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And how successful would LVG have been had he not been able to spend lots of money, and had Europa to deal with, or other competitions that he went out early in?

Weare, I can see that you're no longer a fan of Poch then?

Still got to give him the benefit of the doubt. Time + his own players and let's see what happens.

everyone was sucking poch off after we beat Chelsea on new years day

I just read this

Earlier in the year, Spurs’ season looked to be ending with success.
There was the League Cup Final and a chance of silverware, and a top four place looked well within their grasp as a number of other teams struggled.
Harry Kane had broken onto the scene and was scoring for fun, whilst the entire first-team were showing the benefits of intense fitness training with a number of late goals and high-pressing performances.
However, recently the form has fallen away, and they have just one win in their last four games - a 4-3 over struggling Leicester - with the last two games against Burnley and Aston Villa being complete un-noteworthy.
It appears as if the Lilywhites season is all-but over, and with little to play for they are happy to coast along until the end of the campaign.
This may be true, but the reality of Spurs’ loss in form can be seen in Mauricio Pochettino’s previous seasons as a manager.
Last year, with Southampton, Pochettino seemed to be leading the Saints to Europe in the first half of the season.
Yet as soon as the last months came around, it appeared as if fatigue hit the playing squad, and they could do little to prevent their slide into eighth place.
It is down to Pochettino’s system, which for so much of the season requires high-pressing and limitless energy. When at peak fitness the players can fulfil their roles perfectly, but now they are struggling as they cannot match their previous performances levels.
This is the same problem that Pochettino’s mentor, Marcelo Bielsa, has always discovered.
Despite Bielsa winning a cult following and a host of personal plaudits, he has not claimed a league trophy since 1998, and his sides are well known to be pace-setters who drop off in the second half of the season.
They cannot keep up the intensity that is required of them, and although Pochettino is less eccentric that Bielsa, the work ethic is still the same.
Maybe next season Spurs will be able to break through this barrier and keep up their impressive form for the entire season, but it is hard to see such a change taking place.
The squad is too small to realistically challenge for a league title, and until Spurs purchase back-up players of a good enough quality to challenge for the first-team, they will always suffer with this late season collapse.

yep...very fair stateent...a good few on here...including myself mentioned that poch' saints seemed to gas lata stage's of the season....

makes sense to me messiah.. but people are so quick to rule out fatigue.. and I don't know why.

there is no doubt that the intense pressing of early and mid season has dropped off.

I don't think it's a matter of ability alone, confidence and morale are huge factors because a team of lesser players can beat a team of all stars if the former's morale is high and the latter's is low.

I won't bother to correct you We are.

i think its probably....the factor of....

'money they earn...and they tired......'

much the same as the attitude of old towrds depression....'how can so and so be depressed with all that money......'

surely everyone knew our luck would run out, we was relying on either kane or Erikson scoring, if they don't I'm not sure who will...bit dry init..

Chronic, I posted about Poch and inconsistency earlier in the thread.

I posted that too earlier in the thread Hombre, our luck has run out.

Chronic, what would you prefer to read and hear,"Spurs boss Frank deBoer" or "Spurs boss Mauriccio Pochettino?" at the start of news bulletins and tv comments? I know what I'd prefer to hear.

we have to accept our lot, we are Spurs and will always be a long shot at getting a top top name manager in, we're likely to be medoicre for years to come with the odd flutter of success, if you don't like that you might wanna get out now

i jest of course..

Probably due to our leader and best player being a boyhood Arsenal fan. The players look up to him, and if he isn't even committed with Spurs, they wonder what the point is.

comment by Chickasaw (U18560)
posted 56 minutes ago
Maybe earlier we were punching above our weight and had a lot of luck with late winners etc and now the true form is coming through because our luck has run out. Pooch's new isn't he and we don't yet know what his traditions are. Maybe his teams are inconsistent, maybe we've already seen the best of him, who knows.
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No maybe about it, we accumulated far more points than we deserved earlier in the season and now the luck is evening itself out. Put simply, we have been average at best in all but a handful of games this campaign.

