team sheets don't win matches
Right now I'd say the latter, but none of us have seen the former play together yet, it may all click in the coming months
On paper there isn't a great deal between them.
Add Matic to the Chelsea list and I think that tips the balance in their favour, at least until we can say Herrera / Blind have transformed our midfield.
It's very close, at the moment you would obviously say Chelsea. Do the Utd lot have more potential? Perhaps.
The issue is supplying the those front three, who are the difference between the two for me.
The Utd line up looks on paper to be superior IMO. But there is something not clicking with them. You can see the teams facing Utd appear to smell blood these days.
We're not judging them on individual talents.
These players have to fit into a system / team that gets the best out of all of them.
Chelsea under Mourinho look far more dangerous than LVGs United but the season is young - not that I expect a u-turn in their positions.
Its not about those players, both teams have great players and plenty of options.
Its the ones playing behind them that are more important to both teams and Chelsea have the better players by a wide margin.
Falcao >>>Costa
Rooney>>>>>>>>>>Drogba
RVP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remi
Di Maria>Hazard
Willian>>Januzaj
Shurrle>>Valencia
Salah Young Dunno
Mata>>Oscar
Fabregas>>Hererra
Some of the players are not like for like but United comfortable win it for me
It's further back Chelsea are stronger
Matic > Herrera
Fabregas > Blind
Mata > Oscar
Hazard > Januzaj
DI Maria > Willian
Falcao > Costa
RVP > Remy
Schurrle > Valencia
Salah > Young
Rooney > Drogba
Ramsey Wilshere Arteta Rosicky Cazorla Ozil Ox Theo Sanchez Giroud Podolski Sanogo Campbell Welbeck
World class
The Man Utd team may have the more stellar names with huge price tags but the Chelsea side looks more balanced.
Much depends on whether Van Gaal can get that Panini sticker book collection of players working well as a unit. If he can then they will be a force to be reckoned with but it certainly won't be easy.
Both teams will concede a hatful - that is a given.
Allowing City to slide on past the pair of you.
Mourinho will blame Fabregas and van Gaal will blame Woodward.
I notice that chelsea's stars are younger and Chelsea can expect more from them whereas most of the Utd ones are at or nearing the end. pretty equal on paper though.
For now without doubt the Chelsea lot and by some distance, that said the United have some serious talent there too. The difference is in the United players you have there includes some dross (Young and arguably Valencia) , some untested in the PL (Herrera, Di Maria & Falcao), some with questionable fitness (RVP, Falcao and Rooney), a Mata with patchy form and an inexperienced albeit talented Januzai.
The Chelsea counterparts all look to be at home in the PL (Salah aside who is young) and just seem right to me.
In terms of talent they are pretty close so things could change if you ask the same question a year from now but given the facys I have now and theirs respective ages there is no way I’d swap what we have.
Mourinho is also key.
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
It's Up For Grabs Now (U19972)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both teams will concede a hatful - that is a given.
Allowing City to slide on past the pair of you.
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That is unless Cities defence keep on allowing players like Diouf to glide past them, of course.
Chelsea are going to walk the premier League this season.
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They won't walk it, city will be very close.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by (U19135)
posted 1 minute ago
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
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And yet Chelsea will still finish at least 15 points ahead of you this season.
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Very likely yes, their defence is far stronger and they are far more used to playing together and with the system they play.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U19135)
posted 1 minute ago
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
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And yet Chelsea will still finish at least 15 points ahead of you this season.
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Mystic meg's in the house people
Yep, our defence is definitely a down graded version of yours
comment by Mr Mourinho (U5874)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, our defence is definitely a down graded version of yours
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Who said they were?
The January transfer window will be funny.
I will be fascinated to see how Van Gaal gets all of Rooney, RVP, Falcao, Mata and Di Maria into the same side effectively.
I'm saying that it can't be done and at least one of those players will have to make way.
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posted on 3/9/14
team sheets don't win matches
posted on 3/9/14
Right now I'd say the latter, but none of us have seen the former play together yet, it may all click in the coming months
posted on 3/9/14
On paper there isn't a great deal between them.
Add Matic to the Chelsea list and I think that tips the balance in their favour, at least until we can say Herrera / Blind have transformed our midfield.
posted on 3/9/14
It's very close, at the moment you would obviously say Chelsea. Do the Utd lot have more potential? Perhaps.
