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comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 37 seconds ago
They would became for sale if we bid what they're worth...
You have to overpay to make them available, it's common sense. Arsene is simply not willing to do that.
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You are ervious to advice it seems.
Bayern laughed off an offer for nearly 100M EUR for facking Müller. Do you think there is a reasonable price of Lewandowski?
I don't believe those Muller rumours. Even if it's not Lewandowksi who I'm not really a fan of anyway, why not Dzeko, Jackson etc? Like I said we don't need to sign an Aguero level player to improve.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
Was KDB for sale, GT, was Sterling? Was Delph? Was Kondogbia, was Schneiderlin? Not saying we should've signed all of those, but to me it's rubbish saying you can only sign players who are "up for sale". Every year clubs say "not for sale at any price" and then sell a few weeks later, money talks.
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Yes they were. In KDB case manager Allofs that earlier..."He just signed a new contract until 2019 with Wolfsburg but if an offer comes in that you can't reject businesswise we deal."
Lacazette or Morata may not be in the Aguero or Suarez class yet but isn't Wengers biggest strength making players better?
Henry wasn't the finished article when he arrived so by taking a chance on a younger striker and improving him at Arsenal is well worth paying £20m and making him WC. Surely even Wenger can see this logic? He's done it so many times in the past (pre Emirates) or has he lost it?
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That's what puzzles me too. Henry, van Persie, Adebayor (and arguably Anelka), all strikers that Wenger signed on the cheap and turned into top players in the space of a season or two. Maybe Sanogo and Welbeck were supposed to be his next CF projects, but I think that would've been wishful thinking to say the least.
I don't usually like to go for the knee jerk reactions or slate GT for his Giroud love, but the way it seems to cloud his judgement is ridiculous.
Say what you want, but there are players available who would improve us in almost every position, with DM and CF being the obvious positions. For us to have spent £10m while already being behind City and Chelsea is just plain naive and you could argue arrogant.
I was talking about strikers only, Yohan's Kebab.
On the midfield front there were/are plenty of options the whole summer.
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comment by SenzuBeanBAG. (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't usually like to go for the knee jerk reactions or slate GT for his Giroud love, but the way it seems to cloud his judgement is ridiculous.
Say what you want, but there are players available who would improve us in almost every position, with DM and CF being the obvious positions. For us to have spent £10m while already being behind City and Chelsea is just plain naive and you could argue arrogant.
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Yeah there were so many options on the striker front that United paid 60M EUR + 20M EUR for a young unexperienced nobody Martial, right?
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lacazette or Morata may not be in the Aguero or Suarez class yet but isn't Wengers biggest strength making players better?
Henry wasn't the finished article when he arrived so by taking a chance on a younger striker and improving him at Arsenal is well worth paying £20m and making him WC. Surely even Wenger can see this logic? He's done it so many times in the past (pre Emirates) or has he lost it?
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That's what puzzles me too. Henry, van Persie, Adebayor (and arguably Anelka), all strikers that Wenger signed on the cheap and turned into top players in the space of a season or two. Maybe Sanogo and Welbeck were supposed to be his next CF projects, but I think that would've been wishful thinking to say the least.
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I don't know what he saw in Sanogo, but Welbeck does have a chance of improving (when fit). I'm sure Lacazette or Morata would have improved under Wenger and who knows could have benched Giroud more than a Theo Walcott! But it seems Wenger has lost his edge and now won't even back his own judgment on second tier players!
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That's upto them what they wanna do, but clearly they've made a mess of it when they could have had Pedro for £21m instead.
It's not even a matter of buying a vast improvement on your beloved Giroud, its just about having different options as Wellbeck and Walcott will never be good enough as a lone striker and Giroud is very limited in what he offers us.
There would be players available who would improve us in the CF position if we pushed for it, as opposed to waiting for someone to become available
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comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Since when is Pedro a CF?
If one would have been available do you think United would have gone for it instead of splash out the money on Martial?
The funny thing is that if you really think about it, the number of players who would improve us at CF is about the same as the amount of players who'd improve us at DM.
Yet GT can see the DM, but won't when it comes to the CF one because of his ridiculous loyalty to Giroud
GT, given United's summer, using them as an example of a beacon of sanity is hardly wise
Utd spent the money on Martial because they think a lot of him. Thats why they spent £36m on a 19 year old. Not because there weren't older more proven strikers on the market.
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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Since when is Pedro a CF?
If one would have been available do you think United would have gone for it instead of splash out the money on Martial?
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I was under the impression that Martial was a wide forward who can play through the middle, kinda like Pedro.
May be wrong though. Either way there's far better options for us
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Not sure how many times I have to explain myself here.
I want Wenger to buy a striker....of course. I want Wenger to spend serious money on a quality striker that is a reliable better finisher in big games than Olivier giroud who is not. Simple.
If you remember I liked the idea of Lacacette at Arsenal. Watching him the last few weeks I have to say thank God we didnt....
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posted on 1/9/15
comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 37 seconds ago
They would became for sale if we bid what they're worth...
You have to overpay to make them available, it's common sense. Arsene is simply not willing to do that.
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You are ervious to advice it seems.
