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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 7 minutes ago
Austria flucked up in quali, qualified 6th, finished 2nd gained points

Silverstone, flucked up in qualif, qualified 6th, won the race

Canada, both cars had problems, he was in the dirty air, so his problems were terminal, not his fault

Monaco, team mate caused a crash preventing him from qualifying on pole, finished 2nd

So in summary, you are talking rubbish, again
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austria flucked up in qual -- could have won the race if he had pole -
-------- silverstone --- still flucked up

------- canada -- rosberg had same problem and still finished the race -

monaco -- just plain poor , was never quick enough to beat rosberg anyway -
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Amazed you posted that, its a really stupid post.

You said he fluckd up and it cost him points and then include Silverstone in it.

You are a simpleton
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Rosberg was maintaining the gap at Silverstone until his gearbox had trouble.
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Really? Did you watch the race?

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Captain Ron Codpiece (U19217)
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 7 minutes ago
Austria flucked up in quali, qualified 6th, finished 2nd gained points

Silverstone, flucked up in qualif, qualified 6th, won the race

Canada, both cars had problems, he was in the dirty air, so his problems were terminal, not his fault

Monaco, team mate caused a crash preventing him from qualifying on pole, finished 2nd

So in summary, you are talking rubbish, again
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austria flucked up in qual -- could have won the race if he had pole -
-------- silverstone --- still flucked up

------- canada -- rosberg had same problem and still finished the race -

monaco -- just plain poor , was never quick enough to beat rosberg anyway -
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Amazed you posted that, its a really stupid post.

You said he fluckd up and it cost him points and then include Silverstone in it.

You are a simpleton
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Rosberg was maintaining the gap at Silverstone until his gearbox had trouble.
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Really? Did you watch the race?
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Yes i did, and until the radio call complaining about a dodgy gearbox, the gap was around 5 seconds, after the radio message, the gap started falling, slowly at first, then massively when the gearbox properly packed up

Martial, I would prefer we did not ruin this race thread. I would ask that you refrain from posting ill thought out statements bereft of facts and logic as they are just a waste of time as debunking them is too easy.

All the posters on this thread are looking forward to an exciting race. If you want to post your usual bile directed at Hamilton, do it somewhere else.

Many thanks

comment by Captain Ron Codpiece (U19217)
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Captain Ron Codpiece (U19217)
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 7 minutes ago
Austria flucked up in quali, qualified 6th, finished 2nd gained points

Silverstone, flucked up in qualif, qualified 6th, won the race

Canada, both cars had problems, he was in the dirty air, so his problems were terminal, not his fault

Monaco, team mate caused a crash preventing him from qualifying on pole, finished 2nd

So in summary, you are talking rubbish, again
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austria flucked up in qual -- could have won the race if he had pole -
-------- silverstone --- still flucked up

------- canada -- rosberg had same problem and still finished the race -

monaco -- just plain poor , was never quick enough to beat rosberg anyway -
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Amazed you posted that, its a really stupid post.

You said he fluckd up and it cost him points and then include Silverstone in it.

You are a simpleton
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Rosberg was maintaining the gap at Silverstone until his gearbox had trouble.
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Really? Did you watch the race?
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Yes i did, and until the radio call complaining about a dodgy gearbox, the gap was around 5 seconds, after the radio message, the gap started falling, slowly at first, then massively when the gearbox properly packed up
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Not true my good man, even on the medium tyres he was catching him, when they tyres changed he was catching him a second a lap until he had the gearbox problem and he closed down 2 secs per lap.

Rosberg was not maintaining any gap

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Says the person who blundered into a debate posting rubbish?

Martial, what is wrong with you?
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yeh --- what is wrong with you manx -- you go into hyperventilation mode whenever somebody dares to suggest that lewis does not save the world every time he drives

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Nothing's wrong with me my good man, just amazed how you continue to post absolute nonsense over and over again and think you are making sense.

I am laughing at you as are all the people reading this thread.

I asked you to back up what you said and asked to provide facts and you posted twaddle. You really are a clown
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see you have now gone into insulting mode as well as hypoventilation mode -
---- all because i dared to suggest tongue in cheek that hamilton might be a little hard on his car to somebody that suggested that a brake failure means drive A is better than driver B

MA, I didn't say what you could and couldn't say now did I?
I just pointed out that that is how the animosity on here starts, and suggested that what you said wasn't really necessary didn't I? Sorry if that offended you.

