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Just shows the level of arrogance that rubbed all the players up the wrong way. He's clearly asking for too much money but without real experience and clout, he's not going to get it. He's lucky Premier League teams even interview him. He's got as much experience as Chris Ramsey or Alan Carver and I can't imagine either of those two making crazy demands.
He's just an idiot. End of story.
don't let chicken see this, he will be after you.
the rest of us know that hes a total plank though. no surprises.
fridgeboy,
It wasn't about money - he wanted some assurances on certain things should they go down - nothing out of the ordinary there.
The assurances might have been about incoming or outgoing transfers, or a number of other things that would have a negative effect on how he can do the job.
It would be much easier to just take the job on any old terms and moan later down the line that promises have been broken.
And i dont see the need to mock ex-managers just for the sake of doing so. Instead of giving praise for introducing certain players to the first team fold, we get needless digs because he didnt want a job when the terms werent right.
It just seems a bit daft to me.
Sorry to be a killjoy....boo Chicken boooo
everyone has praised Sherwood for bentaleb
but we all can see that he is a bellllend too.
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
if I was running a football club, Sherwood as a person is the opposite of what I would look for.
Come on chicken jesus. It's no coincidence that sherwood has got to the interview stage at many clubs since he left Spurs and failed to get a position at that club. Clearly he has way to high a opinion of himself and seems to talk himself out of a job all the time. He should be thanking his lucky stars that so many clubs want him considering he's got no experience at all. He will end up with nothing with fhe way he goes.
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
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If he really wasn't promoted to the full time job because of something he said - then that is pretty childish.
I think it was more the fact Levy had more faith in Poch - but if the job was not given for non-footballing reasons (as you seem to believe) then i'm ashamed at our board.
Don,
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
And i totally agree with any manager (or person in general) who refuses a job if the terms dont suit.
I think you need to stop posting from an anti-personality angle - and try to debate in these situations as if it was Person A or Person B.
comment by Chicken - Mr Consistent✔ (U1043)
posted 3 minutes ago
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
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If he really wasn't promoted to the full time job because of something he said - then that is pretty childish.
I think it was more the fact Levy had more faith in Poch - but if the job was not given for non-footballing reasons (as you seem to believe) then i'm ashamed at our board.
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why? I would have thought the image that the manager who represents the club portrays would be quite important to any serious business... no?
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon.
has Sherwood even done all his badges yet?
perhaps he should go and get himself qualified, then have another go in a year or so
This is what it seems to be over:
"Sherwood had sought assurances over the club's future plans and expressed concern about the impact relegation from the Premier League might have, with the club potentially facing a £54m Football League fine or a transfer embargo for breaching financial fair play rules in their promotion season".
And fair play to him for wanting assurances. Would Poch have taken the Spurs job if he was told he couldn't bring in any players of his own? Or LVG? Mourinho? I very much doubt it.
And i'm sorry again for being a party pooper....
there is no party here chicken.
we are just wondering why Sherwood cannot get a gig.
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
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The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
there is no party here chicken.
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Why not?
chicken are you arguing with me again?
Right chicken, so your dismissing chronics posts and saying the redknapp thing " probably weren't true" but telling us a newspaper article in Sherwood without no quotes is " fact" .... How do you know this? The press could be putting 2 and 2 together like they usually do. How do yiu know talks broke down with Sherwood because of over inflated demands? There's not 1 quotes in that article which leaves IT open for anything. Facts are Sherwood has had numerous interviews for various jobs and is still unemployed. No coincidence there mate.
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
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To be honest if Sherwood was any good they would not go down so why would he need assurances?
Same story with Palace, West Brom.. regardless of the reason he's not getting PL jobs that are being taken by other respected coaches. btw.. comparing a novice to the likes of LVG, Mourinho and even Poch is ridiculous. Sherwood is not in a position to make demands, he should be grateful to even be interviewed for these jobs.
Funny how after a few wins with us he started talking to the press about 7 year contracts and full control of transfers.. the guy's an idiot imo, who needs to learn his place in the game and have some respect for clubs and other coaches that have achieved far more than he has in the game.
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
================
The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
Cobblers & you know it Chicken.
Redknapp was sacked after making derogatory comments about both Levy & the Board, he was stupid enough to make these within earshot of two of Spur's Directors. Levy was on compassionate leave after his mother died.
When Joe Lewis heard about this he gave the order to terminate Redknapp's contract.
With regard to your "hero" Sherwood, the reason he was unsuccessful at QPR was apparently over money. Sherwood wanted a "big guaranteed survival bonus" and was told no.
QPR face a £48m fine if they are regulated for breaching Football League finance fair play rules, when they were last in the Championship
comment by Chicken - Mr Consistent✔ (U1043)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Don,
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
And i totally agree with any manager (or person in general) who refuses a job if the terms dont suit.
