The Iraqi government is full of Shia muslims by the way, including the current PM. Yet they choose to neglect it's people and torture them in another way that doesn't include bombs.
"I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of."
They weren't hateful, they were supposed to be comical, fun poking at it's worst.
Should we be angry at the person who drew this?
http://tribunecartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/never-mind-the-bankers-5501.jpg
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
This kinda stuff is worrying http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20181601
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
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Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
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There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
Wahabbis mainly in Saudi.
=====
The Wahabbists have gats to go
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As mooted in the OP, for this not to be hate-fuelled or at least have some kind of agenda, one would hope that ALL religions were mocked in the same way.
If we're defending free-speech and satire.
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Everything should be criticised I just don't see why people can't be civilised about it.
Ridicule won't make people ask questions of there ideology it will only upset them.
Engage in debate and maybe you can get somewhere without violence.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
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http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way? They apologised for one of their offensive cartoons to the jews.
I like the way the jews handle their business.
I think in Islam 85% are Sunni and 15% are Shia.
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way? They apologised for one of their offensive cartoons to the jews.
I like the way the jews handle their business.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So do I, they are all rich because of it.
Balotelli must be wondering why there were no Je Suis Mario t-shirts made by his team mates
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most comics will self-deprecate about their own religion/colour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Frankie Boyle picked on Harvey Price in a 'disgusting' manner. Didn't mean he hated the thing.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-demand-apology-for-anti-semitic-netanyahu-cartoon/
Good to see Netanyahu at the free speech rally yesterday
i kind of agree with the OP here.
What happened was barbaric and a waste of lives.
but lets cut the bullshít and call it as it is.
while noone deserved to die is anyone actually shocked by what happened when you think about what was posted in these magazines??
one thing you dont do is mock the religion of such a radical bunch of believers, free speech or not.
the killings were extreme to say the least, but by posting distasteful cartoons, aimed at those they were aimed at, they were asking for repercussions.
These people kill innocent people because they believe its what Mohamed wants.
take the píss out of him like they did, and youre just fecking stupid.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not as informed about Islam like you, but come on there are so many different beliefs between Shia and Sunni muslims.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the sad thing about religion, a disagreement over an interpretation by men leads to chaos eventually.
Happened with Christianity. Martin Luther wanted to shág a nun, was not able to, then left and set up the anglican communion, went downhill from there.
Henry the 8th wanted a divorce, the Catholic church said no, suddenly England became an Anglican nation.
Man made problems corrupting faith. Faith is a beautiful thing but man has to come along and fack it up for everyone
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
So are ghosts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Balotelli must be wondering why there were no Je Suis Mario t-shirts made by his team mates
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed!
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most comics will self-deprecate about their own religion/colour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Frankie Boyle picked on Harvey Price in a 'disgusting' manner. Didn't mean he hated the thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 8 minutes ago
This kinda stuff is worrying http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20181601
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fack is that real?!
Je ne suis pas Charlie
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posted on 12/1/15
The Iraqi government is full of Shia muslims by the way, including the current PM. Yet they choose to neglect it's people and torture them in another way that doesn't include bombs.
posted on 12/1/15
"I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of."
They weren't hateful, they were supposed to be comical, fun poking at it's worst.
Should we be angry at the person who drew this?
http://tribunecartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/never-mind-the-bankers-5501.jpg
posted on 12/1/15
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
posted on 12/1/15
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 12/1/15
This kinda stuff is worrying http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20181601
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
posted on 12/1/15
Wahabbis mainly in Saudi.
=====
The Wahabbists have gats to go
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As mooted in the OP, for this not to be hate-fuelled or at least have some kind of agenda, one would hope that ALL religions were mocked in the same way.
If we're defending free-speech and satire.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Everything should be criticised I just don't see why people can't be civilised about it.
Ridicule won't make people ask questions of there ideology it will only upset them.
Engage in debate and maybe you can get somewhere without violence.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
posted on 12/1/15
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way? They apologised for one of their offensive cartoons to the jews.
I like the way the jews handle their business.
posted on 12/1/15
I think in Islam 85% are Sunni and 15% are Shia.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Let us be honest for a second if CH did those drawings repeatedly about Jews they would have been shut down a long time ago
----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/charlie-hebdo-cover1.jpeg
They did poke fun at Jews.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In the same way? They apologised for one of their offensive cartoons to the jews.
I like the way the jews handle their business.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So do I, they are all rich because of it.
posted on 12/1/15
Balotelli must be wondering why there were no Je Suis Mario t-shirts made by his team mates
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most comics will self-deprecate about their own religion/colour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Frankie Boyle picked on Harvey Price in a 'disgusting' manner. Didn't mean he hated the thing.
posted on 12/1/15
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-demand-apology-for-anti-semitic-netanyahu-cartoon/
Good to see Netanyahu at the free speech rally yesterday
posted on 12/1/15
i kind of agree with the OP here.
What happened was barbaric and a waste of lives.
but lets cut the bullshít and call it as it is.
while noone deserved to die is anyone actually shocked by what happened when you think about what was posted in these magazines??
one thing you dont do is mock the religion of such a radical bunch of believers, free speech or not.
the killings were extreme to say the least, but by posting distasteful cartoons, aimed at those they were aimed at, they were asking for repercussions.
These people kill innocent people because they believe its what Mohamed wants.
take the píss out of him like they did, and youre just fecking stupid.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not as informed about Islam like you, but come on there are so many different beliefs between Shia and Sunni muslims.
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Di Maria's Left Foot - The Holy Trinity (U11781)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Are Sunnis and Shias different like Catholics and Protestants are?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, that's exactly how it is. There's probably more hatred between the two though than Christians and Protestants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It wasn't always this bad though.
We both read the same Quran.
We have slightly different set of Hadith's and then there is the dispute about who should have ben Muhammads (pbuh) successor.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the sad thing about religion, a disagreement over an interpretation by men leads to chaos eventually.
Happened with Christianity. Martin Luther wanted to shág a nun, was not able to, then left and set up the anglican communion, went downhill from there.
Henry the 8th wanted a divorce, the Catholic church said no, suddenly England became an Anglican nation.
Man made problems corrupting faith. Faith is a beautiful thing but man has to come along and fack it up for everyone
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
So are ghosts
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 12/1/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 2 minutes ago
Balotelli must be wondering why there were no Je Suis Mario t-shirts made by his team mates
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed!
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *Palestine4Ever* (U18082)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Galv: Harry Kaned : ESPN Dwarf (U10415)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 37 seconds ago
Does free speech actually exist? A lot of people bum on about their 'right to free speech' but I am pretty sure it is a load of BS. If I shouted something anti-semitic in ear-shot of a policeman I am pretty sure I would get arrested.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is free-speech and hate-speech.....
But you're right, we think we're free....
We're not at all
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm pretty sure the French comics fall under hate.
You wouldn't draw such disgusting pictures if you didn't hate the person or thing you were drawing them of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
that's not entirely true, I think hate is different from offensive irreverence, which i think was the case with CH.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with this, take comedians for example, they don't hate (well not on the whole) those who they ridicule.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most comics will self-deprecate about their own religion/colour
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Frankie Boyle picked on Harvey Price in a 'disgusting' manner. Didn't mean he hated the thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted 8 minutes ago
This kinda stuff is worrying http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20181601
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fack is that real?!
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