Your response to me was EXACTLY what I thought it would be. You are VERY predictable.

Back to topic....
I think with the lack of FRIC it may be a bit more difficult for Hamilton to get close to the front as quickly, but at the same time, maybe the Williams' may get a start on Rosberg.

All in all I hope it will be an exciting and safe race.

Martial, I am not upset, like I've told you on many occasions, I do not take you seriously.

I will not ask you again to stop ruining the thread

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 7 minutes ago
Austria flucked up in quali, qualified 6th, finished 2nd gained points

Silverstone, flucked up in qualif, qualified 6th, won the race

Canada, both cars had problems, he was in the dirty air, so his problems were terminal, not his fault

Monaco, team mate caused a crash preventing him from qualifying on pole, finished 2nd

So in summary, you are talking rubbish, again
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austria flucked up in qual -- could have won the race if he had pole -
-------- silverstone --- still flucked up

------- canada -- rosberg had same problem and still finished the race -

monaco -- just plain poor , was never quick enough to beat rosberg anyway -
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Amazed you posted that, its a really stupid post.

You said he fluckd up and it cost him points and then include Silverstone in it.

You are a simpleton
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even more insults manx -

lets not forget i also said monaco , austria , canada as well manx

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 16 seconds ago
Martial, I am not upset, like I've told you on many occasions, I do not take you seriously.

I will not ask you again to stop ruining the thread
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dont blame me manx --- this all started because i dared to say tongue in cheek that hamilton may be harder on his car -
---------- notice the words tongue in cheek -

Monaco, he was not able to set pole because his team mate crashed. He was up. It is nigh on impossible to overtake there

Austria after poor quali he gained points, did not lose them.

Canada, they car had a fault that was terminal

The examples you gave are not examples of him losing points through his own errors in the race which you said.

Points are not awarded in quali

You keep trying to make out that your comment annoyed people, it didn't. I asked you to explain it and you waffled all over the place and then posted some really laughable comments

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 3 minutes ago
MA, I didn't say what you could and couldn't say now did I?
I just pointed out that that is how the animosity on here starts, and suggested that what you said wasn't really necessary didn't I? Sorry if that offended you.

Your response to me was EXACTLY what I thought it would be. You are VERY predictable.

Back to topic....
I think with the lack of FRIC it may be a bit more difficult for Hamilton to get close to the front as quickly, but at the same time, maybe the Williams' may get a start on Rosberg.

All in all I hope it will be an exciting and safe race.

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well dont bother in the first place if i am not talking to you and this kind of rubbish will be avoided -
------------ simples

Always trying to provoke people, aren't you martial. Hopefully that's your last attempt at doing it. I can guarantee it will be if you continue to do so

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 seconds ago
Always trying to provoke people, aren't you martial. Hopefully that's your last attempt at doing it. I can guarantee it will be if you continue to do so
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manx --- dont blame me blame go cell for talking down to me in the first place --
you now how it works with me , people talk down to me i give it to them back -

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 9 minutes ago
Monaco, he was not able to set pole because his team mate crashed. He was up. It is nigh on impossible to overtake there

Austria after poor quali he gained points, did not lose them.

Canada, they car had a fault that was terminal

The examples you gave are not examples of him losing points through his own errors in the race which you said.

Points are not awarded in quali
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but qual results equate to race results and hamilton has been poor in several of them -
still think he was overly hard on his car at canada as rosberg made his car last with the same problem -

--------- as for monaco --- a buzzy thing flew into his helmet and made him drive slow ------ yeh ok -

Quali results do not equate to race results martial, except at Monaco.

Rosberg stopped quali in Monaco and Hamilton actually had something in his eye, was seen when he was interviewed and by the doctor.

He was not hard on his car in Canada, he was in the dirty air and both cars had problems, Rosberg did not suffer as much as he was in the dirty air.

We are going round in circles here, you have not provided a smidgeon of evidence to indicate how Hamilton threw points away in a race.

You cannot just post false statements and expect to get away with it.

Sorry

clean air

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
Quali results do not equate to race results martial, except at Monaco.

Rosberg stopped quali in Monaco and Hamilton actually had something in his eye, was seen when he was interviewed and by the doctor.

He was not hard on his car in Canada, he was in the dirty air and both cars had problems, Rosberg did not suffer as much as he was in the dirty air.

We are going round in circles here, you have not provided a smidgeon of evidence to indicate how Hamilton threw points away in a race.

You cannot just post false statements and expect to get away with it.