I think you need to stop posting from an anti-personality angle - and try to debate in these situations as if it was Person A or Person B.
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Interview:
QPR - Hello Mr Sherwood sit down please. We're looking for a manager who can keep us up.
Sherwood: I can do that. I have the highest % winning record of any Spurs manager ever. All those youngster at Spurs, thats my work that is. Kane...yeah...i made him what he is. SO i will shake this team up by the balls and get them playing for you and keep QPR up.
QPR: Perfect sounds likes exactly what we need. You'll be paid well and when we stay up we'll have £x m to spend in the window to build your squad, more if you can ship players out.
Sherwood. Excellent. We will work well together! Just one thing, if we get relegated then i want.....
QPR. Woh woh woh there Tim. IF we get relegated. You said you'd keep us up.
Sherwood: Yeah but IF we get relegated then I want assurances that...
QPR: STOP! you said you'll keep us up and now you're not.
Sherwood: No, not at all. You'll whip these slackers into shape and keep us up, BUT just in case.....
QPR: Get out you gobsheite.
chicken, I like you mate but the question you got to ask yourself is why are you always fighting a losing battle with your own supporters? almost every argument you have will be the complete opposite of the vast majority. Now I know exactly what you will reply to me and that will be that you don't follow the sheep but it's no coincidence that when ever you have a debate on here almost every single person disagrees with you. No ones following sheep here mate but surely we can't all be wrong? Sherwood is a gobs hite and has probably has clearly talked himself out of all the jobs he has gone for since Spurs got rid
in fairness if i remember correctly i think it was sherwood who drove to birmingham to collect bentaleb and thrash out a deal with birmingham as they had tecnically signed him.
i think the problem is that sherwood had so much power at spurs as he was a footballing director (so above the head coach) so these days people want a head coach but sherwood wants to be a manager and control it all.
i thought ferdy called the shots at qpr but obviously the erratic fernandes still has a say in things.
Sherwood should get credit for bentalab and a certain extent kane that is certain but he's a novice and certainly Dosent have a right to be thrashing around all these terms. He should feel lucky to have so many offers for someone with no experience
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch! (U1302)
posted 49 seconds ago
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
================
The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
Cobblers & you know it Chicken.
Redknapp was sacked after making derogatory comments about both Levy & the Board, he was stupid enough to make these within earshot of two of Spur's Directors. Levy was on compassionate leave after his mother died.
When Joe Lewis heard about this he gave the order to terminate Redknapp's contract.
With regard to your "hero" Sherwood, the reason he was unsuccessful at QPR was apparently over money. Sherwood wanted a "big guaranteed survival bonus" and was told no.
QPR face a £48m fine if they are regulated for breaching Football League finance fair play rules, when they were last in the Championship
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Not to mention the fact that in or around Feb-March he denied that his contract situation (1 year left on his deal) had no impact on the players as "they don't care who the manager is, they just focus on the games itself", which was roughly around the time Spurs were 3rd and he thought the England job was in the bag....
Fast forward to May after he's finished 4th and been snubbed for the England job and all of a sudden he's after a new deal as it would eradicate any uncertainty amongst the players as to whether he'll be there or not.
As for Dim Sherwood, maybe his over-inflated opinion of himself means he's expecting chairmen to beg him to take over their team on the basis that he managed to recover from 3-0 down at west Brom in 15 mins to snatch a draw. What a mug.
No point in wasting your energies on Chicken anyway lads, he's a waste of oxygen.
i think the problem is that sherwood had so much power at spurs as he was a footballing director (so above the head coach) so these days people want a head coach but sherwood wants to be a manager and control it all.
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It'd be fine him controlling it all if he knew what he was doing. Having the right (necessary) qualifications would be a good start. A bit of experience in actually coaching a team would be good too.
Regardless of his good work behind the scenes, and apparently it was good, that does not make him ready or suitable to be Spurs coach. Much less manager with full control of signings etc.. cos he got Bentaleb to come along for a trial?
What about all the youngsters we missed out on or have been average.. does he get the blame for those?
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posted on 11/2/15
Just shows the level of arrogance that rubbed all the players up the wrong way. He's clearly asking for too much money but without real experience and clout, he's not going to get it. He's lucky Premier League teams even interview him. He's got as much experience as Chris Ramsey or Alan Carver and I can't imagine either of those two making crazy demands.
He's just an idiot. End of story.
posted on 11/2/15
don't let chicken see this, he will be after you.
the rest of us know that hes a total plank though. no surprises.
posted on 11/2/15
fridgeboy,
It wasn't about money - he wanted some assurances on certain things should they go down - nothing out of the ordinary there.
