I'm glad UEFA are bottling it. The world cup wouldn't be the same without these nations.
Not if there's another party to go too.
A UEFA wide boycott would never happen - especially in a Russian tournament. A coalition of big Western nations and their political allies pulling out is very, very, highly unlikely, but not impossible. England pulling out would just get laughed at. No one gives a toss.
The words from uefa just now are token ones. What I don't get is people thinking now Blatter got voted in that all this is over.
The investigations will bust a lot of people and I'm certain something will lead back to Blatter. Fifa will never be the same again and that is a great thing for football.
Sheriff, it wouldn't just be England. It would be them, Germany,France and Italy among others. Spain and Russia are the only major European nations supporting Blatter.
Don't know why it bothers so many people. At the end of the day, all this corruption malarky has been there for a very long time now.
If something was going to be done, then this vote would have been everyone's way to make sure it happened. Many of these countries would have thought about the votes for weeks, to use this occasion as a way to make change happen. They clearly didn't.
Everyone is in Blatter's pocket and that's the power of the man.
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I fundamentally don't like the idea of going on strike because you don't like the result of a vote. Doesn't feel right, not aligned with the ideas of democracy.
That said, I think FIFA is essentially a cartel and is it justifiable to withdraw to break a cartel?
Personally I think I'd like to see us pull out of the World Cup. Ideally with others but even if we're alone then I wouldn't be against the idea. It may achieve very little in terms of pressure but this is surely a principled decision, the FA either feels it should withdraw or it doesn't. Support of others shouldn't come into it.
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comment by #4zA (U19575)
posted 47 seconds ago
most European nations boycotted the very first world cup in 1930
didnt harm it in the short or long term.
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In 1930 football was largely an amateur sport and the World Cup was a new idea. Now it's a multi billion pound business.
If you don't think removing one of the biggest footballing and merchandising markets from the picture would make a difference then I'm not quite sure what to say to you. It would have a huge impact.
Unfortunately I can't see it happening.
Everyone will have calmed down next week and most countries in Uefa will have changed their minds about boycotting the World Cup.
The UK countries are very vocal about their unhappiness. Even the prime minister has made big statements. The White House made a very diplomatic statement about it's being a decision for FIFA who leads it.
We are always the ones shouting the loudest when decisions go against us, it's no wonder the world hates us so much. Getting only one vote proved that.
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sterling Work (U6997)
posted 50 seconds ago
I fundamentally don't like the idea of going on strike because you don't like the result of a vote. Doesn't feel right, not aligned with the ideas of democracy.
That said, I think FIFA is essentially a cartel and is it justifiable to withdraw to break a cartel?
Personally I think I'd like to see us pull out of the World Cup. Ideally with others but even if we're alone then I wouldn't be against the idea. It may achieve very little in terms of pressure but this is surely a principled decision, the FA either feels it should withdraw or it doesn't. Support of others shouldn't come into it.
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The FA will be bankrupt if they pull out of the FIFA world cup. They need the world cup to survive. The English FA are FIFA'S bi'tches
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The FA income is north of £300m per year and they get money from broadcasting I think so the new TV might help them further?
I'm sure the WC helps enormously but bankrupt? Not sure about that.
A lot of the whole boycott thing is just false bravado, imo. There are very few with any true will to boycott anything. Most of the athletes who couldn't participate in the boycotted Moscow Olympics had deep regrets at the tragic political meddling in sports. It's easier said from an armchair behind a keyboard.
Democracy You pesky Westerners gave birth to it and were kind enough to pass it to us. You are surely not going to go against democracy are you?
comment by Fasheezy (U14359)
posted 35 minutes ago
Everyone will have calmed down next week and most countries in Uefa will have changed their minds about boycotting the World Cup.
The UK countries are very vocal about their unhappiness. Even the prime minister has made big statements. The White House made a very diplomatic statement about it's being a decision for FIFA who leads it.
We are always the ones shouting the loudest when decisions go against us, it's no wonder the world hates us so much. Getting only one vote proved that.
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This
You gotta play the game. It is that simple. Not saying its right or ethical but it is what it is.
