Such bad planning this season..
Im not gonna lie, if Salah has another season where he does next to nothing I would sell in the summer.
His performances are not great but his numbers are still good. I don't want him going anywhere.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
We don't have the midfield to play like City or Arsenal...even more so when Thiago is not in the team
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Arsenals midfield is Partey and Xhaka isn't it?
True...4 goals & 3 assists in 11 appearances.
Even last season from Jan onwards he still got a decent amount of assists
Still need to give Salah the ball, as much as possible, in the half spaces on the right hand side though. How we're justifying these current tactics is beyond me
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
We don't have the midfield to play like City or Arsenal...even more so when Thiago is not in the team
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Arsenals midfield is Partey and Xhaka isn't it?
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Yeah and Odegaard, who's been mad underrated this season...but Arteta's coaching and style of play would emphasize on passing through the midfield with receiving the ball in tight spaces...our midfield was built on different stuff until Thiago arrived.
I would play 442 with Salah and Nunez as the strikers which allows Salah to be closer to the goal and Elliott as the wide midfielder. Gomez and Konate on the right hand side of defence gives us the defensive stability and this allows Elliott more freedom to attack and link up with Salah and Nunez without worrying much about defending. We saw glimpse of it in the first half against Arsenal when we defended in a 442 shape with Jota and Nunez and later on with Firmino instead of Jota.
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
City players would have fouled Martinelli the moment he touched the ball. Take the yellow and move on to the second half.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
How often are we opening up defences with our pace though?
From their corners, yeah we still use that tactic quite a bit. Maybe in the bigger games but against 80% of the opposition we just camp outside their box most of the time probing for an opening
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its the norm for players like thiago matip keita ox jones tbf i expect nothing else.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Matip injured now
Out for two weeks.
He has been shiitt though so not a massive loss.
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meant to reply to this
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
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We always used to do this, but had the energy levels to get back and stop the attack, plus Fabinho who'd just take a yellow.
We don't have the energy anymore.
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
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We always used to do this, but had the energy levels to get back and stop the attack, plus Fabinho who'd just take a yellow.
We don't have the energy anymore.
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Nah. What in the space of 8 weeks?
I'll subscribe to us not being fit enough but something as flaky as energy levels I cannot buy into myself.
Hopefully we bring someone in during January and I think we will. Having that impetus, much like Diaz brought, would be no bad thing.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
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Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the stats that have been posted on here actually point to relegation numbers stat wise defensively.
I mentioned a couple of seasons back before but the difference this time is that I/we/anyone whatsoever seemingly anyone don't actually know what the issue is.
Before it was we simply needed defenders. Now? I haven't got a clue tbh. Seems to be a whole mixture of little things.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the stats that have been posted on here actually point to relegation numbers stat wise defensively.
I mentioned a couple of seasons back before but the difference this time is that I/we/anyone whatsoever seemingly anyone don't actually know what the issue is.
Before it was we simply needed defenders. Now? I haven't got a clue tbh. Seems to be a whole mixture of little things.
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Yep
Aging squad
The decline of Salah/VVD
Key players dropping off
Injuries
New players
Mane departure
Bad summer transfer window
Terrible pre season which collided with the actual season
TAA
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted about a minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But when he was out of form for overt a year we kept winning. This is defo more deeper than selling 1 player.
I think the mental side is likely causing a lot of our defensive issues.
That 2nd goal for example with Trent going over to Martinelli. To me that was 100% Trent wanting to make an impact by sprinting over and tackling him, whereby if it came off he stops the goal and gets praised. He was trying to be proactive but the obvious play would have been to just stay in the middle.
When things are going well defending is almost second nature, but when things are going bad you constantly second guess everything.
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted about a minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
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But when he was out of form for overt a year we kept winning. This is defo more deeper than selling 1 player.
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He was bad for one year out of 5.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think the mental side is likely causing a lot of our defensive issues.
That 2nd goal for example with Trent going over to Martinelli. To me that was 100% Trent wanting to make an impact by sprinting over and tackling him, whereby if it came off he stops the goal and gets praised. He was trying to be proactive but the obvious play would have been to just stay in the middle.
When things are going well defending is almost second nature, but when things are going bad you constantly second guess everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah players have been feeling the pressure
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
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I don't buy it either fwiw. Plus he's not exactly ripping it up at Bayern is he.
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
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I don't buy it either fwiw. Plus he's not exactly ripping it up at Bayern is he.
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Yep, but still 7 goals in 14 games...
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posted on 11/10/22
Such bad planning this season..
posted on 11/10/22
Im not gonna lie, if Salah has another season where he does next to nothing I would sell in the summer.
posted on 11/10/22
His performances are not great but his numbers are still good. I don't want him going anywhere.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
We don't have the midfield to play like City or Arsenal...even more so when Thiago is not in the team
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Arsenals midfield is Partey and Xhaka isn't it?
posted on 11/10/22
True...4 goals & 3 assists in 11 appearances.