The assurances might have been about incoming or outgoing transfers, or a number of other things that would have a negative effect on how he can do the job.
It would be much easier to just take the job on any old terms and moan later down the line that promises have been broken.
And i dont see the need to mock ex-managers just for the sake of doing so. Instead of giving praise for introducing certain players to the first team fold, we get needless digs because he didnt want a job when the terms werent right.
It just seems a bit daft to me.
Sorry to be a killjoy....boo Chicken boooo
posted on 11/2/15
everyone has praised Sherwood for bentaleb
but we all can see that he is a bellllend too.
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
if I was running a football club, Sherwood as a person is the opposite of what I would look for.
posted on 11/2/15
Come on chicken jesus. It's no coincidence that sherwood has got to the interview stage at many clubs since he left Spurs and failed to get a position at that club. Clearly he has way to high a opinion of himself and seems to talk himself out of a job all the time. He should be thanking his lucky stars that so many clubs want him considering he's got no experience at all. He will end up with nothing with fhe way he goes.
posted on 11/2/15
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
=================
If he really wasn't promoted to the full time job because of something he said - then that is pretty childish.
I think it was more the fact Levy had more faith in Poch - but if the job was not given for non-footballing reasons (as you seem to believe) then i'm ashamed at our board.
posted on 11/2/15
Don,
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
And i totally agree with any manager (or person in general) who refuses a job if the terms dont suit.
I think you need to stop posting from an anti-personality angle - and try to debate in these situations as if it was Person A or Person B.
posted on 11/2/15
comment by Chicken - Mr Consistent✔ (U1043)
posted 3 minutes ago
talked himself out of a job at spurs, and quite clearly other chairman around were less than impressed too.
=================
If he really wasn't promoted to the full time job because of something he said - then that is pretty childish.
I think it was more the fact Levy had more faith in Poch - but if the job was not given for non-footballing reasons (as you seem to believe) then i'm ashamed at our board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
why? I would have thought the image that the manager who represents the club portrays would be quite important to any serious business... no?
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon.
posted on 11/2/15
has Sherwood even done all his badges yet?
perhaps he should go and get himself qualified, then have another go in a year or so
posted on 11/2/15
This is what it seems to be over:
"Sherwood had sought assurances over the club's future plans and expressed concern about the impact relegation from the Premier League might have, with the club potentially facing a £54m Football League fine or a transfer embargo for breaching financial fair play rules in their promotion season".
And fair play to him for wanting assurances. Would Poch have taken the Spurs job if he was told he couldn't bring in any players of his own? Or LVG? Mourinho? I very much doubt it.
And i'm sorry again for being a party pooper....
posted on 11/2/15
there is no party here chicken.
we are just wondering why Sherwood cannot get a gig.
posted on 11/2/15
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
================
The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
posted on 11/2/15
there is no party here chicken.
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Why not?
posted on 11/2/15
chicken are you arguing with me again?
posted on 11/2/15
Right chicken, so your dismissing chronics posts and saying the redknapp thing " probably weren't true" but telling us a newspaper article in Sherwood without no quotes is " fact" .... How do you know this? The press could be putting 2 and 2 together like they usually do. How do yiu know talks broke down with Sherwood because of over inflated demands? There's not 1 quotes in that article which leaves IT open for anything. Facts are Sherwood has had numerous interviews for various jobs and is still unemployed. No coincidence there mate.
posted on 11/2/15
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To be honest if Sherwood was any good they would not go down so why would he need assurances?
posted on 11/2/15
Same story with Palace, West Brom.. regardless of the reason he's not getting PL jobs that are being taken by other respected coaches. btw.. comparing a novice to the likes of LVG, Mourinho and even Poch is ridiculous. Sherwood is not in a position to make demands, he should be grateful to even be interviewed for these jobs.
Funny how after a few wins with us he started talking to the press about 7 year contracts and full control of transfers.. the guy's an idiot imo, who needs to learn his place in the game and have some respect for clubs and other coaches that have achieved far more than he has in the game.
posted on 11/2/15
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
================
The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
Cobblers & you know it Chicken.
Redknapp was sacked after making derogatory comments about both Levy & the Board, he was stupid enough to make these within earshot of two of Spur's Directors. Levy was on compassionate leave after his mother died.
When Joe Lewis heard about this he gave the order to terminate Redknapp's contract.
With regard to your "hero" Sherwood, the reason he was unsuccessful at QPR was apparently over money. Sherwood wanted a "big guaranteed survival bonus" and was told no.
