Or another way to look at it is that Roach (like yourself) has no confidence in Manny's ability so is trying to push the ref into being biased towards Floyd by stating rubbish. (Fergie used to do it all the time in the footy, fortunately the fans cottoned onto this so took no notice)
We just want a fair fight.
Real boxing want it.
Fanboys don't
Nah, you just want to make as many excuses as you can so you can have a nice big if your boy gets beat and still have an excuse in your feeble little mind.
Even Ortiz is smarter than you
Roach is asking for it, I was just ahead of the game.
Hopefully we get a fair decision when this fight inevitably goes to the cards.
The fact that Bradley won a decision over Pacquiao in a fight where most people would agree that Bradley barely won a round is a major concern.
I just hope we see a fair fight and when this fight goes down to the judges (which it will) that they get it right. I'd like to think that most people would agree with that.
As I think we've both pointed out Superb, if it's anywhere near close it'll be a draw (the money made from the rematch will ensure that)
Other than that, both fighters have had dodgy scorecards against them in Vegas so the chance of it being fair is very good.
People moaning about the ref or the judges being fair (constantly) are just getting excuses ready.
I did want Manny to win (cause lets be honest, Floyd is just a twt of the highest order) but I now want Floyd to win just to watch the meltdown on here
Mayweather will win by TKO in round 10 so nothing to worry about
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
It's fair to say that Floyd does like to clinch a lot against some styles of fighters. The Hatton fight is one that springs to mind.
It's fair to assume also that this will be one tactic that he may want to utilise looking at the style of his opponent.
I see no problem in Roach asking for a ref the ref to let the fight flow, instead of pulling the fighters apart at the time, because Floyd is holding on.
I'm glad he's done it, because an over zealous ref could spoil this fight.
The judges are less of a concern because people will judge the fight themselves. A dubious decision, will undoubtedly lead to a rematch.
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 49 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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It was you that brought up the example of Bradley/Paq matchup ....... aww diddums
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 second ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 49 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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It was you that brought up the example of Bradley/Paq matchup ....... aww diddums
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emmmm it was actually not you !!! was Superb ... apologies !!!!
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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you've so far mentioned Judges, Refs, Steroids, cheating, coaches and size as an excuse for why Manny won't win.
I find it really sad that someone who pertains to say Manny is the best ever does not have the confidence that his OTL can win and has to come up with excuses BEFORE it's even started.
I did want Manny to win (cause lets be honest, Floyd is just a twt of the highest order) but I now want Floyd to win just to watch the meltdown on here
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Really? I've had you down as favouring Floyd more since the beginning.
I don't think that there will be any meltdown on this board if Floyd wins. Most people here are saying Floyd will win and he's by far bookies favourite to win so I don't think there will be much of a surprise from the vast majority here if Floyd wins.
If Pacquiao wins the only person who'll be able to show his face on this board is D4. The boxing board would become a ghost town
comment by derbymanc (U18914)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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you've so far mentioned Judges, Refs, Steroids, cheating, coaches and size as an excuse for why Manny won't win.
I find it really sad that someone who pertains to say Manny is the best ever does not have the confidence that his OTL can win and has to come up with excuses BEFORE it's even started.
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yup it aint even exclusive to this forum seems to be the trending theme. Very little seems to be coming from the Flomo's to be honest .. ie. judging, refs etc... is this the pactards subconsciously admitting they know their man is up against it. I watched an extended interview with B-hop on the match up and he very slightly favours Floyd as he is the one who can adjust the most in the fight and is the smarter boxer of the two.
Nope Superb, that's only cause you listen to what D4 puts about anyone who disagrees with him.
Cannot stand him (Floyd, not D4) but you do have to give credit where it's due and while he's a horrible person, he's a fantastic boxer.
I think the boxing board would grow to be honest, but who knows we might get to find out soon.
I've got £50 on pacman UD roach is right in saying 5 years ago it was a harder fight for manny even 2 years ago but 38 is old for boxing
Most people are saying Floyd wins the fight so if he does then I'd imagine there will simply be a lot of back patting afterwards on this board and we probably won't see D4 for a while. That's all.
Cannot stand him (Floyd, not D4) but you do have to give credit where it's due and while he's a horrible person, he's a fantastic boxer.
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Agreed.
But can you imagine how unbearable Floyd and his Flomos will be if they win this fight?? If they're all saying TBE now what's it going to be like of Floyd beats Manny??
I can assure you it will be sickening. That's why I want Manny to win the fight even though I think Floyd will win it for various reasons.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
Most people are saying Floyd wins the fight so if he does then I'd imagine there will simply be a lot of back patting afterwards on this board and we probably won't see D4 for a while. That's all.
