Honestly for the past twelve months Ramsey shouldn't be anywhere near our team. He's a fecking idiot concerned about glory than the team. Cannot win thr title with someone that stupid.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
comment by 8bit (U2653)
Ozil's also had very good games with Giroud up front... it's not about buying the players to suit him, the truth is he's the problem. Him losing the ball constantly and disappearing isn't Giroud's fault
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Name them.
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There have been a few tbf.
Debut vs Sunderland away (Walcott on RW)
Napoli home
Villa 5-0
Liverpool 4-1
Ozil was exceptional Jan-April 2015 & Giroud played most of those games.
Ramsey especially but also Özil had a horrendous game. Their passing was absolute shambles. No striker in the world can shine when your passing and crossing into the final third is harmless, useless and nowhere near to your striker.
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 1 minute ago
Honestly for the past twelve months Ramsey shouldn't be anywhere near our team. He's a fecking idiot concerned about glory than the team. Cannot win thr title with someone that stupid.
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That's the main problem for me, Wumi....Wenger puts him in the team for the sake of it.
Ozil is a no.10 and Ramsey a CM, they have nothing to do with each other. We're a creative team who likes to attack so no.10 is the most important position, everything goes though Ozil and he's not delivering, fact, and it's stopping the team from playing it's best football. The whole team looked so much better last season with Santi at no.10 and Santi was better than anything Ozil has done for us, easily. Not even close tbh.
Ozil type players have always been more suited to Italy/Spain, the floating type no.10's don't really fit here. Most of the playmakers that succeed can also play wide or in CM.
You are a blind if you think Santi's best form came with him at number 10. He was a deel lying CM. Also how can you say they have nothing to do with each other when in your article you blame one for the other's poor form. Get your story straight mate
Ozil wasn't that bad today tbh, just the fact that he is our record signing means people expect him to rescue us when the chips are down. Cech, Kos and Giroud were all awful today. Ramsey was simply diabolical. Everybody else was average apart from Ox who was good and Alexis who has had no pre season and looked more up to scratch than anyone else.
That being said Ozil fanbase are probably more deluded than AKBs on here, the amount of excuses made for him are embarrassing
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 32 seconds ago
Ozil is a no.10 and Ramsey a CM, they have nothing to do with each other. We're a creative team who likes to attack so no.10 is the most important position, everything goes though Ozil and he's not delivering, fact, and it's stopping the team from playing it's best football. The whole team looked so much better last season with Santi at no.10 and Santi was better than anything Ozil has done for us, easily. Not even close tbh.
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He is a CM who spend most of his team in the final third of the pitch.
Özil is not a B2b midfielder. He needs someone to carry the ball up to him otherwise he had to drop too deep to collect it. And that's what Cazorla does wonderfully.
Ramsey on the other hand spent more time in a much more advance position.
I'm actually struggling to remember Ramsey last good performance
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
comment by 8bit (U2653)
Ozil's also had very good games with Giroud up front... it's not about buying the players to suit him, the truth is he's the problem. Him losing the ball constantly and disappearing isn't Giroud's fault
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Name them.
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There have been a few tbf.
Debut vs Sunderland away (Walcott on RW)
Napoli home
Villa 5-0
Liverpool 4-1
Ozil was exceptional Jan-April 2015 & Giroud played most of those games.
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I think the problem is the players Wenger are collecting are not suited to each other's games and maybe this is why he is targeting Benzema.
Giroud drops deeper to link play and then isn't fast enough to finish the move. Giroud is actually ok at getting end of crosses into the box but that is impossible if he is dropping deep to link play. That is not suited to Ozil who occupies that space causing a bottleneck in attack.
This is why Giroud was going wide as our system requires it of the strikers to find space. Roatation of the front 3 are a must to draw the opposing CBs out of position. However when that happens with whoever is on the right/left, the wide player is supposed to move in to the middle. Oxo was not doing that as he is not naturally a striker.
This is why Giroud has looked better with Walcott wide right in the past.
I struggle to remember the last time we played our attacking football in the oppositon third. This dreadful dropping off and using the wings even at home to the smaler teams is pathetic really.
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
You are a blind if you think Santi's best form came with him at number 10. He was a deel lying CM. Also how can you say they have nothing to do with each other when in your article you blame one for the other's poor form. Get your story straight mate
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I mean Ramsey playing wide right, Cazorla playing wide and CM, Wilshere playing wide, yet Ozil playing 90 mins at no.10 every game despute being the worst of the lot. I hate the message this sends out. The players aren't stupid they must know Ozil is not performing to his best as well yet they get moved around positions? Ozil messes up the team dynamics and balance in the squad IMO
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madness sometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
Agree, Ramsey should have his behind plantes firmly on the bench until he gets some team ethic. You might think it is some 16 year old eager yo impress but is an idiot is his mid twenties ffs. And no Ozil is far from being worst of the lot.
