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comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 27/10/14

He fell into his shoulder and hit his teeth.

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 27/10/14

Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.

posted on 27/10/14

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
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really?

posted on 27/10/14

"Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault."

especially Evra

he's most at fault

posted on 27/10/14

comment by ● (U4443)

posted 1 minute ago

Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.

.............

Indeed, shame on Evra for having the audacity for reporting racist behavior on a football pitch.


posted on 27/10/14

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 20 minutes ago
What is the title of the book?

'Who the f wants to eat cornflakes"
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- that's one of your best ever VC......... and there's been a few

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 2 minutes ago
"Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault."

especially Evra

he's most at fault
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You'd be banned if this were a Man Utd fan on the Liverpool board

Again, what did Evra do wrong?

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
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really?
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Yes. Suarez for the incident itself, Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong), the press for sensationalising it, Liverpool for defending it.

Admitting to using the word to identify Evra as being black, even though it's apparently normal for Sudo Americanos (maybe that is insulting to Suarez??) is basically an admission of a racist remark in this country, but it is not indicative of someone being racist.

Think there is/was a lot of misplaced fake outrage caused by tribalism and over PCness but also a ridiculous amount of twisting of the truth to try and defend Suarez.

posted on 27/10/14

So basically Suarez didn't understand that different cultures take offence to different things.

I don't think Suarez is a racist either but he was living in this culture and should have taken a bit of time to pick up on these things.

Many many football players are ignorant idiots who live in their superstar bubbles, Suarez proven to be one of them, but not a 'racist'.

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by There's only Juan Mata: tl;dr (U17162)
posted 39 seconds ago
So basically Suarez didn't understand that different cultures take offence to different things.

I don't think Suarez is a racist either but he was living in this culture and should have taken a bit of time to pick up on these things.

Many many football players are ignorant idiots who live in their superstar bubbles, Suarez proven to be one of them, but not a 'racist'.
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This

posted on 27/10/14

Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong),
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Which part?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
really?
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Yes. Suarez for the incident itself, Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong), the press for sensationalising it, Liverpool for defending it.

Admitting to using the word to identify Evra as being black, even though it's apparently normal for Sudo Americanos (maybe that is insulting to Suarez??) is basically an admission of a racist remark in this country, but it is not indicative of someone being racist.

Think there is/was a lot of misplaced fake outrage caused by tribalism and over PCness but also a ridiculous amount of twisting of the truth to try and defend Suarez.
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What did Evra get wrong?

He said somebody called him a négro and pinched his skin, and video footage along with the evidence suggests that was right.

posted on 27/10/14

It really didn't help matters that an identical incident occurred between Suarez and Yaya the season before

Yaya didn't make anything of it. Suarez didn't learn a cultural 'lesson'

posted on 27/10/14

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posted on 27/10/14

Suarez lies again in his book. When he was before the panel, he said when he called Evra negro he was being conciliatory, now he says he was not.

Is there an end to this man's lies?

posted on 27/10/14

"He said somebody called him a négro"

actually he didn't do that at all

he said Suarez called him a nig3er

then all hell broke loose

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by Busbybabes - Bítch (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
really?
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Yes. Suarez for the incident itself, Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong), the press for sensationalising it, Liverpool for defending it.

Admitting to using the word to identify Evra as being black, even though it's apparently normal for Sudo Americanos (maybe that is insulting to Suarez??) is basically an admission of a racist remark in this country, but it is not indicative of someone being racist.

Think there is/was a lot of misplaced fake outrage caused by tribalism and over PCness but also a ridiculous amount of twisting of the truth to try and defend Suarez.
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What did Evra get wrong?

He said somebody called him a négro and pinched his skin, and video footage along with the evidence suggests that was right.
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Did he not claim the word n!gger was used and got the number of times the word négro was used wrong?

