comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 16 minutes ago
Redinhead.
No. I'm saying the idea that ANY club would let the contract of one of their top assets dwindle, is absurd.
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Like Arsenal with RVP
us with Mcmanaman
Chelsea with Cech
Newcastle with Owen
Under the Webster rule, Sterling can buy out the remainder of his contract at Xmas and leave in the January window. Because Liverpool currently pay him peanuts, it will cost him peanuts to do this. Pretty funny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252
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You fail to mention he will not be able to sign for another club until the following season.
I see it from Sterling's point of view but also from Liverpool's.
How often do we hear that a contract isn't worth the paper it's written on and read the debates over over whether the club or player holds holds the cards ?
Football is an odd one.
What other industry are employees 'bought' by one company from another ?
Shouldn't a footballer be allowed to simply resign ?
Some want to abolish 'transfer fees' but how else would the money filter down through the lower leagues.
It's a tough one and the Sterling case is hardly unique.
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 2 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
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How is it different?
The club allowed it to happen.
Redinhead.
No club can force a player to sign a contract. If they know he wants to leave they can try and force his hand in the hope of getting some money for him before his contract expires (eg LFC trying to sell McManaman to Barca), or they can sit back, let the contract expire, and get nothing no money for them when they leave.
The point is, the player holds all the cards.
comment by 李 贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
So he's staring against Stoke then...
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That would be a terrible idea. There's going to be riots on the streets of Liverpool if Sterling plays in the next match, especially if he puts as little effort in as he has been recently. Be hard for that lot to put their trust back in Brentan if he keeps rewarding more play time to a player who is showing no desire at all to be there, just because he's a good player.
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 9 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
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How?
And why have you returned?
And Hi
Why is Brendan wearing a skin tight UnderArmour shirt?
Clubs still allowed them to run down their contract rather than sell them.
Same thing
Is sterling that good that liverpool cant afford to let him leave? I doubt it
not a chance they're gonna let him run down his contract and leave for free
nt by messiahkane (U1399)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is sterling that good that liverpool cant afford to let him leave? I doubt
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He's top quality according to Shortlight.
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 李 贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
So he's staring against Stoke then...
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That would be a terrible idea. There's going to be riots on the streets of Liverpool if Sterling plays in the next match, especially if he puts as little effort in as he has been recently. Be hard for that lot to put their trust back in Brentan if he keeps rewarding more play time to a player who is showing no desire at all to be there, just because he's a good player.
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Sterling's performances haven't been short of effort at all. Most players play at their best when they're happy. Clearly Sterling isn't.
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Redinthehead.
Not the same thing at all. What choice did the clubs have?
It's in everyone's best interest that he play against Stoke and plays well
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 4 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
Not the same thing at all. What choice did the clubs have?
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To sell them
Redinthehead.
You can't sell a player who refuses to leave. That's what Bosman was all about.
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 53 minutes ago
Under the Webster rule, Sterling can buy out the remainder of his contract at Xmas and leave in the January window. Because Liverpool currently pay him peanuts, it will cost him peanuts to do this. Pretty funny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252
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Whats so funny about that??? You ned to get out more.
We only paid £500k for him by the way.
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 1 hour ago
I see it from Sterling's point of view but also from Liverpool's.
How often do we hear that a contract isn't worth the paper it's written on and read the debates over over whether the club or player holds holds the cards ?
Football is an odd one.
What other industry are employees 'bought' by one company from another ?
Shouldn't a footballer be allowed to simply resign ?
Some want to abolish 'transfer fees' but how else would the money filter down through the lower leagues.
It's a tough one and the Sterling case is hardly unique.
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You are aware that Raheem Sterling isn't actually the property of LFC right?
What is paid as a transfer fee, is compesation for the remainder of the contract being bought out essentially.
A club buys the services of a player. Not the actual player themselves.
comment by Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
Brendan needs to start him against Stoke. I hope the Stoke and Liverpool fans unite to rip into the overhyped tw at.
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and you'll never walk alooooooooone
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 3 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
You can't sell a player who refuses to leave. That's what Bosman was all about.
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I don't think this is a worry for us
a club will have to pay compensation to Liverpool. Due to him coming through the academy
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
a club will have to pay compensation to Liverpool. Due to him coming through the academy
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Good point that!
If he wants to degrade as a footballer and run down his contract on 35k a week, then that's his choice!
Cos by there Im confident other youngsters around him would've at very least caught up with him/overtaken him in terms of current ability
I think by taking a metaphorical crap on the Anfield crest he's chosen to walk alone, Pride...
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posted on 22/5/15
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 16 minutes ago
Redinhead.
No. I'm saying the idea that ANY club would let the contract of one of their top assets dwindle, is absurd.
