built up immunity through their immune systems for the virus, then it mutates so that it can.
I'm not saying for certain people have been reinfected because I can't say that with any sort of accuracy but I'd probably predict that people have been infected with this new strain of the virus, particularly down South.
I never said it was a big thing or that it could evade an immune response either.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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You would think so but then there are people who can't have it for medical reasons, there will need to be exemptions in place somehow.
Yes that will happen in time, but the reason we are in lockdown now is because there is still a massive amount of the population that has never had COVID before, not because of loads of reinfections. At the moment there is no evidence our new strain will escape vaccines or the immune response of a recovered person.
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Oh yes that much is true as well about not just being reinfections but because there are two strains, I wasn't trying to say it was solely potential reinfections that has caused it, apologies if it read that way.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Is that the case? Only 5% of the population have been infected in total so far, is there any actual report of this new strain infecting previously infected people?
Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
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Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
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Surely we'd have seen reported instances by now?
TRANNY TALK!!!!!!!
Liverpool are one of five clubs -- including Real Madrid -- who have been in contact with David Alaba's agent over a potential deal for the Bayern Munich star, according to The Guardian.
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TRANNY TALK!!!!!!!
Liverpool are one of five clubs -- including Real Madrid -- who have been in contact with David Alaba's agent over a potential deal for the Bayern Munich star, according to The Guardian.
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Says Alba agent
Would be a great signing if we pulled it off given he can play LB, CB and DM.
Can't see it though as he supposedly wants £300k+
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Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
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Surely we'd have seen reported instances by now?
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Quite possibly, depends how much time is spent detecting who has which strain though or who has had previous positive tests.
I wouldn't know and it might not even be the case, just an assumption that it may have happened already.
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I read that earlier and didn't bother responding, what a clown. Being worse than GB is a stretch though.
I did come to a similar theory last week and everyone laughed at me. Mane proved that wrong in Southampton game.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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I had a colleague who worked in the same office as me 45 years old who died just before xmas.
No known underlying health conditions and in decent shape.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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comment by *Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 4 hours, 37 minutes ago
We still don't even have a clue of the long term effects the virus has. There's been reports of people never regaining their sense of smell or taste, organ failure and people's fingers & toes rotting off. Do we really think we have a vaccine that's going to work?
Also is any logical human being going to trust our governments with a vaccine after the way they have all handled this whole pandemic?
As selfish as it might sound, I rather take my chances myself and see how everything plays out.
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What on earth do the government have to do with this?! The government didn't develop the vaccine, exceptionally talented and intelligent individuals at the Jenner Institute (alongside other similar departments) developed it and had been working towards creating a vaccine for an unspecified coronavirus for many years.
Yes the governments handling of the pandemic has been pizz-poor but what that has to do with the efficacy of the vaccine or indeed potential side affects or benefits is a total mystery to me. All they're doing is paying the bill and distributing.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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As I understand it the new variant has a single mutation to the protein spike that makes it more transmissible. But the Oxford vaccine is produced using the spikes so they believe it'll either still protect or can be adjusted very easily.
The more spike mutation there are the more difficult it gets and I think the South African one has 3 mutations. Not sure if that's been proven yet though.
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You bloody South Africans just have to go one step further, don’t you?
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Do you have any evidence of that? I dont know a single person who has had both and haven't seen one thing in the media about it either....
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No I don't have any evidence, it is just a prediction.
Although if the case is this new strain doesn't effect previously infected people, then I guess there are no qualms to me getting the vaccine providing the people that need the vaccine get it. As I have said, I will get vaccinated if absolutely necessary, but if not then why bother.
posted on 6/1/21
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posted on 6/1/21
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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No it's because 85% of the country has never had COVID be it the original strain or this new strain and this new strain is more transmissible and it's winter which favours viruses. Don't go spreading rubbish please. No doubt we have had a few reinfections, but it is not a big thing at the moment and definitely no evidence the new strain can completely evade the immune response.