Sorry
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hamilton had something in his eye at monaco , the same as in 2011 he could not see his side view mirrors
---------- yeh ok -

how does dirty air effect the brakes --- you are now just making things up manx -

its amazing --- nothing is ever hamiltons fault

If you do not know how being in dirty air affects the operation of an F1 car, there's really no point in debating with you.

He had something in his eye in Monaco, started second finished second, lost no points. You are now going back to 2011 because you have not been able to make a truthful argument.

I have not said Hamilton is faultless, I said your examples are rubbish because he actually gained points not lost them.

As you have been unable to provide any evidence, you now start the age old, try to deflect from the erroneous post you made.

So predictable and boring

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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
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in all seriousness manx it would not surprise me if the williams do lewis a big favour , not quite sure what to make of rosberg , i have a funny feeling that both bottas and massa are maybe more talented than him -

would not surprise me in the least if bottas wins tomorrow
-------- which probably means i have put the mockers on him and he will make a dogs breakfast of it at the first corner

Lewis Hamilton looks set to start the German GP from the pitlane as Mercedes want to switch the brake supplier on his car after Saturday’s qualifying accident.

Having started the weekend using brakes supplied by Carbon Industrie, Hamilton changed to another, Brembo, on Saturday morning which subsequently failed.

Mercedes want to switch him back to the former for the race but if they do so, a change beyond repairing accident damage would likely break parc ferme conditions, meaning that he’ll have to start from the pitlane.

Team boss Toto Wolff is hoping the FIA will agree to the change for safety reasons; speaking on Saturday evening, however, Hamilton claimed: “I’m not really thinking about safety.”

“Since the first crash I ever had in my life, when I was a kid, all I cared about was whether the car was going to be fine,” he said.

“All I’m caring about now is whether the guys will put the car back together again tomorrow and I’ll do what I do best – try and drive through the field.

“I’m not thinking about the brakes. I’ll get out tomorrow and try and push just as hard as ever. On the brakes, the first time I touch them, you just get over it.”

With team-mate and title rival Nico Rosberg starting his home race on pole position, Hamilton was blunt when assessing his race prospects.

“Whenever the lights go out, I’m always thinking of finishing the race first, that’s always my target. But I’d have to be smoking something to think I could really get to Nico,” he added.

“He’s on pole position, he’s got no-one in front of him, so by the third or fourth lap he’ll be several seconds up the road and as I’m starting last, I could be a good 30 or 40 seconds behind.

“I’ve now got to do damage limitation again, which I seem to be doing quite often.

“I don’t know where I’m starting – if I’m starting 16th or starting in the pitlane. We’ll find out.”

Wolff said a brake failure that Rosberg suffered using Brembo earlier this year was at the forefront of Mercedes' minds in switching Hamilton back to Carbon Industrie.

"I'm not sure this is totally clarified, because Nico had a brake failure - which means we are obliged to make sure that the car is running safe tomorrow," he said. "But that would mean switching the brake supplier.

"We're discussing that with the FIA and I would even go further: obviously many teams are running that brake material and so that safety discussion needs to be extended."

No other team using Brembo brakes has reported problems in Germany, although a number besides Mercedes - including Ferrari and Red Bull - have experienced failures this year.

With the FIA set to confirm Hamilton's fate on Sunday morning, Wolff also said he was unsure whether the gearbox on his W05 would need replacing - which itself incurs a five-place penalty - after the high-speed impact.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/24181/9387752/lewis-hamilton-could-start-german-gp-from-pitlane-as-mercedes-consider-brake-change

comment by martial artist (U9033) “or maybe rosberg is just easier on the machinery ?”

Personally, I thought that MA's reply to BWFCCLEGG (U7583) was quite reasonable. MA did not make an accusation or single out the latest brake failure. MA simply posed a reasonable question regarding Lewis Hamilton's mechanical problems in this season.

It is up to others to answer his reasonable question. So what are the answers?

Australia - Lewis Hamilton retired on lap 2 with a problem that was discovered on the formation lap.

Canada – both drivers suffered MGU-K failures on the same lap but Nico Rosberg finished and Lewis Hamilton retired with a brake problem. Brembo? Or CI?

BWFCCLEGG (U7583) did imply that Lewis Hamilton was better than Nico Rosberg. But he did not support that view with anything constructive in my opinion. I actually think that Lewis Hamilton is a better driver than Nico Rosberg.

Nico Rosberg is no mug. But Lewis Hamilton is faster than him.