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Any seen this article - states exactly what Anderson thought of Jadeja - fair play to jimmy for expressing his views......
http://m.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/766457.html
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
Any seen this article - states exactly what Anderson thought of Jadeja - fair play to jimmy for expressing his views......
http://m.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/766457.html
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I know you are probably basking in this, but please give it a rest.
No England or India fans have been saying much today.
But rather you stirring the pot
Leave it, get some sleep, chill and wait for the game ,
Basking in this? Don't think anyone is neon, in every major sport you have teams playing mind games and verbals exchanged.... No need to "bask" in anything- been going on decades..... Only person that probably was basking in it was the judge, who dismissed it after hearing the evidence in just 10 minutes
Seems like only eng and their fans think what Anderson did was right. Such a good article by Michael holding
http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-article/manning-lead-confrontations/119540
Viru,
To be fair some England fans and ex players have come out and said that Anderson does need to calm down a bit.....
India embarassing themselves yet again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28658463
Teacher teacher but what do you mean he didn't do anything we want him banned and so you have to ban him after all he made poor Jadeja cry by calling him names... and despite the complete lack of evidence we insist that he hurt our feelings!!!
and the Pakistan fans are all over htis...keep it up guys
People here do realise that Anderson admitted in the invesitgation to pushing Jadeja and to saying things like "I'm going to break your f@*$&% teeth"
The issue isn't about whether or not he did it push jadeja but if it was an act of aggression or one of self defence.
Just as it wasn't ok for Anderson to be told in the Ashes that the Australians were going to break his arm, at least that was on the pitch. When both parties have admitted an incident occured there should have been reprimands on both sides, as the truth is probably somewhere in between the 2 stories. Anderson is not an innocent target all this as has been suggested, and its by sheer dumb luck with the camera not working (as well as a completely impotent and redundant governing body) that we'll be fortunate enough to see him steaming in again in the next couple of tests.
There have been way too many instances of behaviour that crosses the line on the pitch that have been attempted to be swept under the carpet, Trott choking the Pakistani player, Pollard and Starc throwing things at each other in the IPL, Harbhajan's entire career etc. All this has proved is how ineffectual the ICC is and how this mythical spirit of cricket only seems to apply to teams if they're the ones who feel slighted.
Neo,
I was going to post that article because I found it astonishing that the BCCI won't go... It's interested that an odd Indian fan on here wishes to stop this debate, yet the BCCI crash on regardless.....
Golden, spot on. That's why BCCI want it pursued further and are not happy with the outcome
Afridi the sad thing is if the ICC were in any way competent they wouldn't have had to because years ago when issues like this were starting to become prominent it'd have been nipped in the bud. Instead we've descended to an era where threatening and using physicality with opponents is becoming more and more common (Warner, Starc, Pollard, Trott).
I don't blame the Indian team for raising this issue, I think they've done the right thing highlighting the incident (This is not me saying Anderson was or wasn't provoked in his actions) but they've had players, as has every team in the world, who've been guilty of crossing the line because the ICC have failed in enforcement. Until a clear message is sent out that this behaviour is not acceptable instances like this will just become more and more commonplace.
Are India still whining about Jimmy?
We're not too fussed about Jimmy getting a rest in the West Indies anyway, mardarses.
There will be no appeal either it has been announced, that's the end of it, the Indians can stop whinging now.
comment by Neo Liverpool (U9135)
posted 29 minutes ago
There will be no appeal either it has been announced, that's the end of it, the Indians can stop whinging now.
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Far too late for setting any precedents - India have been amongst the worst offenders over the last twenty years. To hit England would have been suicidal. We would just refuse to play them again and the rest would follow.
Ponting was right about them.
Their cricket board is farcical, and that's before you even start to take into account their refusal to use DRS
Has anyone ever looked at Andersons track record??
also to add, Anderson complained to the umpires when he was getting sledged by the Aussies. The ECB dident intervene and say, be quite, let it go...but thats ok??
A little scuffle in a bar led the ECB to try to get Warner banned....oh but thats ok.
Neo - the refusal of DRS, I disagree with...HOWEVER...India is within their right to say no. You want it compulsory, go bang on the ICC;s door.
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Even Pakistan fans were angry when Trott grabbed one of the Pakistan players by the neck.
The difference is, unlike Pakistan, India did not just bow down
"We would just refuse to play them again and the rest would follow."
A thought only in your head I'm afraid. The BCCI has managed to hold its own against all boards regarding DRS (a very stubborn attitutude yes) but here you are telling us how nobody would want to play India if England refused to - laughable.
Remarkable how even Boycott has been saying that Anderson does need to tone it down at the best of times but many on here cannot see he does often overstep the line and rubs people up the wrong way. I'm all for a good sledge and fast bowlers runnimg in but even when England were on top on the fourth day he still couldn't stop his lip. Very poor attitude for me. Probably the same people defending him who were angry at Mathews and Senanayke for not playing in the spirit of the game when Buttler was run out. Seems the parameters change when your own team is concerned.
