Mata will be great for Chelsea The Blue Kenyan, would you have Downing or Arshavin in your team? Thought not.
Ronaldo
Messi
Robben
Di Maria
Pedro
Sanchez
Nani
Young
Valencia
Bale
Lennon
Ribery
Robinho
All quick. I think a winger has to be quick. There are very very few top wingers who are slow. Mata is fast, hes no slouch
To be a winger in PL you have to be fast (even if you have the skills).
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As for those undermining Young, why?
Like I said, statistically, hes been the best winger in the Prem in the last 5 years, he's also now England AND UNited's first chocie left winger, he's not exactly old himself and will improve at United no end, hes already put in a MOTM performance in his first competitive game etc.
Mata will probably be great, but unless he gets you over 20 assists/goals a season for a few seasons running, I dont think you can say hes better than young and on par with Nani
Kenyan, tell brummie to off, he can never be me. happy with sailing
Mata is fast, hes no slouch
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No he's not. I see him a a lighter+more skillful silva.
All quick. I think a winger has to be quick. There are very very few top wingers who are slow. Mata is fast, hes no slouch
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For starters many of the players in that list arent 'wingers'. Im thinking Messi, Robinho, Pedro and arguably Ronaldo/
Secondly, Mata is more of an insdie forward than a winger. For me, a winger is someone who gets chalk on their boots (but doesnt have to necessarily stay there) who crosses a lot. With that in mind, hardly any of the players in that list are what Id call wingers.
Mata is more like SIlva/Nasri/Arshavin etc.
Are you saying "No hes not" to me saying "Mata is fast" or to me saying "hes no slouch" ????
No, but they're both decent PL wingers.
Benzerguero, I'll ask again do you really think Young would get anywhere near the Spain squad? He really isn't. Statistically Anelka was our highest goalscorer last season but he's still cack. Young would get alot of assists when taking the majority of free kicks and corners for a side that relies on set pieces. Ask Amy neutral, they will say Mata is better than Young, and although I'm no neutral I'm still no exception. And chances are if this question was asked to you a year ago you'd say you'd prefer Mata at United. I'm not saying Youngs a bad player but Mata is the netter player
Well Mata isnt exactly a regular in the SPain team is he? Considering Jesus Navas can get in the Spain XI quite regualrly jsut for being an out and out winger, I reckon Young would have a fair ish chance yes.
Like I said, now that hes at UNited, everything he does will become that bit more highlighted and I can gurantee he will be starting for England at the Euros whereas Mata will be warming Spain's bench (okay, SPain are much better than England but what the hell)
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Beckham was fast but not very fast but he didn't need to. If Mata could run unto a ball a deliver wonderful balls day in day out then I don't see why he'd need to be fast... Sure he wont be able to do the former.
Anyway, since when did a winger HAVE to be fast to be successful in the Prem?!
Mata can dribble as good as anyone, he has very good spacial awareness, is intelligant, has an eye for goal etc. Just because he isnt lightning quick, doesnt mean hes desitined to flop
Look how fast Walcott is, where has that got him?
Yes I pointed that out but I think many people would find it hard to get into one of the best sided in the world. Jesus Navas is an excellent winger who I also think is better than Young. A more appropriate comparison would be Pablo Hernandez who despite being a regular for Valencia, and being one of the better wingers in La Liga rarely gets into the Spain side. And let's be honest that won't be very hard. Who will his competition be other than Johnson? Not many young wingers coming through right now. Sinclair isn't that good, can only think of Albrighton.
Still....the fact A.Young has worked his way into becoming United's frist choice left winger shows how talented he is.
Saying he wouldnt get into SPain's squad is pointless as he's english. He could be Messi and Ronaldo rolled into one and he still wouldnt get near Spain's squad...because hes not bloody spanish.
All I know is Mata will be Chelsea's first choice left winger, and Young will be United's first chocie elft winger. In that respect, they cant be all that different in ability
Benzeguero,
Valencia plays on left and he is injured right now
Nani can play on either wing
Park yet to play so I don't know how come A Young worked his way into becoming first choice
though I rate him highly
Valencia plays on left and he is injured right now
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Anything that came after that, clearly has no credibility
I see what you're saying. Fergie likes rotation so will be interesting to see which out of your 3 main wingers ends up with the most starts. Just trying to get some perspective Espiecally when you see players like Mikel Arteta nowhere near the Spain Squad. Nice to have a good debate..I'm off
okie right got confused with Ashley Cole' spanking by him
but he is injured
When has Valencia played on the left?
tbh, it all comes down to how well they perform on the pitch throughout the season. Bigger names and supposedly better players have come to the Prem and flopped.
Mata based on his performances in La Liga is a very very good player with huge potential. He could come here and adapt like Silva has and continue his progress, or he could come here and struggle like Veron did for us.
Look how fast Walcott is, where has that got him?
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To say he is 4 years younger than Young and he has more international caps. I think he has got further than Young.
last season he got 13 goals and 8 assist, so not really...
Im sorry but how can anyone say Walcott has been a success?
I swear he hasnt developed at all since moving to Arsenal and the guy is yet to even hold down a first team place!
Okay hes young but seriously, if he wasnt lightening qiick, hes be playing for Balckburn
HAHAHA well that shows how much knowledge you have. You are clearly deluded.
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posted on 22/8/11
Mata will be great for Chelsea The Blue Kenyan, would you have Downing or Arshavin in your team? Thought not.
Ronaldo
Messi
Robben
Di Maria
Pedro
Sanchez
Nani
Young
Valencia
Bale
Lennon
Ribery
Robinho
All quick. I think a winger has to be quick. There are very very few top wingers who are slow. Mata is fast, hes no slouch
posted on 22/8/11
To be a winger in PL you have to be fast (even if you have the skills).