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It's not really rubbish because that's the point of a mutation of a virus. If it can't infect the people who have built up immunity through their immune systems for the virus, then it mutates so that it can.
I'm not saying for certain people have been reinfected because I can't say that with any sort of accuracy but I'd probably predict that people have been infected with this new strain of the virus, particularly down South.
I never said it was a big thing or that it could evade an immune response either.
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posted on 6/1/21
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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You would think so but then there are people who can't have it for medical reasons, there will need to be exemptions in place somehow.
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Yes that will happen in time, but the reason we are in lockdown now is because there is still a massive amount of the population that has never had COVID before, not because of loads of reinfections. At the moment there is no evidence our new strain will escape vaccines or the immune response of a recovered person.
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Oh yes that much is true as well about not just being reinfections but because there are two strains, I wasn't trying to say it was solely potential reinfections that has caused it, apologies if it read that way.
posted on 6/1/21
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posted on 6/1/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
Surely that decide not to have the jab will be restricted on what they can do? I’d be amazed if other countries will allow them into their borders.
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Most probably there will be some sort of restrictions for those who don't get the vaccine. If those factors effect me personally or effect the country, then I will have the vaccine. I just wouldn't go and willingly vaccinate myself for something that I'd be likely to survive if I got it.
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Sounds pretty flippant imo. One of my best mates who’s a few years younger than me has just come out of hospital after 8 days. Ex army, good condition. Doesn’t matter what shape you’re in, it can still wreck you.
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Yes because it will affect some people who are "young, fit and healthy" like what most flu viruses do. Just because you are young, fit and healthy doesn't guarantee you're safe from it, but the chances of being seriously ill are predictably much smaller. I'm not saying I am immune or it won't affect me badly, but if it does (which I hope it doesn't) then I will get a vaccine to help in preventing me getting a mutated strain or transmitting it to others who may suffer the same fate.
Similar principle of saying I wouldn't step foot out of my house again because I might get hit by a bus, although that is rather extreme.
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Bit late getting the vaccine after you’ve been ‘affected badly’. That’s a bit like trying a huge dose of heroin and then saying you won’t do it again if it ‘affects you badly’. I just don’t get your reasoning.
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I'm sure there are people down South currently who were infected with the original strain of Covid and have now been infected with this new, mutated, strain of Covid. Why do you think the new strain has caused another lockdown? Because it is capable of infecting people who have previously been affected.
The same reason why people go for the flu jab every 6-12 months. You won't just get it once and then that's it.
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Is that the case? Only 5% of the population have been infected in total so far, is there any actual report of this new strain infecting previously infected people?
posted on 6/1/21
Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
posted on 6/1/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
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Surely we'd have seen reported instances by now?
posted on 6/1/21
TRANNY TALK!!!!!!!
Liverpool are one of five clubs -- including Real Madrid -- who have been in contact with David Alaba's agent over a potential deal for the Bayern Munich star, according to The Guardian.
posted on 6/1/21
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 6 minutes ago
TRANNY TALK!!!!!!!
Liverpool are one of five clubs -- including Real Madrid -- who have been in contact with David Alaba's agent over a potential deal for the Bayern Munich star, according to The Guardian.
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Says Alba agent
posted on 6/1/21
Would be a great signing if we pulled it off given he can play LB, CB and DM.
Can't see it though as he supposedly wants £300k+
posted on 6/1/21
comment by Terminator2 (U3979)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 19 minutes ago
Think I have said it above in a previous comment, as far as I'm aware no, it's just a prediction based on the fact that there is a mutation.
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Surely we'd have seen reported instances by now?
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Quite possibly, depends how much time is spent detecting who has which strain though or who has had previous positive tests.
I wouldn't know and it might not even be the case, just an assumption that it may have happened already.
posted on 6/1/21
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posted on 6/1/21
I read that earlier and didn't bother responding, what a clown. Being worse than GB is a stretch though.
posted on 6/1/21
I did come to a similar theory last week and everyone laughed at me. Mane proved that wrong in Southampton game.
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