The issue is supplying the those front three, who are the difference between the two for me.
posted on 3/9/14
The Utd line up looks on paper to be superior IMO. But there is something not clicking with them. You can see the teams facing Utd appear to smell blood these days.
posted on 3/9/14
We're not judging them on individual talents.
These players have to fit into a system / team that gets the best out of all of them.
Chelsea under Mourinho look far more dangerous than LVGs United but the season is young - not that I expect a u-turn in their positions.
posted on 3/9/14
Its not about those players, both teams have great players and plenty of options.
Its the ones playing behind them that are more important to both teams and Chelsea have the better players by a wide margin.
posted on 3/9/14
Falcao >>>Costa
Rooney>>>>>>>>>>Drogba
RVP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remi
Di Maria>Hazard
Willian>>Januzaj
Shurrle>>Valencia
Salah Young Dunno
Mata>>Oscar
Fabregas>>Hererra
Some of the players are not like for like but United comfortable win it for me
It's further back Chelsea are stronger
posted on 3/9/14
Matic > Herrera
Fabregas > Blind
Mata > Oscar
Hazard > Januzaj
DI Maria > Willian
Falcao > Costa
RVP > Remy
Schurrle > Valencia
Salah > Young
Rooney > Drogba
posted on 3/9/14
Ramsey Wilshere Arteta Rosicky Cazorla Ozil Ox Theo Sanchez Giroud Podolski Sanogo Campbell Welbeck
World class
posted on 3/9/14
The Man Utd team may have the more stellar names with huge price tags but the Chelsea side looks more balanced.
Much depends on whether Van Gaal can get that Panini sticker book collection of players working well as a unit. If he can then they will be a force to be reckoned with but it certainly won't be easy.
posted on 3/9/14
Both teams will concede a hatful - that is a given.
Allowing City to slide on past the pair of you.
Mourinho will blame Fabregas and van Gaal will blame Woodward.
posted on 3/9/14
I notice that chelsea's stars are younger and Chelsea can expect more from them whereas most of the Utd ones are at or nearing the end. pretty equal on paper though.
posted on 3/9/14
For now without doubt the Chelsea lot and by some distance, that said the United have some serious talent there too. The difference is in the United players you have there includes some dross (Young and arguably Valencia) , some untested in the PL (Herrera, Di Maria & Falcao), some with questionable fitness (RVP, Falcao and Rooney), a Mata with patchy form and an inexperienced albeit talented Januzai.
The Chelsea counterparts all look to be at home in the PL (Salah aside who is young) and just seem right to me.
In terms of talent they are pretty close so things could change if you ask the same question a year from now but given the facys I have now and theirs respective ages there is no way I’d swap what we have.
Mourinho is also key.
posted on 3/9/14
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
posted on 3/9/14
It's Up For Grabs Now (U19972)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both teams will concede a hatful - that is a given.
Allowing City to slide on past the pair of you.
_________________________________________
That is unless Cities defence keep on allowing players like Diouf to glide past them, of course.
posted on 3/9/14
Chelsea are going to walk the premier League this season.
posted on 3/9/14
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posted on 3/9/14
They won't walk it, city will be very close.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by (U19135)
posted 1 minute ago
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
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And yet Chelsea will still finish at least 15 points ahead of you this season.
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Very likely yes, their defence is far stronger and they are far more used to playing together and with the system they play.
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Greatteamswinit4times-I'mdogmatic 27/4 (U6008)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by (U19135)
posted 1 minute ago
The only Chelsea players I would take from that lot are Fabregas and Hazard the rest are just downgraded versions of what we have.
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And yet Chelsea will still finish at least 15 points ahead of you this season.
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Mystic meg's in the house people
posted on 3/9/14
Yep, our defence is definitely a down graded version of yours
posted on 3/9/14
comment by Mr Mourinho (U5874)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yep, our defence is definitely a down graded version of yours
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Who said they were?
posted on 3/9/14
The January transfer window will be funny.
posted on 3/9/14
I will be fascinated to see how Van Gaal gets all of Rooney, RVP, Falcao, Mata and Di Maria into the same side effectively.
I'm saying that it can't be done and at least one of those players will have to make way.
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