How does gabby agbonlahor get to work if he can't eneter birmingham?
#foxnewsfacts
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
Good article OP, PC brigade won't like it but 5 s from me.
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 23 minutes ago
I think the fact that more and more of these attacks are coming from people born and bred in the country they reside, suggests it's not an issue with the Middle East but with the religion in general
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Pretty islamaphobic opinion there. There is no justification for any murders based on anything.
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Islamaphobic, explain?
As I said in that same post, I've not an issue with Islam in isolation, but all religion based on books written thousands of years ago.
They hold little to no relevance in today's society. If you believe there is something out there that guides you through life and after death, great, no need for a book or man made rules for that.
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 38 seconds ago
How does gabby agbonlahor get to work if he can't eneter birmingham?
#foxnewsfacts
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E. Muslim people being put in the same box as violent extremists
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violent Muslim extremists
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
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It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
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The magazine was aimed at a certain audience, an audience who buy the magazine because they enjoy the comedy and satire. I'm not sure their aim was to wind up as many people as possible.
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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
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In fairness, not all of those countries are examples of moderate countries.
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comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
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In fairness, not all of those countries are examples of moderate countries.
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The argument was that where muslims dominate extremism follows. That is not the case in any of those countries
It comes down to this. Anyone is allowed to ridicule religion (any religion!) if that's what they want to do. As long as you're not going into places of worship or people's homes or specifically targeting people of faith in order to mock them, ridicule is entirely acceptable.
Charlie Hebdo drew pictures! That's all they did. The pictures mocked various religions including Islam. Fair play. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If they went into Mosques and started handing out the pictures to Muslims then that would be wrong. But they didn't.
So get over yourself with your sense of outrage over a few cartoons!
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comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
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It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
....
The magazine was aimed at a certain audience, an audience who buy the magazine because they enjoy the comedy and satire. I'm not sure their aim was to wind up as many people as possible.
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Please watch this video containing the content and tell me what is comical or satirical about the content?
http://youtu.be/U56q428amN0
Regardless, if I wanted to do 'satire' about 9/11 would it be welcomed as equally?
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by 🇬🇧 MARK.🇬🇧 (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
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It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
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Mate, no matter which way you dress it up, you don't respond to a 2HB with an AK47
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PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.
This article is not about whether the extremists are justified.
It's about:
A. A magazine being portrayed as freedom of political speech.
B. it's actually not, but because of it's irresponsibility with free speech it jeopardizes the efforts of those that have something valid to say.
C. They were being hateful in order for profit, not political freedom.
D. People should view the content before forming an opinion on the nobility of the magazine's content.
E. Muslim people being put in the same box as violent extremists
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It's a magazine, if people don't like it it's their right not to read it, nothing is being forced on anyone, it's not jeopardising anything, if people lose their self control after looking at pages in a magazine that no one is forcing them to read then they should really look at themselves before pointing the finger at others.
People hating on muslim here and saying people who follow the religion are morons and its full of terrorists cheer on muslims every week in the form of; Ozil, Nasri, Yaya, Papis Cisse, Sissoko
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my views on extremism
I do not know the actual statistics but i am sure there are over 1 billion muslims. From a statistical point of view the fact that thousand of muslims carry out heinous crimes is actually a very small statistic.
Carrying out this crime under the slogan of islam is the bigger problem. The negative PR. Cos ignorant non muslims begin to percieve other billion or so muslims as a threat.
The muslim community imho should be the one to take the strongest actions in reprimanding this extremists. Non muslims reprimanding creates and us against them mentality in which many muslims feel they are being persecuted. An environment to breed the next generation of terrorists as we are seeing today.
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comment by conormcgrace (U4307)
posted 42 seconds ago
It comes down to this. Anyone is allowed to ridicule religion (any religion!) if that's what they want to do. As long as you're not going into places of worship or people's homes or specifically targeting people of faith in order to mock them, ridicule is entirely acceptable.
Charlie Hebdo drew pictures! That's all they did. The pictures mocked various religions including Islam. Fair play. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If they went into Mosques and started handing out the pictures to Muslims then that would be wrong. But they didn't.
So get over yourself with your sense of outrage over a few cartoons!
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Thank you for articulating your argument in a clear and well written manor rather than simply hurling abuse. I take your point on board.
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Je ne suis pas Charlie
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posted on 12/1/15
How does gabby agbonlahor get to work if he can't eneter birmingham?
#foxnewsfacts
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
posted on 12/1/15
Good article OP, PC brigade won't like it but 5 s from me.
posted on 12/1/15
Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 23 minutes ago
I think the fact that more and more of these attacks are coming from people born and bred in the country they reside, suggests it's not an issue with the Middle East but with the religion in general
-------
Pretty islamaphobic opinion there. There is no justification for any murders based on anything.