Cazorla has seemed to cope with Giroud.
Seriously fans still use that to justify Ozil poor time at arsenal
Now the problem deeper, is what I suggested earlier in the summer much to the anger of the Coquelin fans.
Coq is very good at intercepting and and tackling. But he is not good at starting moves. Its very important in our system to distribute the ball quickly so as not to allow the opposition to settle into their defensive positions. We really need a ball playing player who can also tackle. This is why I was pointing to biscuits as the ideal player for that system.
Ramsey is a box to box runner. He cannot distribute like Wilshere/Santi. Coq looks much better with Santi or Wilshere alongside to do this role. However Wenger should be signing a better DM who can do both so that we can play a Ramsey alongside not dropping our only player who has the stamina to cover the midfield.
Wenger went back to a team that did not work last season. How many times did we complain that we needed Walcott to run beyond the last man? Bringing him on when we are 2-0 down and West Ham have parked the bus was all too late.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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Most assists in europe from 2008-2013.
Ozil 73 - Messi 68 - Xavi 56 - Cesc 55 - Mata 54
So obviously the TYPE of striker he is playing with has something to do with it.
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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I agree with you 8 bit. I dont think that Giroud wasnt that bad today. What clear cut chanced did he miss....? He had a few half chances and worked really hard to create spaces. What can he do if he have to play on the wing to even get the ball into the box? That doesnt work. Its the task for our midfield to pass into the box or get your wing play going on.
Ramsey is a waste of space...How many balls did he lose the ball in the built up? The guy is too selfish and wants to score instead to do his first job that is to keep the ball in dangerous areas.
Why Giroud is always the first scapegoat when things not going our way is beyond me.
We sleeping the whole first half and creating absolute nothing and concede rightly a silly goal. When run to get the goal but brainless, headless into another silly goal. If you cant score at one day you need to prevent goals at least.
Such a myth that Ramsey is a box to box mid. We havent seen him use his engine for two years now. Just stays up there when we are defending when he should be covering his DM because all he wants is to score goals nowadays. Fecking disgraceful player really.
Ramsey is a box to box runner. He cannot distribute like Wilshere/Santi. Coq looks much better with Santi or Wilshere alongside to do this role. However Wenger should be signing a better DM who can do both so that we can play a Ramsey alongside not dropping our only player who has the stamina to cover the midfield.
And he is losing the ball far too often in midfield or at our box...Horrendous
One particular situation sums him up. There was a high ball to be won today in our defensive third today and when he realized he couldn't win the bal he left the west ham player alone and took up a position to receive the ball on the counter instead of fighting for the ball himself. What's even more shocking is that there was no other Arsenal player near. Fecking disgrace!
"Ramsey is a box to box runner."
No he isn't! He has the engine to be one but he just isn't bothered to do so even when played centrally like today. Spent most of the time giving Giroud company exposing Coq in the process.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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Most assists in europe from 2008-2013.
Ozil 73 - Messi 68 - Xavi 56 - Cesc 55 - Mata 54
So obviously the TYPE of striker he is playing with has something to do with it.
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Sometimes signings just don't work though, he won't be the first great player to flop. ADM was poor last year so he got dropped and eventually sold, Ozil always plays and never gets subbed, if feels like blind faith just hoping he will come good which is a mistake imo.
i'm disgusted with myself but I have to agree with Wumpatrol.
There it goes, I said it.
Gonna grab a shower now
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 30 minutes ago
Ozil wasn't that bad today tbh, just the fact that he is our record signing means people expect him to rescue us when the chips are down. Cech, Kos and Giroud were all awful today. Ramsey was simply diabolical. Everybody else was average apart from Ox who was good and Alexis who has had no pre season and looked more up to scratch than anyone else.
That being said Ozil fanbase are probably more deluded than AKBs on here, the amount of excuses made for him are embarrassing
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posted on 9/8/15
Honestly for the past twelve months Ramsey shouldn't be anywhere near our team. He's a fecking idiot concerned about glory than the team. Cannot win thr title with someone that stupid.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
comment by 8bit (U2653)
Ozil's also had very good games with Giroud up front... it's not about buying the players to suit him, the truth is he's the problem. Him losing the ball constantly and disappearing isn't Giroud's fault
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Name them.
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There have been a few tbf.
