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Firmino signing completed!!

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comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 24/6/15

comment by The Guvnor III V.I.K-We're going to hell so bring your fackin sunblock. (U12889)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 1 minute ago
7 goals in 33 league games last year... why are people acting like he is a huge signing, because he has played a few times for Brazil?
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Apparently a few caps for brazil make you a well known signing.
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and he has a fancy name.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 5 minutes ago
"There finance is fine at the moment."

it's fine to expect to finish 5th

it's not a top4 budget
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To be fair, you've spent a shed load since Daglish came in. Obviously a lot of it came from the sales of Suarez and Torres, but it was still there to spend.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 4 minutes ago
7 goals in 33 league games last year... why are people acting like he is a huge signing, because he has played a few times for Brazil?
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Apparently his season before was a lot better. Think he moved to a more creative role last season.

posted on 24/6/15

comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 2 minutes ago
7 goals in 33 league games last year... why are people acting like he is a huge signing, because he has played a few times for Brazil?
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He's not a huge signing, and 29M sounds a bit too steep, but that's just what the market is these days.
I think he's better than Lallana and would complement Coutinhos ability to play a final ball with his own knack for getting goals from midfield.
He won't take Liverpool a notch above like Suarez did, but is a slight improvement on what they currently have.
Anyone calling him a no mark either is or pretends to be ignorant.

posted on 24/6/15

You're all so predictable I could of written all your posts for you. You mock when we sign freebies, you mock when we spend money

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

His stats in Bundesliga last season:

Games Started: 33
Goals: 7
Assists: 10
Shots: 95
On Target: 29
Fouls: 73
Fouls Against: 34
Yellow Cards: 5
Red Cards - 0

posted on 24/6/15

Contributed to 17 goals last season in 33 games.

Will take that.

posted on 24/6/15

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 5 minutes ago
"There finance is fine at the moment."

it's fine to expect to finish 5th

it's not a top4 budget
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To be fair, you've spent a shed load since Daglish came in. Obviously a lot of it came from the sales of Suarez and Torres, but it was still there to spend.
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If we want to catch up we need to spend like United have for the last 3 seasons. All of which would have been record years for Liverpool. This year alone was double to triple our highest year. You're on the City/Chelsea model.

My expectations are 5th for the foreseeable future but hoping for better. Our modest finances (compared to the top4) can't compete.

We've got a lot of kids in the side though which gives me a roulette sort of excitement.

posted on 24/6/15

For those mancs who are worried about our spending and finances.

Let me give you some info.

We are redeveloping our stadium to 60k which which will get us 50m extra income each year.

The new tv deal is kicking next year or this year.
Our kit deals will go up.
Other commercial deals are been tied up.

FSG are smart bussines people and know what they do.

I will be more worried about your club man united which is 299m in debt.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

How do Liverpool expect to line up? From Youtube (I know) most of his good work seems to come from a central role:

----Firmino---Sturridge----
----------Coutinho------

----------Sturridge----------
-------Firmino--Coutinho---

Or will you shunt one out wide? I suppose if you continue with 3 at the back you can fit all three in centrally,

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 5 minutes ago
"There finance is fine at the moment."

it's fine to expect to finish 5th

it's not a top4 budget
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To be fair, you've spent a shed load since Daglish came in. Obviously a lot of it came from the sales of Suarez and Torres, but it was still there to spend.
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If we want to catch up we need to spend like United have for the last 3 seasons. All of which would have been record years for Liverpool. This year alone was double to triple our highest year. You're on the City/Chelsea model.

My expectations are 5th for the foreseeable future but hoping for better. Our modest finances (compared to the top4) can't compete.