--------
Like Arsenal with RVP
us with Mcmanaman
Chelsea with Cech
Newcastle with Owen
posted on 22/5/15
Under the Webster rule, Sterling can buy out the remainder of his contract at Xmas and leave in the January window. Because Liverpool currently pay him peanuts, it will cost him peanuts to do this. Pretty funny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252
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You fail to mention he will not be able to sign for another club until the following season.
posted on 22/5/15
I see it from Sterling's point of view but also from Liverpool's.
How often do we hear that a contract isn't worth the paper it's written on and read the debates over over whether the club or player holds holds the cards ?
Football is an odd one.
What other industry are employees 'bought' by one company from another ?
Shouldn't a footballer be allowed to simply resign ?
Some want to abolish 'transfer fees' but how else would the money filter down through the lower leagues.
It's a tough one and the Sterling case is hardly unique.
posted on 22/5/15
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 2 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
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How is it different?
The club allowed it to happen.
posted on 22/5/15
Redinhead.
No club can force a player to sign a contract. If they know he wants to leave they can try and force his hand in the hope of getting some money for him before his contract expires (eg LFC trying to sell McManaman to Barca), or they can sit back, let the contract expire, and get nothing no money for them when they leave.
The point is, the player holds all the cards.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by 李 贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
So he's staring against Stoke then...
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That would be a terrible idea. There's going to be riots on the streets of Liverpool if Sterling plays in the next match, especially if he puts as little effort in as he has been recently. Be hard for that lot to put their trust back in Brentan if he keeps rewarding more play time to a player who is showing no desire at all to be there, just because he's a good player.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 9 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
In all those cases it was the player deciding to run down his contract. Sterling case is very different.
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How?
And why have you returned?
And Hi
posted on 22/5/15
Why is Brendan wearing a skin tight UnderArmour shirt?
posted on 22/5/15
Clubs still allowed them to run down their contract rather than sell them.
Same thing
posted on 22/5/15
Is sterling that good that liverpool cant afford to let him leave? I doubt it
not a chance they're gonna let him run down his contract and leave for free
posted on 22/5/15
nt by messiahkane (U1399)
posted 2 minutes ago
Is sterling that good that liverpool cant afford to let him leave? I doubt
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He's top quality according to Shortlight.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 李 贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
So he's staring against Stoke then...
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That would be a terrible idea. There's going to be riots on the streets of Liverpool if Sterling plays in the next match, especially if he puts as little effort in as he has been recently. Be hard for that lot to put their trust back in Brentan if he keeps rewarding more play time to a player who is showing no desire at all to be there, just because he's a good player.
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Sterling's performances haven't been short of effort at all. Most players play at their best when they're happy. Clearly Sterling isn't.
posted on 22/5/15
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 22/5/15
Redinthehead.
Not the same thing at all. What choice did the clubs have?
posted on 22/5/15
It's in everyone's best interest that he play against Stoke and plays well
posted on 22/5/15
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 4 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
Not the same thing at all. What choice did the clubs have?
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To sell them
posted on 22/5/15
Redinthehead.
You can't sell a player who refuses to leave. That's what Bosman was all about.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 53 minutes ago
Under the Webster rule, Sterling can buy out the remainder of his contract at Xmas and leave in the January window. Because Liverpool currently pay him peanuts, it will cost him peanuts to do this. Pretty funny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252
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Whats so funny about that??? You ned to get out more.
We only paid £500k for him by the way.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by Infamous Ninja (U18090)
posted 1 hour ago
I see it from Sterling's point of view but also from Liverpool's.
How often do we hear that a contract isn't worth the paper it's written on and read the debates over over whether the club or player holds holds the cards ?
Football is an odd one.
What other industry are employees 'bought' by one company from another ?
Shouldn't a footballer be allowed to simply resign ?
Some want to abolish 'transfer fees' but how else would the money filter down through the lower leagues.
It's a tough one and the Sterling case is hardly unique.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are aware that Raheem Sterling isn't actually the property of LFC right?
What is paid as a transfer fee, is compesation for the remainder of the contract being bought out essentially.
A club buys the services of a player. Not the actual player themselves.
posted on 22/5/15
comment by Ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
Brendan needs to start him against Stoke. I hope the Stoke and Liverpool fans unite to rip into the overhyped tw at.
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and you'll never walk alooooooooone
posted on 22/5/15
comment by shortlightandugly. "You can't put fourth place on your mantelpiece". (U13938)
posted 3 minutes ago
Redinthehead.
You can't sell a player who refuses to leave. That's what Bosman was all about.
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I don't think this is a worry for us
posted on 22/5/15
a club will have to pay compensation to Liverpool. Due to him coming through the academy
posted on 22/5/15
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
a club will have to pay compensation to Liverpool. Due to him coming through the academy
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Good point that!
If he wants to degrade as a footballer and run down his contract on 35k a week, then that's his choice!
Cos by there Im confident other youngsters around him would've at very least caught up with him/overtaken him in terms of current ability
posted on 22/5/15
I think by taking a metaphorical crap on the Anfield crest he's chosen to walk alone, Pride...
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