Debut vs Sunderland away (Walcott on RW)
Napoli home
Villa 5-0
Liverpool 4-1
Ozil was exceptional Jan-April 2015 & Giroud played most of those games.
posted on 9/8/15
Ramsey especially but also Özil had a horrendous game. Their passing was absolute shambles. No striker in the world can shine when your passing and crossing into the final third is harmless, useless and nowhere near to your striker.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 1 minute ago
Honestly for the past twelve months Ramsey shouldn't be anywhere near our team. He's a fecking idiot concerned about glory than the team. Cannot win thr title with someone that stupid.
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That's the main problem for me, Wumi....Wenger puts him in the team for the sake of it.
posted on 9/8/15
Ozil is a no.10 and Ramsey a CM, they have nothing to do with each other. We're a creative team who likes to attack so no.10 is the most important position, everything goes though Ozil and he's not delivering, fact, and it's stopping the team from playing it's best football. The whole team looked so much better last season with Santi at no.10 and Santi was better than anything Ozil has done for us, easily. Not even close tbh.
posted on 9/8/15
Ozil type players have always been more suited to Italy/Spain, the floating type no.10's don't really fit here. Most of the playmakers that succeed can also play wide or in CM.
posted on 9/8/15
You are a blind if you think Santi's best form came with him at number 10. He was a deel lying CM. Also how can you say they have nothing to do with each other when in your article you blame one for the other's poor form. Get your story straight mate
posted on 9/8/15
Ozil wasn't that bad today tbh, just the fact that he is our record signing means people expect him to rescue us when the chips are down. Cech, Kos and Giroud were all awful today. Ramsey was simply diabolical. Everybody else was average apart from Ox who was good and Alexis who has had no pre season and looked more up to scratch than anyone else.
That being said Ozil fanbase are probably more deluded than AKBs on here, the amount of excuses made for him are embarrassing
posted on 9/8/15
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 32 seconds ago
Ozil is a no.10 and Ramsey a CM, they have nothing to do with each other. We're a creative team who likes to attack so no.10 is the most important position, everything goes though Ozil and he's not delivering, fact, and it's stopping the team from playing it's best football. The whole team looked so much better last season with Santi at no.10 and Santi was better than anything Ozil has done for us, easily. Not even close tbh.
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He is a CM who spend most of his team in the final third of the pitch.
Özil is not a B2b midfielder. He needs someone to carry the ball up to him otherwise he had to drop too deep to collect it. And that's what Cazorla does wonderfully.
Ramsey on the other hand spent more time in a much more advance position.
I'm actually struggling to remember Ramsey last good performance
posted on 9/8/15
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
comment by 8bit (U2653)
Ozil's also had very good games with Giroud up front... it's not about buying the players to suit him, the truth is he's the problem. Him losing the ball constantly and disappearing isn't Giroud's fault
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Name them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There have been a few tbf.
Debut vs Sunderland away (Walcott on RW)
Napoli home
Villa 5-0
Liverpool 4-1
Ozil was exceptional Jan-April 2015 & Giroud played most of those games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the problem is the players Wenger are collecting are not suited to each other's games and maybe this is why he is targeting Benzema.
Giroud drops deeper to link play and then isn't fast enough to finish the move. Giroud is actually ok at getting end of crosses into the box but that is impossible if he is dropping deep to link play. That is not suited to Ozil who occupies that space causing a bottleneck in attack.
This is why Giroud was going wide as our system requires it of the strikers to find space. Roatation of the front 3 are a must to draw the opposing CBs out of position. However when that happens with whoever is on the right/left, the wide player is supposed to move in to the middle. Oxo was not doing that as he is not naturally a striker.
This is why Giroud has looked better with Walcott wide right in the past.
posted on 9/8/15
I struggle to remember the last time we played our attacking football in the oppositon third. This dreadful dropping off and using the wings even at home to the smaler teams is pathetic really.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by Wumpatrol (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
You are a blind if you think Santi's best form came with him at number 10. He was a deel lying CM. Also how can you say they have nothing to do with each other when in your article you blame one for the other's poor form. Get your story straight mate
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I mean Ramsey playing wide right, Cazorla playing wide and CM, Wilshere playing wide, yet Ozil playing 90 mins at no.10 every game despute being the worst of the lot. I hate the message this sends out. The players aren't stupid they must know Ozil is not performing to his best as well yet they get moved around positions? Ozil messes up the team dynamics and balance in the squad IMO
posted on 9/8/15
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madness sometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
posted on 9/8/15
Agree, Ramsey should have his behind plantes firmly on the bench until he gets some team ethic. You might think it is some 16 year old eager yo impress but is an idiot is his mid twenties ffs. And no Ozil is far from being worst of the lot.
posted on 9/8/15
Cazorla has seemed to cope with Giroud.