Look at how this country is run. The bankers and politicians all in cahoots with each other. Do you think they give two figs about the general public. Have a look at the mess caused in the middle east by the US and the UK. Do you think they did it for the welfare and safety of the UK? They did it for the money.. Its the brutal reality of this world. Its all about money.
The sooner the FA realise they need to play the game instead of throwing strops when they get outhustled by a lesser nation, the better. They're making the mistake of thinking that if England pull out of FIFA or its world cups then the whole tournament will fall apart. It wont.
Politics is a dirty game and always has been and if we want to get all uppity about what FIFA are doing then why dont we first start with our own government. Sort our own corrupt politicians out. Then go after FIFA.
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 1 minute ago
You gotta play the game. It is that simple. Not saying its right or ethical but it is what it is.
Look at how this country is run. The bankers and politicians all in cahoots with each other. Do you think they give two figs about the general public. Have a look at the mess caused in the middle east by the US and the UK. Do you think they did it for the welfare and safety of the UK? They did it for the money.. Its the brutal reality of this world. Its all about money.
The sooner the FA realise they need to play the game instead of throwing strops when they get outhustled by a lesser nation, the better. They're making the mistake of thinking that if England pull out of FIFA or its world cups then the whole tournament will fall apart. It wont.
Politics is a dirty game and always has been and if we want to get all uppity about what FIFA are doing then why dont we first start with our own government. Sort our own corrupt politicians out. Then go after FIFA.
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Exactly
They were upset a lesser nation was given the world cup but were supporting a candidate from an even lesser nation to run world football
The hypocrisy and idiocy is baffling
On what basis will you boycott the world cup? Stupid. Really stupid
You are the idiot Mudd. No one cares that a 'lesser' nation has a world cup. But if that 'lesser' nation hosting the world cup leads to thousands of migrant workers dying then there is a problem.
It's almost offensive that you make some big assumption that because some people have a problem with Qatar hosting a world cup that we're hypocrites for supporting a candidate from the middle east.
Fact - dodgy stuff has gone on at Fifa. Extremely dodgy stuff. So much so that the fbi has gotten involved. Sepp Blatter was in charge while all of this has been going on. He should step down. The fact he's still in charge is a bad thing for football. Anyone that disagrees is either an idiot or at worst a terrible person.
Robb dodgy stuff goes on every day. Your idiotic hatred of Qatar which does not extend to the construction companies who are the ones killing workers typifies the mock outrage and why it is so laughable
Britain with the USA invaded Iraq and murdered hundreds of thousands but they hosted the Olympics
USA and Britain destabilised Libya and Egypt. Thousands dead but we pontificate to others and that is why people hate us
The hypocrisy of our democracy, absolute joke.
"Anyone that disagrees is either an idiot or at worst a terrible person."
I can comfortably say you are both Robb.
I keep asking people. Why did the FBI get involved
They did at the behest of the IRS
Why? Because these guys did not pay taxes on the money they stole. If they did. None of this would happen.
How many bankers are in jail? I cannot believe people are so dumb
Libor scandal what happened? HSBC laundering terrorist money, what happened?
People are so naive
The FA would lose a lot of money from a boycott due to not entering the qualifiers. Which is why they won't.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
The FA would lose a lot of money from a boycott due to not entering the qualifiers. Which is why they won't.
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Dazza it is just a daft thing to do. When the smoke clears, Platini and Co will go and take their share of the loot. They are all in it together.
They wanted to install a puppet they could control. Honestly cannot believe any discerning person buys into this BS
Fack off mudd. I don't 'hate' anyone and have said countless times that the construction companies should be prosecuted. Who would be best to prosecute these construction companies? Um, the people running the country? Are the construction companies being punished? Tell me please?
I seriously can't understand why you need to bring up every crime that every country in the world has committed to back up some weird pro-qatar world cup stance you're behind.
You have no idea what politics I believe in but that isn't really relevant here. The fact is thousands of people are dying to make a world cup happen and for some reason you're trying to justify it. What kind of person that makes you is pretty deplorable.
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posted on 29/5/15
I'm glad UEFA are bottling it. The world cup wouldn't be the same without these nations.
posted on 29/5/15
Not if there's another party to go too.
posted on 29/5/15
A UEFA wide boycott would never happen - especially in a Russian tournament. A coalition of big Western nations and their political allies pulling out is very, very, highly unlikely, but not impossible. England pulling out would just get laughed at. No one gives a toss.
posted on 29/5/15
The words from uefa just now are token ones. What I don't get is people thinking now Blatter got voted in that all this is over.