Bayern laughed off an offer for nearly 100M EUR for facking Müller. Do you think there is a reasonable price of Lewandowski?
posted on 1/9/15
*impervious to advice
posted on 1/9/15
Gunnerthru is deluded af
posted on 1/9/15
I don't believe those Muller rumours. Even if it's not Lewandowksi who I'm not really a fan of anyway, why not Dzeko, Jackson etc? Like I said we don't need to sign an Aguero level player to improve.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
Was KDB for sale, GT, was Sterling? Was Delph? Was Kondogbia, was Schneiderlin? Not saying we should've signed all of those, but to me it's rubbish saying you can only sign players who are "up for sale". Every year clubs say "not for sale at any price" and then sell a few weeks later, money talks.
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Yes they were. In KDB case manager Allofs that earlier..."He just signed a new contract until 2019 with Wolfsburg but if an offer comes in that you can't reject businesswise we deal."
posted on 1/9/15
Lacazette or Morata may not be in the Aguero or Suarez class yet but isn't Wengers biggest strength making players better?
Henry wasn't the finished article when he arrived so by taking a chance on a younger striker and improving him at Arsenal is well worth paying £20m and making him WC. Surely even Wenger can see this logic? He's done it so many times in the past (pre Emirates) or has he lost it?
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That's what puzzles me too. Henry, van Persie, Adebayor (and arguably Anelka), all strikers that Wenger signed on the cheap and turned into top players in the space of a season or two. Maybe Sanogo and Welbeck were supposed to be his next CF projects, but I think that would've been wishful thinking to say the least.
posted on 1/9/15
I don't usually like to go for the knee jerk reactions or slate GT for his Giroud love, but the way it seems to cloud his judgement is ridiculous.
Say what you want, but there are players available who would improve us in almost every position, with DM and CF being the obvious positions. For us to have spent £10m while already being behind City and Chelsea is just plain naive and you could argue arrogant.
posted on 1/9/15
I was talking about strikers only, Yohan's Kebab.
On the midfield front there were/are plenty of options the whole summer.
posted on 1/9/15
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posted on 1/9/15
comment by SenzuBeanBAG. (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't usually like to go for the knee jerk reactions or slate GT for his Giroud love, but the way it seems to cloud his judgement is ridiculous.
Say what you want, but there are players available who would improve us in almost every position, with DM and CF being the obvious positions. For us to have spent £10m while already being behind City and Chelsea is just plain naive and you could argue arrogant.
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Yeah there were so many options on the striker front that United paid 60M EUR + 20M EUR for a young unexperienced nobody Martial, right?
posted on 1/9/15
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lacazette or Morata may not be in the Aguero or Suarez class yet but isn't Wengers biggest strength making players better?
Henry wasn't the finished article when he arrived so by taking a chance on a younger striker and improving him at Arsenal is well worth paying £20m and making him WC. Surely even Wenger can see this logic? He's done it so many times in the past (pre Emirates) or has he lost it?
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That's what puzzles me too. Henry, van Persie, Adebayor (and arguably Anelka), all strikers that Wenger signed on the cheap and turned into top players in the space of a season or two. Maybe Sanogo and Welbeck were supposed to be his next CF projects, but I think that would've been wishful thinking to say the least.
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I don't know what he saw in Sanogo, but Welbeck does have a chance of improving (when fit). I'm sure Lacazette or Morata would have improved under Wenger and who knows could have benched Giroud more than a Theo Walcott! But it seems Wenger has lost his edge and now won't even back his own judgment on second tier players!
posted on 1/9/15
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posted on 1/9/15
That's upto them what they wanna do, but clearly they've made a mess of it when they could have had Pedro for £21m instead.
It's not even a matter of buying a vast improvement on your beloved Giroud, its just about having different options as Wellbeck and Walcott will never be good enough as a lone striker and Giroud is very limited in what he offers us.
There would be players available who would improve us in the CF position if we pushed for it, as opposed to waiting for someone to become available
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posted on 1/9/15
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Since when is Pedro a CF?
If one would have been available do you think United would have gone for it instead of splash out the money on Martial?
posted on 1/9/15
The funny thing is that if you really think about it, the number of players who would improve us at CF is about the same as the amount of players who'd improve us at DM.
Yet GT can see the DM, but won't when it comes to the CF one because of his ridiculous loyalty to Giroud
posted on 1/9/15
GT, given United's summer, using them as an example of a beacon of sanity is hardly wise
posted on 1/9/15
Utd spent the money on Martial because they think a lot of him. Thats why they spent £36m on a 19 year old. Not because there weren't older more proven strikers on the market.
posted on 1/9/15
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posted on 1/9/15
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Since when is Pedro a CF?
If one would have been available do you think United would have gone for it instead of splash out the money on Martial?
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I was under the impression that Martial was a wide forward who can play through the middle, kinda like Pedro.
May be wrong though. Either way there's far better options for us
posted on 1/9/15
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Top-Dawg (U1060)
posted 1 minute ago
But not striker that improves us, eh GT?
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You surely want quantity not quality, right. For the sake of it. Good on you.
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You really think we couldn't have signed a better striker than our current options!?
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Not sure how many times I have to explain myself here.
I want Wenger to buy a striker....of course. I want Wenger to spend serious money on a quality striker that is a reliable better finisher in big games than Olivier giroud who is not. Simple.
If you remember I liked the idea of Lacacette at Arsenal. Watching him the last few weeks I have to say thank God we didnt....
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