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Oh you will see D4 on here in a heartbeat .... Manny's shoes were 2 sizes too small, the ref let Mayweather low blow all night, Manny's water inbetween rounds was replaced with Marquez' pi$$ etc...
In many ways the Pactards d annoy me just as much as the Flomos but if Manny wins then I'm pretty sure that the Pactards will be far more gracious than the Flomos who will probably break the Internet with their BS
Roach and I ask for a fair and a clean fight and the fanboys call that excuses.
You think that the bare minimum what you should be asking for.
Where did you put £50 on the UD to, what were the odds.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
In many ways the Pactards d annoy me just as much as the Flomos but if Manny wins then I'm pretty sure that the Pactards will be far more gracious than the Flomos who will probably break the Internet with their BS
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You and I both know they're as bad as each other, the only thing is that so far I haven't seen any excuses being made by anyone other than Manny's Camp and Manny's fans.
Roach is worried too or he wouldn't have to come out with that BS, he said a few weeks back that he had the perfect gameplan to beat Floyd, now he's saying he needs the help of the ref to do it
Hopefully once this is done and the dust has settled, everything will calm down (once the excuses have been exhausted) and we can talk about the sport we all proclaim to follow.
Roach is worried too or he wouldn't have to come out with that BS, he said a few weeks back that he had the perfect gameplan to beat Floyd, now he's saying he needs the help of the ref to do it
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I'm not sure we should look into that too much. He's probably just concerned about a repeat of the Bradley robbery, which if we're all being honest was an outright disgrace. But then again surely nobody wants to see that.
But then he would have mentioned the judges Supes not the ref.
As I stated before I think it's Roach trying to get a little physcological edge as he's not quite sure how to get through Floyd's defence.
Either way it should be a good fight and either fans shouldn't be making excuses until it's all over and someone is standing with his hand raised in the ring.
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posted on 17/3/15
Or another way to look at it is that Roach (like yourself) has no confidence in Manny's ability so is trying to push the ref into being biased towards Floyd by stating rubbish. (Fergie used to do it all the time in the footy, fortunately the fans cottoned onto this so took no notice)
posted on 17/3/15
We just want a fair fight.
Real boxing want it.
Fanboys don't
posted on 17/3/15
Nah, you just want to make as many excuses as you can so you can have a nice big if your boy gets beat and still have an excuse in your feeble little mind.
Even Ortiz is smarter than you
posted on 17/3/15
Roach is asking for it, I was just ahead of the game.
posted on 18/3/15
Hopefully we get a fair decision when this fight inevitably goes to the cards.
The fact that Bradley won a decision over Pacquiao in a fight where most people would agree that Bradley barely won a round is a major concern.
I just hope we see a fair fight and when this fight goes down to the judges (which it will) that they get it right. I'd like to think that most people would agree with that.
posted on 18/3/15
As I think we've both pointed out Superb, if it's anywhere near close it'll be a draw (the money made from the rematch will ensure that)
Other than that, both fighters have had dodgy scorecards against them in Vegas so the chance of it being fair is very good.
People moaning about the ref or the judges being fair (constantly) are just getting excuses ready.
I did want Manny to win (cause lets be honest, Floyd is just a twt of the highest order) but I now want Floyd to win just to watch the meltdown on here
posted on 18/3/15
Mayweather will win by TKO in round 10 so nothing to worry about
posted on 18/3/15
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
posted on 18/3/15
It's fair to say that Floyd does like to clinch a lot against some styles of fighters. The Hatton fight is one that springs to mind.
It's fair to assume also that this will be one tactic that he may want to utilise looking at the style of his opponent.
I see no problem in Roach asking for a ref the ref to let the fight flow, instead of pulling the fighters apart at the time, because Floyd is holding on.
I'm glad he's done it, because an over zealous ref could spoil this fight.
The judges are less of a concern because people will judge the fight themselves. A dubious decision, will undoubtedly lead to a rematch.
posted on 18/3/15
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 49 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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It was you that brought up the example of Bradley/Paq matchup ....... aww diddums
posted on 18/3/15
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 second ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 49 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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It was you that brought up the example of Bradley/Paq matchup ....... aww diddums
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emmmm it was actually not you !!! was Superb ... apologies !!!!
posted on 18/3/15
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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you've so far mentioned Judges, Refs, Steroids, cheating, coaches and size as an excuse for why Manny won't win.