Not saying he was doing it on purpose, just pointing out that he may have got stuff wrong which confused/exacerbated the situation. Obviously he is still the one and only victim in this.

posted on 27/10/14

Kaisers

When you got out of bed this morning, and I can only assume the sheets were a tad damp, what made you decide you wanted to show yourself up on a public forum?

posted on 27/10/14

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busbybabes - Bítch (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes. Suarez for the incident itself, Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong), the press for sensationalising it, Liverpool for defending it.

Admitting to using the word to identify Evra as being black, even though it's apparently normal for Sudo Americanos (maybe that is insulting to Suarez??) is basically an admission of a racist remark in this country, but it is not indicative of someone being racist.

Think there is/was a lot of misplaced fake outrage caused by tribalism and over PCness but also a ridiculous amount of twisting of the truth to try and defend Suarez.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What did Evra get wrong?

He said somebody called him a négro and pinched his skin, and video footage along with the evidence suggests that was right.
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Did he not claim the word n!gger was used and got the number of times the word négro was used wrong?

Not saying he was doing it on purpose, just pointing out that he may have got stuff wrong which confused/exacerbated the situation. Obviously he is still the one and only victim in this.
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And you find it impossible to believe that Evra believed he was being called exactly that?

A frenchman hears a Uruguayan call him negró multiple times I find it strange that anybody from the West wouldn't find this a discriminative term.

Either way, Suarez referred to his skin colour which isn't necessary.

comment by ● (U4443)

posted on 27/10/14

comment by Busbybabes - Bítch (U19985)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busbybabes - Bítch (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
Pretty much everyone involved in the Suarez-Evra incident and its fallout were at fault.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
really?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes. Suarez for the incident itself, Evra for lying (or at least getting his story wrong), the press for sensationalising it, Liverpool for defending it.

Admitting to using the word to identify Evra as being black, even though it's apparently normal for Sudo Americanos (maybe that is insulting to Suarez??) is basically an admission of a racist remark in this country, but it is not indicative of someone being racist.

Think there is/was a lot of misplaced fake outrage caused by tribalism and over PCness but also a ridiculous amount of twisting of the truth to try and defend Suarez.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What did Evra get wrong?

He said somebody called him a négro and pinched his skin, and video footage along with the evidence suggests that was right.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did he not claim the word n!gger was used and got the number of times the word négro was used wrong?

Not saying he was doing it on purpose, just pointing out that he may have got stuff wrong which confused/exacerbated the situation. Obviously he is still the one and only victim in this.
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And you find it impossible to believe that Evra believed he was being called exactly that?

A frenchman hears a Uruguayan call him negró multiple times I find it strange that anybody from the West wouldn't find this a discriminative term.

Either way, Suarez referred to his skin colour which isn't necessary.
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I don't know what he believed. I just know his version of events changed several times. Suarez did the same and this is seen as an indicator of his guilt.

Agreed on the last sentence - That's the summary of the whole incident to be fair.

posted on 27/10/14

The Frenchman who was having a conversation in Spanish and then complained about the English meaning of the word.

Suarez has laid it all out there, so make of it what you will.

posted on 27/10/14

I don't know what he believed.

....................

Really, I thought that was the second thing out of the whole event that was as crystal as it gets. The first being that Nibbles is a despicable little oik.

posted on 27/10/14

comment by Earl Brutus (U1449)
posted 13 minutes ago
Does his book say how he never bit Chiellini and he was just the victim of circumstance?
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Probably not, but it's pretty much what he said after the incident until Barca stepped in

The guy is a liar

Incredible that he's passing the non handshake blame over to Evra

If he had just stated the trurth about that, then the rest of his story might have had more credibility but him lying about that just proves the guy is a blatant liar

Something we all knew anyway

posted on 27/10/14

At the end of the day Suarez, willingly or not, used a racist term. Of course Evra isn't going to like it because the fact of the matter is it's derogatory over here. Whether or not he knew that changes nothing.

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