Seriously fans still use that to justify Ozil poor time at arsenal
posted on 9/8/15
Now the problem deeper, is what I suggested earlier in the summer much to the anger of the Coquelin fans.
Coq is very good at intercepting and and tackling. But he is not good at starting moves. Its very important in our system to distribute the ball quickly so as not to allow the opposition to settle into their defensive positions. We really need a ball playing player who can also tackle. This is why I was pointing to biscuits as the ideal player for that system.
Ramsey is a box to box runner. He cannot distribute like Wilshere/Santi. Coq looks much better with Santi or Wilshere alongside to do this role. However Wenger should be signing a better DM who can do both so that we can play a Ramsey alongside not dropping our only player who has the stamina to cover the midfield.
Wenger went back to a team that did not work last season. How many times did we complain that we needed Walcott to run beyond the last man? Bringing him on when we are 2-0 down and West Ham have parked the bus was all too late.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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Most assists in europe from 2008-2013.
Ozil 73 - Messi 68 - Xavi 56 - Cesc 55 - Mata 54
So obviously the TYPE of striker he is playing with has something to do with it.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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I agree with you 8 bit. I dont think that Giroud wasnt that bad today. What clear cut chanced did he miss....? He had a few half chances and worked really hard to create spaces. What can he do if he have to play on the wing to even get the ball into the box? That doesnt work. Its the task for our midfield to pass into the box or get your wing play going on.
Ramsey is a waste of space...How many balls did he lose the ball in the built up? The guy is too selfish and wants to score instead to do his first job that is to keep the ball in dangerous areas.
Why Giroud is always the first scapegoat when things not going our way is beyond me.
We sleeping the whole first half and creating absolute nothing and concede rightly a silly goal. When run to get the goal but brainless, headless into another silly goal. If you cant score at one day you need to prevent goals at least.
posted on 9/8/15
Such a myth that Ramsey is a box to box mid. We havent seen him use his engine for two years now. Just stays up there when we are defending when he should be covering his DM because all he wants is to score goals nowadays. Fecking disgraceful player really.
posted on 9/8/15
Ramsey is a box to box runner. He cannot distribute like Wilshere/Santi. Coq looks much better with Santi or Wilshere alongside to do this role. However Wenger should be signing a better DM who can do both so that we can play a Ramsey alongside not dropping our only player who has the stamina to cover the midfield.
And he is losing the ball far too often in midfield or at our box...Horrendous
posted on 9/8/15
One particular situation sums him up. There was a high ball to be won today in our defensive third today and when he realized he couldn't win the bal he left the west ham player alone and took up a position to receive the ball on the counter instead of fighting for the ball himself. What's even more shocking is that there was no other Arsenal player near. Fecking disgrace!
posted on 9/8/15
"Ramsey is a box to box runner."
No he isn't! He has the engine to be one but he just isn't bothered to do so even when played centrally like today. Spent most of the time giving Giroud company exposing Coq in the process.
posted on 9/8/15
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 5 minutes ago
Giroud can obviously be improved on and a faster striker may well suit Ozil better seriously blaming it all on that is just madnesssometimes Ozil struggles to do the basics, gifts away possession, sloppy passes etc. and goes anonymous in so many games. Nothing to do with Giroud and all down to Ozil's inconsistency. I know that because the next game he'll be on it, sharp with crisp passing creating chances. And then the next game he'll be shocking again.
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Most assists in europe from 2008-2013.
Ozil 73 - Messi 68 - Xavi 56 - Cesc 55 - Mata 54
So obviously the TYPE of striker he is playing with has something to do with it.
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Sometimes signings just don't work though, he won't be the first great player to flop. ADM was poor last year so he got dropped and eventually sold, Ozil always plays and never gets subbed, if feels like blind faith just hoping he will come good which is a mistake imo.
posted on 9/8/15
i'm disgusted with myself but I have to agree with Wumpatrol.
There it goes, I said it.
Gonna grab a shower now
posted on 9/8/15
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 30 minutes ago
Ozil wasn't that bad today tbh, just the fact that he is our record signing means people expect him to rescue us when the chips are down. Cech, Kos and Giroud were all awful today. Ramsey was simply diabolical. Everybody else was average apart from Ox who was good and Alexis who has had no pre season and looked more up to scratch than anyone else.
That being said Ozil fanbase are probably more deluded than AKBs on here, the amount of excuses made for him are embarrassing
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