I find it really sad that someone who pertains to say Manny is the best ever does not have the confidence that his OTL can win and has to come up with excuses BEFORE it's even started.
posted on 18/3/15
I did want Manny to win (cause lets be honest, Floyd is just a twt of the highest order) but I now want Floyd to win just to watch the meltdown on here
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Really? I've had you down as favouring Floyd more since the beginning.
I don't think that there will be any meltdown on this board if Floyd wins. Most people here are saying Floyd will win and he's by far bookies favourite to win so I don't think there will be much of a surprise from the vast majority here if Floyd wins.
If Pacquiao wins the only person who'll be able to show his face on this board is D4. The boxing board would become a ghost town
posted on 18/3/15
comment by derbymanc (U18914)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 53 minutes ago
Ref not judges. Seems like a lot of you got Mayweather reading skills
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you've so far mentioned Judges, Refs, Steroids, cheating, coaches and size as an excuse for why Manny won't win.
I find it really sad that someone who pertains to say Manny is the best ever does not have the confidence that his OTL can win and has to come up with excuses BEFORE it's even started.
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yup it aint even exclusive to this forum seems to be the trending theme. Very little seems to be coming from the Flomo's to be honest .. ie. judging, refs etc... is this the pactards subconsciously admitting they know their man is up against it. I watched an extended interview with B-hop on the match up and he very slightly favours Floyd as he is the one who can adjust the most in the fight and is the smarter boxer of the two.
posted on 18/3/15
Nope Superb, that's only cause you listen to what D4 puts about anyone who disagrees with him.
Cannot stand him (Floyd, not D4) but you do have to give credit where it's due and while he's a horrible person, he's a fantastic boxer.
I think the boxing board would grow to be honest, but who knows we might get to find out soon.
posted on 18/3/15
I've got £50 on pacman UD roach is right in saying 5 years ago it was a harder fight for manny even 2 years ago but 38 is old for boxing
posted on 18/3/15
Most people are saying Floyd wins the fight so if he does then I'd imagine there will simply be a lot of back patting afterwards on this board and we probably won't see D4 for a while. That's all.
posted on 18/3/15
Cannot stand him (Floyd, not D4) but you do have to give credit where it's due and while he's a horrible person, he's a fantastic boxer.
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Agreed.
But can you imagine how unbearable Floyd and his Flomos will be if they win this fight?? If they're all saying TBE now what's it going to be like of Floyd beats Manny??
I can assure you it will be sickening. That's why I want Manny to win the fight even though I think Floyd will win it for various reasons.
posted on 18/3/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 minutes ago
Most people are saying Floyd wins the fight so if he does then I'd imagine there will simply be a lot of back patting afterwards on this board and we probably won't see D4 for a while. That's all.
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Oh you will see D4 on here in a heartbeat .... Manny's shoes were 2 sizes too small, the ref let Mayweather low blow all night, Manny's water inbetween rounds was replaced with Marquez' pi$$ etc...
posted on 18/3/15
In many ways the Pactards d annoy me just as much as the Flomos but if Manny wins then I'm pretty sure that the Pactards will be far more gracious than the Flomos who will probably break the Internet with their BS
posted on 18/3/15
Roach and I ask for a fair and a clean fight and the fanboys call that excuses.
You think that the bare minimum what you should be asking for.
posted on 18/3/15
Where did you put £50 on the UD to, what were the odds.
posted on 18/3/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 8 minutes ago
In many ways the Pactards d annoy me just as much as the Flomos but if Manny wins then I'm pretty sure that the Pactards will be far more gracious than the Flomos who will probably break the Internet with their BS
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You and I both know they're as bad as each other, the only thing is that so far I haven't seen any excuses being made by anyone other than Manny's Camp and Manny's fans.
Roach is worried too or he wouldn't have to come out with that BS, he said a few weeks back that he had the perfect gameplan to beat Floyd, now he's saying he needs the help of the ref to do it
Hopefully once this is done and the dust has settled, everything will calm down (once the excuses have been exhausted) and we can talk about the sport we all proclaim to follow.
posted on 18/3/15
Roach is worried too or he wouldn't have to come out with that BS, he said a few weeks back that he had the perfect gameplan to beat Floyd, now he's saying he needs the help of the ref to do it
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I'm not sure we should look into that too much. He's probably just concerned about a repeat of the Bradley robbery, which if we're all being honest was an outright disgrace. But then again surely nobody wants to see that.
posted on 18/3/15
But then he would have mentioned the judges Supes not the ref.
As I stated before I think it's Roach trying to get a little physcological edge as he's not quite sure how to get through Floyd's defence.
Either way it should be a good fight and either fans shouldn't be making excuses until it's all over and someone is standing with his hand raised in the ring.
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