Good point well made SAF. The other SAF had 3 years and near failure before it clicked.
comment by White Hengy Lane (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy
Do you think we should be finishing above Chelsea, City, Utd & Arsenal?
All much bigger teams with huge revenues of money coming in compared to us.
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I actually think we are boxing above our weight Hengy so a good job all in all.
Shortback
I think we are exactly where we should be between 5th and 7th.
Especially as we've done it with one of the youngest used squads in Europe.
Hopefully we put in a few more good performances to get 5th.
Tbh the other team above you Liverpool has spent huge amounts as well, the only team you might finish below whose budget doesn't blow you out the water is Southampton's and you would say their managr has done an incredible job.
White Hengy Lane
Sandy
Do you think we should be finishing above Chelsea, City, Utd & Arsenal?
All much bigger teams with huge revenues of money coming in compared to us.
Why not, Spurs have finished above all of those clubs bar Arsenal in recent memory. So to say they cannot is basically saying that Spurs will never again get to top four, so may as well just pack it in. Even last season they finished above United.
Spurs are batting from a position of somewhere aroundabout 5th/6th/7th, so not unreasonable with a bit of decent management to not be able to go the next step.
Even this season half a dozen points of Palace, West Ham, WBA and Villa at home would have given them a chance.
The top clubs may have an absolute advantage over Spurs of huge revenues, but frankly they are not hugely out of sight playing wise, Spurs showed they are more than capable of beating both Chelsea and Arsenal, even last week against City they were unlucky not to win that game.
To say they cannot ever compete with the top teams is absolute defeatist. Whilst I agree the modern game is about money when it comes to winning trophies, it should still not stop Spurs from competing.
Good post sandy
Whilst i agree we CAN beat those teams in one of matches we cannot beat them for form over a 38 game period as our squad is inferior to them bar an anomaly like United last season.
While catching and over taking these teams should be our aim it shouldn't take away that we have had a decent season this year overall.
The big question is can we build on this season and bridge the gap against those teams year on year
We simply lack consistency. Get that, even if it only secures a 5 or 6th place finish we know we should be able to build on it.
comment by ShortBack&Sides (U17757)
posted 46 minutes ago
We simply lack consistency. Get that, even if it only secures a 5 or 6th place finish we know we should be able to build on it.
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spurs have never had consistency. that is why we are traditionally a cup team.
our league record over the years is just a bit of a joke to be honest.
its a bit of a shambles to be honest.
in our 135 ish years of existence, how many properly good league sides have we had? 10? maybe 12?
its a joke.
2 titles. what is it, 4 runners up medals? nonsense.
we will always back em though Chronic.
Chronic, how are things at Spurs lately? LOL
Team selection's are a bit conservative at times but only to be expected from a still young and relatively green manager, his new approach has led to a liberal sprinkling of youth throughout the team although his early labours in persevering with Ade were ultimately shown to be a complete Milliband.
Poch's clearly gone balls out to achieve his best with positive early results on the left wing, right wing and even at times in the centre ground.
A work in progress, give him five more years
326/350
aye poch. sort out the defence you caaaant or you are going down to a 6
I think anything above 5 is extremely generous
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
I'd honestly mark him down after today. Gave him a 6.5 and would drop that to a 6 after perhaps our worst result of the season.
comment by theRC (U20472)
posted 16 minutes ago
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
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so arsey. at the start of the season what were your expectations? if you were part of the 5th - 7th and a cup run… then how can you say poch has performed below par?
thats how i reasoned it… par is a 7 in my books.. this season has been par.. nothing more, nothing less.
had he gone below expectations he would have a 6 or a 5 from me….
if we had gone above expectations, maybe a top 4, he would have a 8 or 9 ….
sounds fair to me.
I don't believe for a second I would have said 7th was acceptable. I probably said 5th would be fine.
I don't think we will get that.
It's not just the table though. The performances are now very, very worrying. Worse than AVB.
It's not just the table though. The performances are now very, very worrying. Worse than AVB.
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Thats exactly how I feel as well, a lucky cup run and a dreadful showing in the final do not convince me one little bit.
poch a solid first season.
my 7/10 seems fair
comment by theRC (U20472)
posted 2 weeks ago
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
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what was that you dopey mug?
but when redknapp finished 5th you were tonguing his arseeeehole
chronic let me put a totally hypothetical idea to you ok.
You dont miss a game all season and we have signed a new striker say his name is John Smith.
John Smith scores once every game in the premier league but misses 8 easy chances every game including 8 penalties.
Thise missed easy chances cost us countless points but John Smith has actually scored 38 goals in the prem this season.
He would win the golden boot and be the highest prem scorer ever in a single season.
Would that make him a great striker even tho he missed at least 8 easy chances every game and a number of penalties?
When somebody who did not watch every game told you what a great striker he was because of his 38 goals being a record would you agree with him having seen him MISS 8 easy chances a game and a number of penalties
Or would you say "I have seen every game and he is rubbish he needs 9 chances to score once"?
Thats what stats do there is nothing like your own eyes for making a decision and in a weak premier league we were still poor for 90% of it and I dont care where we finished in the league thats the facts of the matter
As I said earlier anything above a 5 is to much for what I have seen this season and one or tow decent performances wont change my mind
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posted on 8/5/15
Good point well made SAF. The other SAF had 3 years and near failure before it clicked.
posted on 8/5/15
comment by White Hengy Lane (U9129)
posted 5 minutes ago
Sandy
Do you think we should be finishing above Chelsea, City, Utd & Arsenal?
All much bigger teams with huge revenues of money coming in compared to us.