We've got a lot of kids in the side though which gives me a roulette sort of excitement.
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You're probably right. We have spent a lot on rubbish in the past too

comment by IAWT (U10012)

posted on 24/6/15

Julien Laurens ‏@LaurensJulien

I like Firmino but £29m is a lot of money for a player who has never played a single game in the Champions League or even the Europa League.
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You guys are in the Europa league this season. Add the festive period on top that and it is clear that he will need time to adjust to the PL and its high demand.
I wouldn't expect too much too soon.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 24/6/15

He's playing in the Copa America right now though, so wouldn't read too much into that.

Don't think Suarez played CL football either?

posted on 24/6/15

It's good we're getting the deals doen quick, this has been a bug bear for many reds over past season, we díck about then miss out.

Looks like the club have a set list of targets, got the out of contract / young / back up players (Bogdan) done very early, now go for the targets for the first 11 and hopefully have everyone signed before pre season.

If Ian Ayre can get Bacca in too on this trip to Chile it would be brilliant.

posted on 24/6/15

Pathetic, bitter oppo fans..

Involved in 17 goals in 33 games from an attacking midfield position.

Recovered posession once every 30 ish minutes pressing from the front.

If we use him in the diamond he will probably beat the tip with two strikers ahead of him.

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 24/6/15

Recovered posession once every 30 ish minutes pressing from the front.

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I have quite literally never seen anyone use this stat. Ever.

I wasn't criticising the signing, by the way, I was just saying that the '£29m' seems a little high. But if it starts at £21m, then unless he's a major flop, it is pretty much worth it.

posted on 24/6/15

do pool fans realise brasil hand out caps to drive up transfer fees?

posted on 24/6/15

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 3 minutes ago
do pool fans realise brasil hand out caps to drive up transfer fees?
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I did read something about this a few weeks back.. the sponsors choose who they want to see in the brazil team. something like that..

posted on 24/6/15

comment by Giroud ..IN THE BIN!! (U10012)
posted 21 minutes ago
Julien Laurens ‏@LaurensJulien

I like Firmino but £29m is a lot of money for a player who has never played a single game in the Champions League or even the Europa League.
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Who is Julien Laurens?
Having played in CL or Europa League is quite circumstantial, I'd focus more on what he can do on the pitch.
Suarez only ever played the odd CL game but the talent was evident even in Eredivisie. Not saying Firmino is at Suarez's level, only that the relative toughness of the tournament(s) a player plays in cannot be the sole yardstick to measure his individual skill.

posted on 24/6/15

comment by Jay. (U16498)
posted 10 minutes ago
Recovered posession once every 30 ish minutes pressing from the front.

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I have quite literally never seen anyone use this stat. Ever.

I wasn't criticising the signing, by the way, I was just saying that the '£29m' seems a little high. But if it starts at £21m, then unless he's a major flop, it is pretty much worth it.
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I'd concede it's a marginal stat but it gives some added value of describing what a player does off the ball.

posted on 24/6/15

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posted on 24/6/15

Yes he is starting games for Brazil in a major international tournament that they are serious about winning just because the sponsors say so.

Makes sense

posted on 24/6/15

comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 5 seconds ago
Yes he is starting games for Brazil in a major international tournament that they are serious about winning just because the sponsors say so.

Makes sense

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Instead of slapping your head, why dont you read about it.

posted on 24/6/15

comment by The Guvnor III V.I.K-We're going to hell so bring your fackin sunblock. (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 3 minutes ago
do pool fans realise brasil hand out caps to drive up transfer fees?
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I did read something about this a few weeks back.. the sponsors choose who they want to see in the brazil team. something like that..
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It is hardly an achievement to get capped with the current state of brazilian international footy.
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It's not like they have 2M registered players to choose from, is it..

posted on 24/6/15

march_2k (U10336)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Giroud ..IN THE BIN!! (U10012)
posted 21 minutes ago
Julien Laurens ‏@LaurensJulien

I like Firmino but £29m is a lot of money for a player who has never played a single game in the Champions League or even the Europa League.
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Who is Julien Laurens?

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Some French journo

Who has now been christened in Manchester as "The Oracle".

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