The investigations will bust a lot of people and I'm certain something will lead back to Blatter. Fifa will never be the same again and that is a great thing for football.
posted on 29/5/15
Sheriff, it wouldn't just be England. It would be them, Germany,France and Italy among others. Spain and Russia are the only major European nations supporting Blatter.
posted on 29/5/15
Don't know why it bothers so many people. At the end of the day, all this corruption malarky has been there for a very long time now.
If something was going to be done, then this vote would have been everyone's way to make sure it happened. Many of these countries would have thought about the votes for weeks, to use this occasion as a way to make change happen. They clearly didn't.
Everyone is in Blatter's pocket and that's the power of the man.
posted on 29/5/15
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posted on 29/5/15
I fundamentally don't like the idea of going on strike because you don't like the result of a vote. Doesn't feel right, not aligned with the ideas of democracy.
That said, I think FIFA is essentially a cartel and is it justifiable to withdraw to break a cartel?
Personally I think I'd like to see us pull out of the World Cup. Ideally with others but even if we're alone then I wouldn't be against the idea. It may achieve very little in terms of pressure but this is surely a principled decision, the FA either feels it should withdraw or it doesn't. Support of others shouldn't come into it.
posted on 29/5/15
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posted on 29/5/15
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posted on 29/5/15
comment by #4zA (U19575)
posted 47 seconds ago
most European nations boycotted the very first world cup in 1930
didnt harm it in the short or long term.
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In 1930 football was largely an amateur sport and the World Cup was a new idea. Now it's a multi billion pound business.
If you don't think removing one of the biggest footballing and merchandising markets from the picture would make a difference then I'm not quite sure what to say to you. It would have a huge impact.
Unfortunately I can't see it happening.
posted on 29/5/15
Everyone will have calmed down next week and most countries in Uefa will have changed their minds about boycotting the World Cup.
The UK countries are very vocal about their unhappiness. Even the prime minister has made big statements. The White House made a very diplomatic statement about it's being a decision for FIFA who leads it.
We are always the ones shouting the loudest when decisions go against us, it's no wonder the world hates us so much. Getting only one vote proved that.
posted on 29/5/15
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sterling Work (U6997)
posted 50 seconds ago
I fundamentally don't like the idea of going on strike because you don't like the result of a vote. Doesn't feel right, not aligned with the ideas of democracy.
That said, I think FIFA is essentially a cartel and is it justifiable to withdraw to break a cartel?
Personally I think I'd like to see us pull out of the World Cup. Ideally with others but even if we're alone then I wouldn't be against the idea. It may achieve very little in terms of pressure but this is surely a principled decision, the FA either feels it should withdraw or it doesn't. Support of others shouldn't come into it.
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The FA will be bankrupt if they pull out of the FIFA world cup. They need the world cup to survive. The English FA are FIFA'S bi'tches
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The FA income is north of £300m per year and they get money from broadcasting I think so the new TV might help them further?
I'm sure the WC helps enormously but bankrupt? Not sure about that.
posted on 29/5/15
A lot of the whole boycott thing is just false bravado, imo. There are very few with any true will to boycott anything. Most of the athletes who couldn't participate in the boycotted Moscow Olympics had deep regrets at the tragic political meddling in sports. It's easier said from an armchair behind a keyboard.
posted on 29/5/15
Democracy You pesky Westerners gave birth to it and were kind enough to pass it to us. You are surely not going to go against democracy are you?
posted on 29/5/15
comment by Fasheezy (U14359)
posted 35 minutes ago
Everyone will have calmed down next week and most countries in Uefa will have changed their minds about boycotting the World Cup.
The UK countries are very vocal about their unhappiness. Even the prime minister has made big statements. The White House made a very diplomatic statement about it's being a decision for FIFA who leads it.
We are always the ones shouting the loudest when decisions go against us, it's no wonder the world hates us so much. Getting only one vote proved that.
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This
posted on 29/5/15
You gotta play the game. It is that simple. Not saying its right or ethical but it is what it is.