QPR face a £48m fine if they are regulated for breaching Football League finance fair play rules, when they were last in the Championship
posted on 11/2/15
comment by Chicken - Mr Consistent✔ (U1043)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Don,
Have you read the full story on thsi subject? This isn't a pro / anti Sherwood debate - i'm trying to explain the facts here.
The breakdown came because of certain assurances should they go down.
And i totally agree with any manager (or person in general) who refuses a job if the terms dont suit.
I think you need to stop posting from an anti-personality angle - and try to debate in these situations as if it was Person A or Person B.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interview:
QPR - Hello Mr Sherwood sit down please. We're looking for a manager who can keep us up.
Sherwood: I can do that. I have the highest % winning record of any Spurs manager ever. All those youngster at Spurs, thats my work that is. Kane...yeah...i made him what he is. SO i will shake this team up by the balls and get them playing for you and keep QPR up.
QPR: Perfect sounds likes exactly what we need. You'll be paid well and when we stay up we'll have £x m to spend in the window to build your squad, more if you can ship players out.
Sherwood. Excellent. We will work well together! Just one thing, if we get relegated then i want.....
QPR. Woh woh woh there Tim. IF we get relegated. You said you'd keep us up.
Sherwood: Yeah but IF we get relegated then I want assurances that...
QPR: STOP! you said you'll keep us up and now you're not.
Sherwood: No, not at all. You'll whip these slackers into shape and keep us up, BUT just in case.....
QPR: Get out you gobsheite.
posted on 11/2/15
chicken, I like you mate but the question you got to ask yourself is why are you always fighting a losing battle with your own supporters? almost every argument you have will be the complete opposite of the vast majority. Now I know exactly what you will reply to me and that will be that you don't follow the sheep but it's no coincidence that when ever you have a debate on here almost every single person disagrees with you. No ones following sheep here mate but surely we can't all be wrong? Sherwood is a gobs hite and has probably has clearly talked himself out of all the jobs he has gone for since Spurs got rid
posted on 11/2/15
in fairness if i remember correctly i think it was sherwood who drove to birmingham to collect bentaleb and thrash out a deal with birmingham as they had tecnically signed him.
i think the problem is that sherwood had so much power at spurs as he was a footballing director (so above the head coach) so these days people want a head coach but sherwood wants to be a manager and control it all.
i thought ferdy called the shots at qpr but obviously the erratic fernandes still has a say in things.
posted on 11/2/15
Sherwood should get credit for bentalab and a certain extent kane that is certain but he's a novice and certainly Dosent have a right to be thrashing around all these terms. He should feel lucky to have so many offers for someone with no experience
posted on 11/2/15
comment by Genius Greaves is 100% behind Poch! (U1302)
posted 49 seconds ago
Chronic,
redknapp got the boot for off field stuff too I reckon
================
The key words in that are "i reckon".
I know this is an opinion forum - and you are entitled to your opinion - but these allegations you are posting are probably not true at all.
Cobblers & you know it Chicken.
Redknapp was sacked after making derogatory comments about both Levy & the Board, he was stupid enough to make these within earshot of two of Spur's Directors. Levy was on compassionate leave after his mother died.
When Joe Lewis heard about this he gave the order to terminate Redknapp's contract.
With regard to your "hero" Sherwood, the reason he was unsuccessful at QPR was apparently over money. Sherwood wanted a "big guaranteed survival bonus" and was told no.
QPR face a £48m fine if they are regulated for breaching Football League finance fair play rules, when they were last in the Championship
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not to mention the fact that in or around Feb-March he denied that his contract situation (1 year left on his deal) had no impact on the players as "they don't care who the manager is, they just focus on the games itself", which was roughly around the time Spurs were 3rd and he thought the England job was in the bag....
Fast forward to May after he's finished 4th and been snubbed for the England job and all of a sudden he's after a new deal as it would eradicate any uncertainty amongst the players as to whether he'll be there or not.
As for Dim Sherwood, maybe his over-inflated opinion of himself means he's expecting chairmen to beg him to take over their team on the basis that he managed to recover from 3-0 down at west Brom in 15 mins to snatch a draw. What a mug.
No point in wasting your energies on Chicken anyway lads, he's a waste of oxygen.
posted on 11/2/15
i think the problem is that sherwood had so much power at spurs as he was a footballing director (so above the head coach) so these days people want a head coach but sherwood wants to be a manager and control it all.
---
It'd be fine him controlling it all if he knew what he was doing. Having the right (necessary) qualifications would be a good start. A bit of experience in actually coaching a team would be good too.
Regardless of his good work behind the scenes, and apparently it was good, that does not make him ready or suitable to be Spurs coach. Much less manager with full control of signings etc.. cos he got Bentaleb to come along for a trial?
What about all the youngsters we missed out on or have been average.. does he get the blame for those?
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