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Beckham
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As for those undermining Young, why?
Like I said, statistically, hes been the best winger in the Prem in the last 5 years, he's also now England AND UNited's first chocie left winger, he's not exactly old himself and will improve at United no end, hes already put in a MOTM performance in his first competitive game etc.
Mata will probably be great, but unless he gets you over 20 assists/goals a season for a few seasons running, I dont think you can say hes better than young and on par with Nani
posted on 22/8/11
Kenyan, tell brummie to off, he can never be me. happy with sailing
posted on 22/8/11
Mata is fast, hes no slouch
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No he's not. I see him a a lighter+more skillful silva.
posted on 22/8/11
All quick. I think a winger has to be quick. There are very very few top wingers who are slow. Mata is fast, hes no slouch
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For starters many of the players in that list arent 'wingers'. Im thinking Messi, Robinho, Pedro and arguably Ronaldo/
Secondly, Mata is more of an insdie forward than a winger. For me, a winger is someone who gets chalk on their boots (but doesnt have to necessarily stay there) who crosses a lot. With that in mind, hardly any of the players in that list are what Id call wingers.
Mata is more like SIlva/Nasri/Arshavin etc.
posted on 22/8/11
Are you saying "No hes not" to me saying "Mata is fast" or to me saying "hes no slouch" ????
posted on 22/8/11
No, but they're both decent PL wingers.
Benzerguero, I'll ask again do you really think Young would get anywhere near the Spain squad? He really isn't. Statistically Anelka was our highest goalscorer last season but he's still cack. Young would get alot of assists when taking the majority of free kicks and corners for a side that relies on set pieces. Ask Amy neutral, they will say Mata is better than Young, and although I'm no neutral I'm still no exception. And chances are if this question was asked to you a year ago you'd say you'd prefer Mata at United. I'm not saying Youngs a bad player but Mata is the netter player
posted on 22/8/11
*He really WOULDNT
posted on 22/8/11
Well Mata isnt exactly a regular in the SPain team is he? Considering Jesus Navas can get in the Spain XI quite regualrly jsut for being an out and out winger, I reckon Young would have a fair ish chance yes.
Like I said, now that hes at UNited, everything he does will become that bit more highlighted and I can gurantee he will be starting for England at the Euros whereas Mata will be warming Spain's bench (okay, SPain are much better than England but what the hell)
posted on 22/8/11
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Beckham was fast but not very fast but he didn't need to. If Mata could run unto a ball a deliver wonderful balls day in day out then I don't see why he'd need to be fast... Sure he wont be able to do the former.
posted on 22/8/11
Anyway, since when did a winger HAVE to be fast to be successful in the Prem?!
Mata can dribble as good as anyone, he has very good spacial awareness, is intelligant, has an eye for goal etc. Just because he isnt lightning quick, doesnt mean hes desitined to flop
Look how fast Walcott is, where has that got him?
posted on 22/8/11
Yes I pointed that out but I think many people would find it hard to get into one of the best sided in the world. Jesus Navas is an excellent winger who I also think is better than Young. A more appropriate comparison would be Pablo Hernandez who despite being a regular for Valencia, and being one of the better wingers in La Liga rarely gets into the Spain side. And let's be honest that won't be very hard. Who will his competition be other than Johnson? Not many young wingers coming through right now. Sinclair isn't that good, can only think of Albrighton.
posted on 22/8/11
Still....the fact A.Young has worked his way into becoming United's frist choice left winger shows how talented he is.
Saying he wouldnt get into SPain's squad is pointless as he's english. He could be Messi and Ronaldo rolled into one and he still wouldnt get near Spain's squad...because hes not bloody spanish.
All I know is Mata will be Chelsea's first choice left winger, and Young will be United's first chocie elft winger. In that respect, they cant be all that different in ability
posted on 22/8/11
Benzeguero,
Valencia plays on left and he is injured right now
Nani can play on either wing
Park yet to play so I don't know how come A Young worked his way into becoming first choice
though I rate him highly
posted on 22/8/11
Valencia plays on left and he is injured right now
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Anything that came after that, clearly has no credibility
posted on 22/8/11
I see what you're saying. Fergie likes rotation so will be interesting to see which out of your 3 main wingers ends up with the most starts. Just trying to get some perspective Espiecally when you see players like Mikel Arteta nowhere near the Spain Squad. Nice to have a good debate..I'm off
posted on 22/8/11
okie right got confused with Ashley Cole' spanking by him
but he is injured
posted on 22/8/11
When has Valencia played on the left?
posted on 22/8/11
tbh, it all comes down to how well they perform on the pitch throughout the season. Bigger names and supposedly better players have come to the Prem and flopped.
Mata based on his performances in La Liga is a very very good player with huge potential. He could come here and adapt like Silva has and continue his progress, or he could come here and struggle like Veron did for us.
posted on 22/8/11
Look how fast Walcott is, where has that got him?
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To say he is 4 years younger than Young and he has more international caps. I think he has got further than Young.
posted on 22/8/11
Walcott is sh¡te...
posted on 22/8/11
good night all
posted on 22/8/11
last season he got 13 goals and 8 assist, so not really...
posted on 22/8/11
Im sorry but how can anyone say Walcott has been a success?
I swear he hasnt developed at all since moving to Arsenal and the guy is yet to even hold down a first team place!
Okay hes young but seriously, if he wasnt lightening qiick, hes be playing for Balckburn
posted on 22/8/11
HAHAHA well that shows how much knowledge you have. You are clearly deluded.
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