I wouldn't say Anderson often oversteps the line. He may push it very close sometimes, but 'often' is a bit of an exaggeration. He is not the only player in the world guilty of it and we risk this becoming a bit of a witch hunt.
He should be allowed to chirp all he wants, so long as what he is saying isn't offensive or threatening. As an England fan, I don't want him to lose all of his aggression on the pitch, because some people in India or other nations might not like it. He just needs to find the right balance, which is something his captain should be helping him do, by reigning him in if he begins to go too far.
In terms of the Jos Buttler incident, I think that is completely unrelated and is only being brought up to try to belittle the opinion of those who disagree with you. However, my personal opinion on that, cricket unlike sports like football and rugby, we see being played between teams with differing cultures on a regular basis. It seems that fans from the subcontinent see what happened as acceptable, part of the game and are happy to do it to win. Fans in England see it differently. Personally, I would be embarrassed if a player on my team did it this weekend and would tell them so, as I don't quite think it's in the spirit of the game.
However, I think that's what's great about the sport. Different cultures, playing each other and becoming united and divided in debates. Australia will sledge, England collapse in the middle order and harp on about the spirit of the game whilst ignoring their own antics, India get offended, Pakistan spot bet etc and we love it.
You forgot India nicking off against the swinging ball.
Oh yes, and whining about playground stuff.
Personally my only issue with sennanayake is he shouldn't have been playing as he's a chucker. I don't see how a suspect action can play until cleared.
I would "mankad" a player backing up in my league - after appropriate warnings of course.
The Anderson discussion reminds me of a good Rugby anecdote from Martin Johnsons autobiography. He discusses how the RFU all remember fondly the "99 call" in 74 and chuckle at the fights they were in then ban a player for bringing the game into ddisrepute for one swing.
All cricket fans know Thommo Lillee and Hughes swore like sailors and intimidated the batsmen - and most smile at the memories, but modern cricketers are "defiling the spirit of cricket".
I wonder how Jadeja would feel should Trueman have done his "you ain't good enough to nick em" routine on him!
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posted on 3/8/14
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posted on 3/8/14
Any seen this article - states exactly what Anderson thought of Jadeja - fair play to jimmy for expressing his views......
http://m.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/766457.html
posted on 3/8/14
comment by Afridi14 (U2805)
posted 4 hours, 45 minutes ago
Any seen this article - states exactly what Anderson thought of Jadeja - fair play to jimmy for expressing his views......
http://m.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/766457.html
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I know you are probably basking in this, but please give it a rest.
No England or India fans have been saying much today.
But rather you stirring the pot
Leave it, get some sleep, chill and wait for the game ,
posted on 4/8/14
Basking in this? Don't think anyone is neon, in every major sport you have teams playing mind games and verbals exchanged.... No need to "bask" in anything- been going on decades..... Only person that probably was basking in it was the judge, who dismissed it after hearing the evidence in just 10 minutes
posted on 4/8/14
Seems like only eng and their fans think what Anderson did was right. Such a good article by Michael holding
http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-article/manning-lead-confrontations/119540
posted on 4/8/14
posted on 4/8/14
Viru,
To be fair some England fans and ex players have come out and said that Anderson does need to calm down a bit.....
posted on 5/8/14
India embarassing themselves yet again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28658463
posted on 5/8/14
Teacher teacher but what do you mean he didn't do anything we want him banned and so you have to ban him after all he made poor Jadeja cry by calling him names... and despite the complete lack of evidence we insist that he hurt our feelings!!!
posted on 5/8/14
and the Pakistan fans are all over htis...keep it up guys
posted on 5/8/14
People here do realise that Anderson admitted in the invesitgation to pushing Jadeja and to saying things like "I'm going to break your f@*$&% teeth"
The issue isn't about whether or not he did it push jadeja but if it was an act of aggression or one of self defence.
Just as it wasn't ok for Anderson to be told in the Ashes that the Australians were going to break his arm, at least that was on the pitch. When both parties have admitted an incident occured there should have been reprimands on both sides, as the truth is probably somewhere in between the 2 stories. Anderson is not an innocent target all this as has been suggested, and its by sheer dumb luck with the camera not working (as well as a completely impotent and redundant governing body) that we'll be fortunate enough to see him steaming in again in the next couple of tests.
There have been way too many instances of behaviour that crosses the line on the pitch that have been attempted to be swept under the carpet, Trott choking the Pakistani player, Pollard and Starc throwing things at each other in the IPL, Harbhajan's entire career etc. All this has proved is how ineffectual the ICC is and how this mythical spirit of cricket only seems to apply to teams if they're the ones who feel slighted.
posted on 5/8/14
Neo,
I was going to post that article because I found it astonishing that the BCCI won't go... It's interested that an odd Indian fan on here wishes to stop this debate, yet the BCCI crash on regardless.....