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I actually think we are boxing above our weight Hengy so a good job all in all.
posted on 8/5/15
Shortback
I think we are exactly where we should be between 5th and 7th.
Especially as we've done it with one of the youngest used squads in Europe.
Hopefully we put in a few more good performances to get 5th.
posted on 8/5/15
Tbh the other team above you Liverpool has spent huge amounts as well, the only team you might finish below whose budget doesn't blow you out the water is Southampton's and you would say their managr has done an incredible job.
posted on 8/5/15
White Hengy Lane
Sandy
Do you think we should be finishing above Chelsea, City, Utd & Arsenal?
All much bigger teams with huge revenues of money coming in compared to us.
Why not, Spurs have finished above all of those clubs bar Arsenal in recent memory. So to say they cannot is basically saying that Spurs will never again get to top four, so may as well just pack it in. Even last season they finished above United.
Spurs are batting from a position of somewhere aroundabout 5th/6th/7th, so not unreasonable with a bit of decent management to not be able to go the next step.
Even this season half a dozen points of Palace, West Ham, WBA and Villa at home would have given them a chance.
The top clubs may have an absolute advantage over Spurs of huge revenues, but frankly they are not hugely out of sight playing wise, Spurs showed they are more than capable of beating both Chelsea and Arsenal, even last week against City they were unlucky not to win that game.
To say they cannot ever compete with the top teams is absolute defeatist. Whilst I agree the modern game is about money when it comes to winning trophies, it should still not stop Spurs from competing.
posted on 8/5/15
Good post sandy
Whilst i agree we CAN beat those teams in one of matches we cannot beat them for form over a 38 game period as our squad is inferior to them bar an anomaly like United last season.
While catching and over taking these teams should be our aim it shouldn't take away that we have had a decent season this year overall.
The big question is can we build on this season and bridge the gap against those teams year on year
posted on 8/5/15
We simply lack consistency. Get that, even if it only secures a 5 or 6th place finish we know we should be able to build on it.
posted on 8/5/15
comment by ShortBack&Sides (U17757)
posted 46 minutes ago
We simply lack consistency. Get that, even if it only secures a 5 or 6th place finish we know we should be able to build on it.
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spurs have never had consistency. that is why we are traditionally a cup team.
our league record over the years is just a bit of a joke to be honest.
posted on 8/5/15
hard to argue with fella
posted on 8/5/15
its a bit of a shambles to be honest.
in our 135 ish years of existence, how many properly good league sides have we had? 10? maybe 12?
its a joke.
2 titles. what is it, 4 runners up medals? nonsense.
posted on 8/5/15
we will always back em though Chronic.
posted on 8/5/15
And so we should
posted on 8/5/15
Chronic, how are things at Spurs lately? LOL
posted on 9/5/15
Team selection's are a bit conservative at times but only to be expected from a still young and relatively green manager, his new approach has led to a liberal sprinkling of youth throughout the team although his early labours in persevering with Ade were ultimately shown to be a complete Milliband.
Poch's clearly gone balls out to achieve his best with positive early results on the left wing, right wing and even at times in the centre ground.
A work in progress, give him five more years
326/350
posted on 9/5/15
its a 7 from me.....
posted on 9/5/15
aye poch. sort out the defence you caaaant or you are going down to a 6
posted on 9/5/15
I think anything above 5 is extremely generous
posted on 10/5/15
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
posted on 10/5/15
I'd honestly mark him down after today. Gave him a 6.5 and would drop that to a 6 after perhaps our worst result of the season.
posted on 10/5/15
comment by theRC (U20472)
posted 16 minutes ago
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
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so arsey. at the start of the season what were your expectations? if you were part of the 5th - 7th and a cup run… then how can you say poch has performed below par?
thats how i reasoned it… par is a 7 in my books.. this season has been par.. nothing more, nothing less.
had he gone below expectations he would have a 6 or a 5 from me….
if we had gone above expectations, maybe a top 4, he would have a 8 or 9 ….
sounds fair to me.
posted on 10/5/15
I don't believe for a second I would have said 7th was acceptable. I probably said 5th would be fine.
I don't think we will get that.
It's not just the table though. The performances are now very, very worrying. Worse than AVB.
posted on 11/5/15
It's not just the table though. The performances are now very, very worrying. Worse than AVB.
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Thats exactly how I feel as well, a lucky cup run and a dreadful showing in the final do not convince me one little bit.
posted on 24/5/15
poch a solid first season.
my 7/10 seems fair
posted on 24/5/15
comment by theRC (U20472)
posted 2 weeks ago
7/10
Anything over 5 is bias rubbish.
Time for people just to admit they were wrong about him. Starting with Levy
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what was that you dopey mug?
but when redknapp finished 5th you were tonguing his arseeeehole
posted on 24/5/15
chronic let me put a totally hypothetical idea to you ok.
You dont miss a game all season and we have signed a new striker say his name is John Smith.
John Smith scores once every game in the premier league but misses 8 easy chances every game including 8 penalties.
Thise missed easy chances cost us countless points but John Smith has actually scored 38 goals in the prem this season.
He would win the golden boot and be the highest prem scorer ever in a single season.
Would that make him a great striker even tho he missed at least 8 easy chances every game and a number of penalties?
When somebody who did not watch every game told you what a great striker he was because of his 38 goals being a record would you agree with him having seen him MISS 8 easy chances a game and a number of penalties
Or would you say "I have seen every game and he is rubbish he needs 9 chances to score once"?
Thats what stats do there is nothing like your own eyes for making a decision and in a weak premier league we were still poor for 90% of it and I dont care where we finished in the league thats the facts of the matter
As I said earlier anything above a 5 is to much for what I have seen this season and one or tow decent performances wont change my mind
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