Even last season from Jan onwards he still got a decent amount of assists
posted on 11/10/22
Still need to give Salah the ball, as much as possible, in the half spaces on the right hand side though. How we're justifying these current tactics is beyond me
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 8 minutes ago
We don't have the midfield to play like City or Arsenal...even more so when Thiago is not in the team
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Arsenals midfield is Partey and Xhaka isn't it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah and Odegaard, who's been mad underrated this season...but Arteta's coaching and style of play would emphasize on passing through the midfield with receiving the ball in tight spaces...our midfield was built on different stuff until Thiago arrived.
posted on 11/10/22
I would play 442 with Salah and Nunez as the strikers which allows Salah to be closer to the goal and Elliott as the wide midfielder. Gomez and Konate on the right hand side of defence gives us the defensive stability and this allows Elliott more freedom to attack and link up with Salah and Nunez without worrying much about defending. We saw glimpse of it in the first half against Arsenal when we defended in a 442 shape with Jota and Nunez and later on with Firmino instead of Jota.
posted on 11/10/22
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
posted on 11/10/22
City players would have fouled Martinelli the moment he touched the ball. Take the yellow and move on to the second half.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
How often are we opening up defences with our pace though?
From their corners, yeah we still use that tactic quite a bit. Maybe in the bigger games but against 80% of the opposition we just camp outside their box most of the time probing for an opening
----------------------------------------------------------------------
its the norm for players like thiago matip keita ox jones tbf i expect nothing else.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Matip injured now
Out for two weeks.
He has been shiitt though so not a massive loss.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
meant to reply to this
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We always used to do this, but had the energy levels to get back and stop the attack, plus Fabinho who'd just take a yellow.
We don't have the energy anymore.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Boy From The South (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We always used to do this, but had the energy levels to get back and stop the attack, plus Fabinho who'd just take a yellow.
We don't have the energy anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. What in the space of 8 weeks?
I'll subscribe to us not being fit enough but something as flaky as energy levels I cannot buy into myself.
Hopefully we bring someone in during January and I think we will. Having that impetus, much like Diaz brought, would be no bad thing.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the stats that have been posted on here actually point to relegation numbers stat wise defensively.
I mentioned a couple of seasons back before but the difference this time is that I/we/anyone whatsoever seemingly anyone don't actually know what the issue is.
Before it was we simply needed defenders. Now? I haven't got a clue tbh. Seems to be a whole mixture of little things.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted about an hour ago
Yeah fair point, I too like Odegaard.
Goals ain't really the problem for us anyway is it.
What's bugged me is just the simple things.
Take Arsenal's second goa. They worked so hard to get back into the game and have managed it (again, fair play on that really).
So we leave two defenders back from our own free kick a minute before half time up against Martinelli, Saka and Jesus (I think even Gabriel got up there before half our players).
That's just amateur football really isn't it. Who the actual fvck organised that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah I was furious, absolute schoolboy stuff.
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s the type of thing you expect from relegation sites not title challenging material. Shambolic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Some of the stats that have been posted on here actually point to relegation numbers stat wise defensively.
I mentioned a couple of seasons back before but the difference this time is that I/we/anyone whatsoever seemingly anyone don't actually know what the issue is.
Before it was we simply needed defenders. Now? I haven't got a clue tbh. Seems to be a whole mixture of little things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep
Aging squad
The decline of Salah/VVD
Key players dropping off
Injuries
New players
Mane departure
Bad summer transfer window
Terrible pre season which collided with the actual season
TAA
posted on 11/10/22
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted about a minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But when he was out of form for overt a year we kept winning. This is defo more deeper than selling 1 player.
posted on 11/10/22
I think the mental side is likely causing a lot of our defensive issues.
That 2nd goal for example with Trent going over to Martinelli. To me that was 100% Trent wanting to make an impact by sprinting over and tackling him, whereby if it came off he stops the goal and gets praised. He was trying to be proactive but the obvious play would have been to just stay in the middle.
When things are going well defending is almost second nature, but when things are going bad you constantly second guess everything.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted about a minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But when he was out of form for overt a year we kept winning. This is defo more deeper than selling 1 player.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was bad for one year out of 5.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think the mental side is likely causing a lot of our defensive issues.
That 2nd goal for example with Trent going over to Martinelli. To me that was 100% Trent wanting to make an impact by sprinting over and tackling him, whereby if it came off he stops the goal and gets praised. He was trying to be proactive but the obvious play would have been to just stay in the middle.
When things are going well defending is almost second nature, but when things are going bad you constantly second guess everything.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah players have been feeling the pressure
posted on 11/10/22
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't buy it either fwiw. Plus he's not exactly ripping it up at Bayern is he.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by 1manontherun (U4291)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - FSG OUT! - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted less than a minute ago
I'm still not buying this Paul Merson excuse that losing Mane is costing us.
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Its obvious that its a factor, but the cracks are far deeper than that IMO.
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I don't buy it either fwiw. Plus he's not exactly ripping it up at Bayern is he.
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Yep, but still 7 goals in 14 games...
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