I just wrote an article where i mentioned this as well, i don't understand it at all. But the only reason why I can think of why he is starting over Remy is simply because Mourinho and Drogba have a close relationship and he wants him to end his career with a bang. However, it is harsh on Remy, he should be getting more chances. And if jose wants him to end on a bang then he should bring on King Didier during a big game and let Remy deal with all other games.
Naz ? do you think Jose makes decisions in general based on emotion & keeping his buddies happy?
I always assumed he made choices based on information , totally calculated.
Cant Roman and the board standing for too much irrationality, can you ?
" can't really see Roman "
Ifarka, I don't know, seriously have no clue. Why else would Drogba be starting over Remy?, don't get me wrong, I love Drogba and he is a legend at the club but he should be 3rd choice.
Well as you have no clue , lets assume Jose does .
Either that or a more likely reason is that Remy was not a Mourinho signing and he just does not fancy the player at all. Most definitely a stop-gap it looks like.
Drogba & Remy have both done what they have been asked when coming on.
But the point is what do we know, we are not privy to inside information from the club.
I haven't heard any negative comments concerning Remy, Jose and the Drog.
Naz ? do you think Jose makes decisions in general based on emotion & keeping his buddies happy?
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I definitely don't think he does - he is too much of a pragmatist.
The reasons why I think he gives Drogba the nod over Remy is:
- Since international breaks Drogba has done pretty decent for us, scoring against United, assisting for first goal then scoring second goal against Spurs, and giving us some hope against Newcastle.
- Drogba's style of play suits the way we set up and how the opposition sets up against us - most of the time.
- His hold up and interplay amongst the AM's is far superior in my opinion.
- There's a good chance Remy is still lacking in match fitness - so unless we are two or three up, Mourinho will not risk bringing on such a player - even if we are two or three up I think the first goal is to keep the 2nd striker sharp than to have two back-up striker getting few minutes distributed amongst them. Certainly something I would do.
- Finally I don't think he rates Remy, and that he was a desperate last minute signing. I can see why - I don't rate Remy as a lone striker: Here is an article laying out basically what my own thoughts are on Remy when I watched him at Newcastle as a lone striker - http://www.espnfc.com/club/newcastle-united/361/blog/post/1847860/loic-remy-is-he-really-a-lone-striker
- A find some peoples thoughts regarding the Drogba-Mourinho relationship quite amusing when this subject pops up, akin to the opposition fans thoughts regarding Mourinho hating Spanish players hence his persistence in leaving Mata out . I think we have a new fan favourite in Remy.
Either that or a more likely reason is that Remy was not a Mourinho signing and he just does not fancy the player at all. Most definitely a stop-gap it looks like.
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Naz who were you before?
We had this on the match thread as well. General consensus was trust and favouritism. Although one poster, KevinDeBruyne, put it down to form
Kev, i completely agree he is too much of a pragmatist to start making choices based nothing more than emotion.
Possibly he doesn't believe Remy can hold the lone striker role down ?
or is the season is still early and we would be better off seeing how it pans out ?
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
Kev, what do you mean?, I was 'Naz786' before if that is what you mean, I hardly use this.
Possibly he doesn't believe Remy can hold the lone striker role down ?
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I think so - well he at least believes Costa and Drogba are better suited to holding the lone striker role down, and I would completely agree.
I like Remy as a player, and think he can forge an excellent partnership with a main striker in the Andre Schrulle role. However Schrulle and Willian do offer defensive support which I guess Remy may be lacking in atm. Lately he has come on to play in a wide forward position - he may very well be getting trained behind the scenes to play that role, and we may see him there more often in the second half of the season, who knows. Schrulle and Willian right now are not really doing that great.
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 1 minute ago
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
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I'm saying those could be two reasons, and why I think it probably is. To say it's relationship is quite pathetic and weak.
comment by Naz (U10503)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kev, what do you mean?, I was 'Naz786' before if that is what you mean, I hardly use this.
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I thought you were someone else, haven't been your name around.
comment by Kevin De Bruyne #BurritoBaconSushiRoll (U14678)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 1 minute ago
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
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I'm saying those could be two reasons, and why I think it probably is. To say it's relationshipis quite pathetic and weak.