___________________________________
Islamaphobic, explain?
As I said in that same post, I've not an issue with Islam in isolation, but all religion based on books written thousands of years ago.
They hold little to no relevance in today's society. If you believe there is something out there that guides you through life and after death, great, no need for a book or man made rules for that.
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 38 seconds ago
How does gabby agbonlahor get to work if he can't eneter birmingham?
#foxnewsfacts
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posted on 12/1/15
E. Muslim people being put in the same box as violent extremists
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violent Muslim extremists
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
....
The magazine was aimed at a certain audience, an audience who buy the magazine because they enjoy the comedy and satire. I'm not sure their aim was to wind up as many people as possible.
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
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In fairness, not all of those countries are examples of moderate countries.
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Lefty (U17934)
posted 2 minutes ago
only moderate until they become a majority
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Indonesia, Malaysia, Qatar, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Turkey say otherwise
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In fairness, not all of those countries are examples of moderate countries.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument was that where muslims dominate extremism follows. That is not the case in any of those countries
posted on 12/1/15
It comes down to this. Anyone is allowed to ridicule religion (any religion!) if that's what they want to do. As long as you're not going into places of worship or people's homes or specifically targeting people of faith in order to mock them, ridicule is entirely acceptable.
Charlie Hebdo drew pictures! That's all they did. The pictures mocked various religions including Islam. Fair play. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If they went into Mosques and started handing out the pictures to Muslims then that would be wrong. But they didn't.
So get over yourself with your sense of outrage over a few cartoons!
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
....
The magazine was aimed at a certain audience, an audience who buy the magazine because they enjoy the comedy and satire. I'm not sure their aim was to wind up as many people as possible.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please watch this video containing the content and tell me what is comical or satirical about the content?
http://youtu.be/U56q428amN0
Regardless, if I wanted to do 'satire' about 9/11 would it be welcomed as equally?
posted on 12/1/15
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by 🇬🇧 MARK.🇬🇧 (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bebe's Slow Dance With Sir Neil Warnock - A National Treasure (U13709)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney Reckers (U1005)
posted 19 seconds ago
Oh no they drew a picture of a guy who doesn't exist, and upset some deluded followers of such fictional being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not about what you think is real or not. It's about the magazine INTENTIONALLY provoking and vilifying a section of society with something they hold dear. It's not about the actual content itself necessarily.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mate, no matter which way you dress it up, you don't respond to a 2HB with an AK47
----------------------------------------------------------------------
PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.
This article is not about whether the extremists are justified.
It's about:
A. A magazine being portrayed as freedom of political speech.
B. it's actually not, but because of it's irresponsibility with free speech it jeopardizes the efforts of those that have something valid to say.
C. They were being hateful in order for profit, not political freedom.
D. People should view the content before forming an opinion on the nobility of the magazine's content.
E. Muslim people being put in the same box as violent extremists
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's a magazine, if people don't like it it's their right not to read it, nothing is being forced on anyone, it's not jeopardising anything, if people lose their self control after looking at pages in a magazine that no one is forcing them to read then they should really look at themselves before pointing the finger at others.
posted on 12/1/15
People hating on muslim here and saying people who follow the religion are morons and its full of terrorists cheer on muslims every week in the form of; Ozil, Nasri, Yaya, Papis Cisse, Sissoko
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
my views on extremism
I do not know the actual statistics but i am sure there are over 1 billion muslims. From a statistical point of view the fact that thousand of muslims carry out heinous crimes is actually a very small statistic.
Carrying out this crime under the slogan of islam is the bigger problem. The negative PR. Cos ignorant non muslims begin to percieve other billion or so muslims as a threat.
The muslim community imho should be the one to take the strongest actions in reprimanding this extremists. Non muslims reprimanding creates and us against them mentality in which many muslims feel they are being persecuted. An environment to breed the next generation of terrorists as we are seeing today.
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
comment by conormcgrace (U4307)
posted 42 seconds ago
It comes down to this. Anyone is allowed to ridicule religion (any religion!) if that's what they want to do. As long as you're not going into places of worship or people's homes or specifically targeting people of faith in order to mock them, ridicule is entirely acceptable.
Charlie Hebdo drew pictures! That's all they did. The pictures mocked various religions including Islam. Fair play. There is NOTHING wrong with that. If they went into Mosques and started handing out the pictures to Muslims then that would be wrong. But they didn't.
So get over yourself with your sense of outrage over a few cartoons!
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Thank you for articulating your argument in a clear and well written manor rather than simply hurling abuse. I take your point on board.
posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
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posted on 12/1/15
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