Look at how this country is run. The bankers and politicians all in cahoots with each other. Do you think they give two figs about the general public. Have a look at the mess caused in the middle east by the US and the UK. Do you think they did it for the welfare and safety of the UK? They did it for the money.. Its the brutal reality of this world. Its all about money.
The sooner the FA realise they need to play the game instead of throwing strops when they get outhustled by a lesser nation, the better. They're making the mistake of thinking that if England pull out of FIFA or its world cups then the whole tournament will fall apart. It wont.
Politics is a dirty game and always has been and if we want to get all uppity about what FIFA are doing then why dont we first start with our own government. Sort our own corrupt politicians out. Then go after FIFA.
posted on 29/5/15
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 1 minute ago
You gotta play the game. It is that simple. Not saying its right or ethical but it is what it is.
Look at how this country is run. The bankers and politicians all in cahoots with each other. Do you think they give two figs about the general public. Have a look at the mess caused in the middle east by the US and the UK. Do you think they did it for the welfare and safety of the UK? They did it for the money.. Its the brutal reality of this world. Its all about money.
The sooner the FA realise they need to play the game instead of throwing strops when they get outhustled by a lesser nation, the better. They're making the mistake of thinking that if England pull out of FIFA or its world cups then the whole tournament will fall apart. It wont.
Politics is a dirty game and always has been and if we want to get all uppity about what FIFA are doing then why dont we first start with our own government. Sort our own corrupt politicians out. Then go after FIFA.
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Exactly
They were upset a lesser nation was given the world cup but were supporting a candidate from an even lesser nation to run world football
The hypocrisy and idiocy is baffling
On what basis will you boycott the world cup? Stupid. Really stupid
posted on 29/5/15
You are the idiot Mudd. No one cares that a 'lesser' nation has a world cup. But if that 'lesser' nation hosting the world cup leads to thousands of migrant workers dying then there is a problem.
It's almost offensive that you make some big assumption that because some people have a problem with Qatar hosting a world cup that we're hypocrites for supporting a candidate from the middle east.
Fact - dodgy stuff has gone on at Fifa. Extremely dodgy stuff. So much so that the fbi has gotten involved. Sepp Blatter was in charge while all of this has been going on. He should step down. The fact he's still in charge is a bad thing for football. Anyone that disagrees is either an idiot or at worst a terrible person.
posted on 29/5/15
Robb dodgy stuff goes on every day. Your idiotic hatred of Qatar which does not extend to the construction companies who are the ones killing workers typifies the mock outrage and why it is so laughable
Britain with the USA invaded Iraq and murdered hundreds of thousands but they hosted the Olympics
USA and Britain destabilised Libya and Egypt. Thousands dead but we pontificate to others and that is why people hate us
The hypocrisy of our democracy, absolute joke.
posted on 29/5/15
"Anyone that disagrees is either an idiot or at worst a terrible person."
I can comfortably say you are both Robb.
posted on 29/5/15
I keep asking people. Why did the FBI get involved
They did at the behest of the IRS
Why? Because these guys did not pay taxes on the money they stole. If they did. None of this would happen.
How many bankers are in jail? I cannot believe people are so dumb
Libor scandal what happened? HSBC laundering terrorist money, what happened?
People are so naive
posted on 29/5/15
The FA would lose a lot of money from a boycott due to not entering the qualifiers. Which is why they won't.
posted on 29/5/15
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
The FA would lose a lot of money from a boycott due to not entering the qualifiers. Which is why they won't.
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Dazza it is just a daft thing to do. When the smoke clears, Platini and Co will go and take their share of the loot. They are all in it together.
They wanted to install a puppet they could control. Honestly cannot believe any discerning person buys into this BS
posted on 29/5/15
Fack off mudd. I don't 'hate' anyone and have said countless times that the construction companies should be prosecuted. Who would be best to prosecute these construction companies? Um, the people running the country? Are the construction companies being punished? Tell me please?
I seriously can't understand why you need to bring up every crime that every country in the world has committed to back up some weird pro-qatar world cup stance you're behind.
You have no idea what politics I believe in but that isn't really relevant here. The fact is thousands of people are dying to make a world cup happen and for some reason you're trying to justify it. What kind of person that makes you is pretty deplorable.
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