It won't happen because it won't achieve the desired results, would cost them plenty of money and (if they did and the said things happened) they'd look like fools when they went crawling back.

And comparing the UK invading Iraq and hosting an Olympics as the same as people dying in Qatar building a world cup stadium?
. Clueless. You really are.

Qatar's the richest country on earth per person, not a lesser nation. 90% of the population are foreign workers, 2m population, the WC won't leave any legacy there, on top of that thousands of people will die and we're disrupting half the world's football leagues to make it can happen. FIFA made it way too obvious with that one, Russia was probably equally corrupt but they still tick all the boxes you look for in a world cup host.

6th June is D-day. Uefa officials meet up and decide what to do next.

Ironically it actually is D-day

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The fact is thousands of people are dying to make a world cup happen and for some reason you're trying to justify it.
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It isn't a fact, Robb. It's a grossly and libellously inflated figure. Go check the Washington Post article at the source of the graphic that's been reposted and talkd about everywhere. Pay attention to what it says about the figures presented, and then judge for yourself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/05/27/a-body-count-in-qatar-illustrates-the-consequences-of-fifa-corruption/

You're not stupid enough to be so easily manipulated; if you are, then it's only because it suits you.

Actually, I'll post the main bits here. Others might also be interested. I can't re-post the graphics, you'll have to go to the link for that.

"It is hard to know how many of those are specifically World Cup associated. Hundreds of thousands of migrant workers come to Qatar each year, and there could be hundreds of deaths even without a World Cup -- figures from the Indian embassy show, for instance, that 200+ Indian workers died in Qatar in 2010, before the World Cup announcement. But the numbers could also be worse: a report by the International Trade Union Confederation has estimated 1,200 deaths so far, with up to 4,000 additional worker deaths by 2022.

In the chart below, I've compared those fatality numbers for Qatar with worker fatality estimates for other major international sporting events in recent years. Some of these numbers (like Sochi's) are third-party estimates, others (like Beijing's) are based on official numbers that are almost certainly an undercount. And it's tough to do an apples-to-apples comparison here, since the Qatar estimates include the deaths of all migrant workers after the announcement of Qatar's successful bid in 2010, while other countries' figures may only include deaths directly related to, say, stadium construction."

And despite these caveats tucked away at the end of the article, the headline still reads "The human toll of FIFA's corruption", and the graph still goes with "An unprecedented death toll in Qatar", pitting 1 worker death on construction sites for the London Olympics against 4,000 estimated work-related deaths in Qatar. Furthermore, it still misleadingly heading the Qatar portion as "Migrant worker deaths since Dec. 2010", when it's actually estimated figures 2010-2022.



I'm sure even the most anti-Qatar campaigners would have to admit this is a gross misrepresentation.

Wow. Only just noticed the note at the end of the article

"This story has been updated to reflect the fact that figures include total migrant worker deaths in Qatar, not just World Cup-related deaths."

So they did in fact initially try to present the outright number of deaths as true fact. Shocking. Same kind of journalism that spread the Iraq/WMD theory.

Wales and Scotland will boycott the World Cup as usual

A WC in Qatar is an absolute joke ! Boycott it !

ffs ioag

That is some horrible misrepresentation of facts. The bollacks printed by this papers and hysterically swallowed by people on this site is amazing.

So, journalists are as corrupt as Fifa officials?

Q'uel surprise!

So nobody looked at the migrant worker death figures before deciding that Qatar would be a fit and proper place to have a world cup?

As WWSPD keeps pointing out, Qatar failed FIFAs own stress tests.

Answer to original question: Yes, please Also, perhaps, the Russian one, if Putin and his cronies are still in power.

Itsonlyagame

I'm confused to what you're arguing. Are you actually saying that the deaths in Qatar are an acceptable number even if the figures aren't quite as high as some think?

Are you just debating specific numbers as opposed to admitting there's a problem with migrant deaths there which no-one can deny?

A case of 'the media says it's thousands when in reality it's only hundreds' 'silly media '

Come off it Robb
You were the one attributing all the deaths to the world cup saying the world cup will cost more lives than 9/11. Just as when no dirt landed near Blatter when the arrests were made, you are switching goalposts now. Your opinions are not based on facts but on media fed hysteria and you are too dumb to see that.

TCW, allow me first to clarify that I'm a non-denominational European who's dedicated a fair bit of his working life to human rights issues, so my qualms over this issue are no way linked to any religious motivation and are in no way meant to condone human rights abuses, abusive exploitation or appalling working conditions.

I don't think anyone's trying to say occupational safety isn't appalling in Qatar, and if the uproar surrounding the World Cup helps to improve worker safety in Qatar and elsewhere, then at least we could say something good has come of this.

That said...

I can't help but feel there's an underlying issue that's going over many people's heads in the midst of this incessant targeting of Qatar (and FIFA) in the media.

Is the coverage really fuelled by a true concern in the media over corruption issues, worker safety, human rights...?

You see, I seriously doubt it. After all, if it were wouldn't there have been a similar outcry on awarding other recent int'l sporting events such as the Cricket World Cup or the Olympics to places with such infamous worker safety records and/or dubious respect for HR, such as India, Bangladesh, China or Pakistan? Does anyone seriously believe South Africa or other countries were much safer places to work than Qatar? Why are far, far worse human rights and corruption issues fuelled by and involving Western transnational corporations given only a fraction of the media coverage?

All of this makes me suspect there might just be a hidden agenda behind these media campaigns, and that belief is further endorsed when I find articles like the one referenced earlier, based on what are clearly blatant lies.

I don't know if it has to do with frustration borne out of failure to land a World Cup back home, or if it's intentional or unconscious targeting of Muslim/Arab peoples, if there are other political power struggles going on behind the scenes, if it is a combination of some or all of the above, but I certainly smell a rat in here somewhere.

Well, it is Robb, after all. What did you expect?

Don't worry Wump, Robb's goalposts are always set on rails.

Robb, I hadn't read your last post, but I think my last one may answer your questions. The question I'm asking is how much worse they are than those in a number of other places where similar events took place without anywhere near the level of faux media outrage.

"Robb's goalposts are always set on rails."

"Is the coverage really fuelled by a true concern in the media over corruption issues, worker safety, human rights...?"

HELL NO!!!

Sorry, not buying it. Firstly, migrant deaths in Qatar building this world cup is too large to ignore and be pedantic about exact number of deaths. Anyone who says otherwise is immoral and are missing the point in order to further their agenda.

It's been said that I 'hate' Qatar in this thread which is ridiculous. I genuinely don't care which country in the world hosts the world cup - as long as it's safe for the people building it. Which it clearly isn't. Just for clarity, are there people arguing here that people aren't dying building thus world cup at larger numbers than any other one?

And wum patrol, don't know what your issues with me are, I've never even heard of you until yesterday. You seem to be of the opinion that Blatter is a stand up kind of guy which is at best naive and at worst even more immoral. You really don't know what you're on about regarding the shady sides of Fifa and just how much borrowed time Blatter is on

And it's only a game

There was plenty of concern over Brazil hosting the world cup. Don't you remember all the worries about it?

Regarding the media outrage about Qatar, I'd say there isn't enough media coverage about all the deaths. And yes, there are more deaths building this thing than others due to the kafala law. It's primitive and hugely against human rights.