Chickasaw

Maybe earlier we were punching above our weight and had a lot of luck with late winners etc and now the true form is coming through because our luck has run out.

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I agree with this. I got shot down for saying we didn’t play well in the win against QPR, but as usual certain posters just look at the end result and accuse you of being negative.

The fact is, we have won so many games where we simply didn’t deserve to (I appreciate other clubs do too but this article is about us so I don’t care about others).

There are less than a handful of league games where I have walked away thinking we deserved the win.

I think Poch started believing our own press and thought we could turn any game around in the last 80 minutes.

Making Kane captain is honestly one of the most amateur moves I have seen from any manager outside of school football. Genuinely pathetic.

You have an average manager, and an average team.

Look at the teams above you. How many of your players would get into their teams? Not one. They're all superior to you in every way. Plus, they don't have Daniel Levy killing their club from the inside.

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 21 minutes ago
Probably due to our leader and best player being a boyhood Arsenal fan. The players look up to him, and if he isn't even committed with Spurs, they wonder what the point is.
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Just coz he had an Arsenal shirt on all the time as a kid, doesn't mean he supported them.

He might've just liked the design!!!

In no particular order I'd say.....

Strength in depth:
The obvious one. If you were to ask every single Spurs fan on here who they'd flog in an ideal world in the summer, you'd get an accumulative list of about 12 names! If we're saying that 12/27 or however many players we've got need to be moved on, we've got a real problem.

I was looking at that lot down the road's squad the other day. I know they often have injuries, but if they somehow kept everyone fit this is how the respective benches could compare:

Chesney - Vorm
Gabriel - Fazio
Gibbs - Davies
Wilshere - Stambouli
Oxlade Chamberlain - Paulinho
Walcott - Lamela
Welbeck - Soldado

Their bench is actually decent and they have options to change a game. Ours?


Poch:
I'll cut him some slack as it's his first season and not yet 'his' squad, but he doesn't seem able or willing to change tactic or react quickly enough when things aren't going to plan. We're simply not good enough to just 'play our game', so he needs to be more decisive in rectifying the situation.

Mentality within the squad:
It's been said a whole host of times, but we have no real leaders in the squad and are far too inexperienced for my liking. Anyone can play well when it's all good, but it's when the chips are down that's when the strong step up and the weak crumble.

comment by Chicken (If Carlsberg did consistent posters...) (U1043)
posted 1 minute ago
Chickasaw

Maybe earlier we were punching above our weight and had a lot of luck with late winners etc and now the true form is coming through because our luck has run out.

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I agree with this. I got shot down for saying we didn’t play well in the win against QPR, but as usual certain posters just look at the end result and accuse you of being negative.

The fact is, we have won so many games where we simply didn’t deserve to (I appreciate other clubs do too but this article is about us so I don’t care about others).

There are less than a handful of league games where I have walked away thinking we deserved the win.

I think Poch started believing our own press and thought we could turn any game around in the last 80 minutes.

Making Kane captain is honestly one of the most amateur moves I have seen from any manager outside of school football. Genuinely pathetic.

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I was also accused of negativity after pointing out how lucky we were to beat QPR and how underwhelmed I was by the 2nd half of Lc final.

I think its taken some people on here a bit too long to work out that we aren't very good. However now you have welcome aboard.

lots of people giving the problems..... not many solutions yet, which the article asks for.....

Totally agree with you Chicken, totally. As for those who shot you down, they missed. I never listen to them because often they are the ones who are proved wrong.

comment by Chickasaw (U18560)
posted 38 seconds ago
Totally agree with you Chicken, totally. As for those who shot you down, they missed. I never listen to them because often they are the ones who are proved wrong.
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Spot on!

Solution is to re-hire BMJ as he is the only great manager Spurs have ever had.