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Proven trust. Proven worth. Reliability. All equals relationship. I find it strange how you can't seem to grasp this
Reliability - Yes he is a reliable striker as we know from past.
Proven worth - Even if we look at the localised data since the international break then yes he has proven he can contribute.
Proven trust - Trust in what? That he would be reliable given his proven worth?
These are all footballing reasons - decisions that you take into consideration when putting player on. I have no issues with that and actually promote it. I thought you lot were suggesting that Drogba was being used purely because him and Mourinho are top buddies - and that's it.
Who do you lot reckon will be our strikers next season?
Costa, Kramaric(?)/Remy and Talisca (?) (we would of gotten him before Benfica but work permit was the problem then and Jose is apparently still keen on him. But he has a big release clause on him now.)
I don't think Mou particularly rates him. See's him as a stop-gap end of the window player we had to take at the time. I think he's better than that but would put money on him leaving in the summer or maybe sooner.
Nah, the word I used on the match thread to describe why he's getting picked ahead of Remy was favouritism. Not buddies. That was how you read it. And you were wrong.
Costa, Remy & Kramaric if we do sign him .
comment by Naz (U10503)
posted 1 minute ago
Who do you lot reckon will be our strikers next season?
Costa, Kramaric(?)/Remy and Talisca (?) (we would of gotten him before Benfica but work permit was the problem then and Jose is apparently still keen on him. But he has a big release clause on him now.)
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Costa + someone that can really challenge him for the first spot (right now the diff between first and second/third choice is too large). Someone like Benteke, Bony or Destro.
Third spot I'm hoping it would be Bamford or Kramaric if we do get him. Someone young.
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posted on 29/12/14
I just wrote an article where i mentioned this as well, i don't understand it at all. But the only reason why I can think of why he is starting over Remy is simply because Mourinho and Drogba have a close relationship and he wants him to end his career with a bang. However, it is harsh on Remy, he should be getting more chances. And if jose wants him to end on a bang then he should bring on King Didier during a big game and let Remy deal with all other games.
posted on 29/12/14
Naz ? do you think Jose makes decisions in general based on emotion & keeping his buddies happy?
I always assumed he made choices based on information , totally calculated.
Cant Roman and the board standing for too much irrationality, can you ?
posted on 29/12/14
" can't really see Roman "
posted on 29/12/14
Ifarka, I don't know, seriously have no clue. Why else would Drogba be starting over Remy?, don't get me wrong, I love Drogba and he is a legend at the club but he should be 3rd choice.
posted on 29/12/14
Well as you have no clue , lets assume Jose does .
posted on 29/12/14
Either that or a more likely reason is that Remy was not a Mourinho signing and he just does not fancy the player at all. Most definitely a stop-gap it looks like.
posted on 29/12/14
Drogba & Remy have both done what they have been asked when coming on.
But the point is what do we know, we are not privy to inside information from the club.
I haven't heard any negative comments concerning Remy, Jose and the Drog.
posted on 29/12/14
Naz ? do you think Jose makes decisions in general based on emotion & keeping his buddies happy?
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I definitely don't think he does - he is too much of a pragmatist.
The reasons why I think he gives Drogba the nod over Remy is:
- Since international breaks Drogba has done pretty decent for us, scoring against United, assisting for first goal then scoring second goal against Spurs, and giving us some hope against Newcastle.
- Drogba's style of play suits the way we set up and how the opposition sets up against us - most of the time.
- His hold up and interplay amongst the AM's is far superior in my opinion.
- There's a good chance Remy is still lacking in match fitness - so unless we are two or three up, Mourinho will not risk bringing on such a player - even if we are two or three up I think the first goal is to keep the 2nd striker sharp than to have two back-up striker getting few minutes distributed amongst them. Certainly something I would do.