Golden, spot on. That's why BCCI want it pursued further and are not happy with the outcome
posted on 5/8/14
Afridi the sad thing is if the ICC were in any way competent they wouldn't have had to because years ago when issues like this were starting to become prominent it'd have been nipped in the bud. Instead we've descended to an era where threatening and using physicality with opponents is becoming more and more common (Warner, Starc, Pollard, Trott).
I don't blame the Indian team for raising this issue, I think they've done the right thing highlighting the incident (This is not me saying Anderson was or wasn't provoked in his actions) but they've had players, as has every team in the world, who've been guilty of crossing the line because the ICC have failed in enforcement. Until a clear message is sent out that this behaviour is not acceptable instances like this will just become more and more commonplace.
posted on 5/8/14
Daffy
posted on 5/8/14
Are India still whining about Jimmy?
We're not too fussed about Jimmy getting a rest in the West Indies anyway, mardarses.
posted on 5/8/14
Daffy
posted on 6/8/14
There will be no appeal either it has been announced, that's the end of it, the Indians can stop whinging now.
posted on 6/8/14
comment by Neo Liverpool (U9135)
posted 29 minutes ago
There will be no appeal either it has been announced, that's the end of it, the Indians can stop whinging now.
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posted on 6/8/14
Far too late for setting any precedents - India have been amongst the worst offenders over the last twenty years. To hit England would have been suicidal. We would just refuse to play them again and the rest would follow.
Ponting was right about them.
posted on 6/8/14
Their cricket board is farcical, and that's before you even start to take into account their refusal to use DRS
posted on 6/8/14
Has anyone ever looked at Andersons track record??
also to add, Anderson complained to the umpires when he was getting sledged by the Aussies. The ECB dident intervene and say, be quite, let it go...but thats ok??
A little scuffle in a bar led the ECB to try to get Warner banned....oh but thats ok.
Neo - the refusal of DRS, I disagree with...HOWEVER...India is within their right to say no. You want it compulsory, go bang on the ICC;s door.
.
Even Pakistan fans were angry when Trott grabbed one of the Pakistan players by the neck.
The difference is, unlike Pakistan, India did not just bow down
posted on 6/8/14
"We would just refuse to play them again and the rest would follow."
A thought only in your head I'm afraid. The BCCI has managed to hold its own against all boards regarding DRS (a very stubborn attitutude yes) but here you are telling us how nobody would want to play India if England refused to - laughable.
Remarkable how even Boycott has been saying that Anderson does need to tone it down at the best of times but many on here cannot see he does often overstep the line and rubs people up the wrong way. I'm all for a good sledge and fast bowlers runnimg in but even when England were on top on the fourth day he still couldn't stop his lip. Very poor attitude for me. Probably the same people defending him who were angry at Mathews and Senanayke for not playing in the spirit of the game when Buttler was run out. Seems the parameters change when your own team is concerned.
posted on 6/8/14
I wouldn't say Anderson often oversteps the line. He may push it very close sometimes, but 'often' is a bit of an exaggeration. He is not the only player in the world guilty of it and we risk this becoming a bit of a witch hunt.
He should be allowed to chirp all he wants, so long as what he is saying isn't offensive or threatening. As an England fan, I don't want him to lose all of his aggression on the pitch, because some people in India or other nations might not like it. He just needs to find the right balance, which is something his captain should be helping him do, by reigning him in if he begins to go too far.
In terms of the Jos Buttler incident, I think that is completely unrelated and is only being brought up to try to belittle the opinion of those who disagree with you. However, my personal opinion on that, cricket unlike sports like football and rugby, we see being played between teams with differing cultures on a regular basis. It seems that fans from the subcontinent see what happened as acceptable, part of the game and are happy to do it to win. Fans in England see it differently. Personally, I would be embarrassed if a player on my team did it this weekend and would tell them so, as I don't quite think it's in the spirit of the game.
However, I think that's what's great about the sport. Different cultures, playing each other and becoming united and divided in debates. Australia will sledge, England collapse in the middle order and harp on about the spirit of the game whilst ignoring their own antics, India get offended, Pakistan spot bet etc and we love it.
posted on 6/8/14
You forgot India nicking off against the swinging ball.
Oh yes, and whining about playground stuff.
posted on 6/8/14
Personally my only issue with sennanayake is he shouldn't have been playing as he's a chucker. I don't see how a suspect action can play until cleared.
I would "mankad" a player backing up in my league - after appropriate warnings of course.
The Anderson discussion reminds me of a good Rugby anecdote from Martin Johnsons autobiography. He discusses how the RFU all remember fondly the "99 call" in 74 and chuckle at the fights they were in then ban a player for bringing the game into ddisrepute for one swing.
All cricket fans know Thommo Lillee and Hughes swore like sailors and intimidated the batsmen - and most smile at the memories, but modern cricketers are "defiling the spirit of cricket".
I wonder how Jadeja would feel should Trueman have done his "you ain't good enough to nick em" routine on him!
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