- Finally I don't think he rates Remy, and that he was a desperate last minute signing. I can see why - I don't rate Remy as a lone striker: Here is an article laying out basically what my own thoughts are on Remy when I watched him at Newcastle as a lone striker - http://www.espnfc.com/club/newcastle-united/361/blog/post/1847860/loic-remy-is-he-really-a-lone-striker
- A find some peoples thoughts regarding the Drogba-Mourinho relationship quite amusing when this subject pops up, akin to the opposition fans thoughts regarding Mourinho hating Spanish players hence his persistence in leaving Mata out . I think we have a new fan favourite in Remy.
posted on 29/12/14
Either that or a more likely reason is that Remy was not a Mourinho signing and he just does not fancy the player at all. Most definitely a stop-gap it looks like.
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Naz who were you before?
posted on 29/12/14
We had this on the match thread as well. General consensus was trust and favouritism. Although one poster, KevinDeBruyne, put it down to form
posted on 29/12/14
Kev, i completely agree he is too much of a pragmatist to start making choices based nothing more than emotion.
Possibly he doesn't believe Remy can hold the lone striker role down ?
posted on 29/12/14
posted on 29/12/14
or is the season is still early and we would be better off seeing how it pans out ?
posted on 29/12/14
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
posted on 29/12/14
Kev, what do you mean?, I was 'Naz786' before if that is what you mean, I hardly use this.
posted on 29/12/14
Possibly he doesn't believe Remy can hold the lone striker role down ?
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I think so - well he at least believes Costa and Drogba are better suited to holding the lone striker role down, and I would completely agree.
I like Remy as a player, and think he can forge an excellent partnership with a main striker in the Andre Schrulle role. However Schrulle and Willian do offer defensive support which I guess Remy may be lacking in atm. Lately he has come on to play in a wide forward position - he may very well be getting trained behind the scenes to play that role, and we may see him there more often in the second half of the season, who knows. Schrulle and Willian right now are not really doing that great.
posted on 29/12/14
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 1 minute ago
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
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I'm saying those could be two reasons, and why I think it probably is. To say it's relationship is quite pathetic and weak.
posted on 29/12/14
comment by Naz (U10503)
posted 2 minutes ago
Kev, what do you mean?, I was 'Naz786' before if that is what you mean, I hardly use this.
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I thought you were someone else, haven't been your name around.
posted on 29/12/14
comment by Kevin De Bruyne #BurritoBaconSushiRoll (U14678)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 1 minute ago
I will take KDBs comments more seriously once Remy had been given a chance. Until then, to suggest its Remy's fitness and form is just plain wrong and ridiculous.
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I'm saying those could be two reasons, and why I think it probably is. To say it's relationshipis quite pathetic and weak.
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Proven trust. Proven worth. Reliability. All equals relationship. I find it strange how you can't seem to grasp this
posted on 29/12/14
Reliability - Yes he is a reliable striker as we know from past.
Proven worth - Even if we look at the localised data since the international break then yes he has proven he can contribute.
Proven trust - Trust in what? That he would be reliable given his proven worth?
These are all footballing reasons - decisions that you take into consideration when putting player on. I have no issues with that and actually promote it. I thought you lot were suggesting that Drogba was being used purely because him and Mourinho are top buddies - and that's it.
posted on 29/12/14
Who do you lot reckon will be our strikers next season?
Costa, Kramaric(?)/Remy and Talisca (?) (we would of gotten him before Benfica but work permit was the problem then and Jose is apparently still keen on him. But he has a big release clause on him now.)
posted on 29/12/14
I don't think Mou particularly rates him. See's him as a stop-gap end of the window player we had to take at the time. I think he's better than that but would put money on him leaving in the summer or maybe sooner.
posted on 29/12/14
Nah, the word I used on the match thread to describe why he's getting picked ahead of Remy was favouritism. Not buddies. That was how you read it. And you were wrong.
posted on 29/12/14
Costa, Remy & Kramaric if we do sign him .
posted on 29/12/14
comment by Naz (U10503)
posted 1 minute ago
Who do you lot reckon will be our strikers next season?
Costa, Kramaric(?)/Remy and Talisca (?) (we would of gotten him before Benfica but work permit was the problem then and Jose is apparently still keen on him. But he has a big release clause on him now.)
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Costa + someone that can really challenge him for the first spot (right now the diff between first and second/third choice is too large). Someone like Benteke, Bony or Destro.
Third spot I'm hoping it would be Bamford or Kramaric if we do get him. Someone young.
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