The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone where give me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 12 seconds ago
The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone wheregive me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
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not really, but dont let your hatred for united cloud your judgement you douche.
simple, Payet was on a yellow, Atkinson didnt deem it a penalty, so he should have walked going by the rules.
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 minute ago
The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone wheregive me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
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Errrr it was either a penalty or a dive. There is no in between in my book. Considering he thought it wasn't penalty then he must have deemed it a dive. Considering simulation is a bookable offence and the fact he was already on a yellow that would mean he would have got a second yellow. Two yellow cards make a red card.
Simplified enough for you numnuts
The ref could have thought he got a touch on the ball.
then he would have been wrong AGAIN
comment by Rauben_Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ref could have thought he got a touch on the ball.
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If he thought rojo touched the ball then he should maybe look at taking up another occupation
The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba
Payet should have had a red yesterday
not really, but dont let your hatred for united cloud your judgement you douche**
Nerve hit
tbh I think you are flattering Man United by suggesting hatred towards them, they dont command that kind of response these days, they're just a source of amusement most of the time
"The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba"
Common sense? They were both clearly yellow cards, what's the common sense he should have used?
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 seconds ago
"The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba"
Common sense? They were both clearly yellow cards, what's the common sense he should have used?
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Letter of the law you are right
The op used the common sense argument
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
Mata's yellows were correct so irrelevant of using common sense or not, he was rightfully booked. Are you suggesting common sense would have meant no yellows? Surely that isn't common sense as WBA would have then suffered from the ref's leniency. Who Mata is as a person and his disciplinary record are completely irrelevant.
Payet being sent off for diving would of been completely wrong.
The contact was exactly the same as the one on Benteke a defender on his knees pulling out of a challenge the forward slows down until he feels a tap on his rear foot and dives,the problem is, if it was good enough for Liverpool ,it has to be good enough for West Ham at Old Trafford
They then throw Palace a bone v Reading as Reading are below Palace in the pecking order and that's how the FA operate, they think its keeps everyone happy
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
Mata's yellows were correct so irrelevant of using common sense or not, he was rightfully booked. Are you suggesting common sense would have meant no yellows? Surely that isn't common sense as WBA would have then suffered from the ref's leniency. Who Mata is as a person and his disciplinary record are completely irrelevant.
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Load of bolx
It's one or the other. The lad went down in the box and immediately appealed for a pen.
No pen he dived its a yellow
MY OPINION he dived should have had a yellow the way Mata deserved his yellows
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
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Well he didn't touch the ball so it's either a foul or a dive. I simply can't see how it can be neither
Manc
His initial fall was weak but based on Rojo pulling his shirt, that for me doesn't mean it's a dive but it also doesn't mean it's a foul, then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet. It was a nothing incident that warranted no call from the ref.
Not all decisions have to be one or the other, like everything there are grey areas, something far too many people on this site fail to understand.
It isn't just one or the other, although I personally interpreted it as a dive and so thought Payet was lucky to stay on.
There isn't just a right or wrong answer with these things, it is down to the referees interpretation.
It is possible for it to be neither a penalty or a dive.
The ref had a mare, but his shocking decisions effected both teams.
Manu should have had a player sent off and their goal should not have stood after a foul on the keeper by Pigfarmer. This seems to have been forgotten by some Utd fans.
It's impossible for refs while players continue to do this (and continue they will, because the stakes are so high these days).
It looked like a clear penalty from where I was sat, heart in mouth time, it was only watching it back later it looked like a dive. The only person who can tell you for sure is Payet.
then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet.
Whether Rojo touches him or not is irrelevant, Payet was already going down before being touched. He dived, plain and simple.
It was Ashley Young-esque.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet.
Whether Rojo touches him or not is irrelevant, Payet was already going down before being touched. He dived, plain and simple.
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Exactly
It is clear as day that payer is falling before there is even contact. It was a clear dive. How there is even a discussion about it s unbelievable
The funny thing is, Payet actually expected the contact the be on his left foot, which is the one he decides to drag for visual effect.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bRoAshzGzmU
so with the 'dive' and the Man United goal not being ruled out for a foul West Ham should have won 1-0 yesterday then
No because he wouldn't have been on the pitch to score
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'&scaron... (U1541)
posted 6 minutes ago
It was Ashley Young-esque.
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Exactly and he should have been booked
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posted on 14/3/16
The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone where give me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
posted on 14/3/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 12 seconds ago
The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone wheregive me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
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not really, but dont let your hatred for united cloud your judgement you douche.
simple, Payet was on a yellow, Atkinson didnt deem it a penalty, so he should have walked going by the rules.
posted on 14/3/16
comment by really? (U17250)
posted 1 minute ago
The red doesn't have to do one or the other but that was a cast iron dive and he should have gone**
Should have gone wheregive me strength, you a United fan by any chance, sad times
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Errrr it was either a penalty or a dive. There is no in between in my book. Considering he thought it wasn't penalty then he must have deemed it a dive. Considering simulation is a bookable offence and the fact he was already on a yellow that would mean he would have got a second yellow. Two yellow cards make a red card.
Simplified enough for you numnuts
posted on 14/3/16
The ref could have thought he got a touch on the ball.
posted on 14/3/16
then he would have been wrong AGAIN
posted on 14/3/16
comment by Rauben_Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
The ref could have thought he got a touch on the ball.
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If he thought rojo touched the ball then he should maybe look at taking up another occupation
posted on 14/3/16
The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba
Payet should have had a red yesterday
posted on 14/3/16
not really, but dont let your hatred for united cloud your judgement you douche**
Nerve hit
tbh I think you are flattering Man United by suggesting hatred towards them, they dont command that kind of response these days, they're just a source of amusement most of the time
posted on 14/3/16
"The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba"
Common sense? They were both clearly yellow cards, what's the common sense he should have used?
posted on 14/3/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 11 seconds ago
"The ref didn't use any discretion or common sense when Mata was sent off against wba"
Common sense? They were both clearly yellow cards, what's the common sense he should have used?
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Letter of the law you are right
The op used the common sense argument
posted on 14/3/16
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
Mata's yellows were correct so irrelevant of using common sense or not, he was rightfully booked. Are you suggesting common sense would have meant no yellows? Surely that isn't common sense as WBA would have then suffered from the ref's leniency. Who Mata is as a person and his disciplinary record are completely irrelevant.
posted on 14/3/16
Payet being sent off for diving would of been completely wrong.
The contact was exactly the same as the one on Benteke a defender on his knees pulling out of a challenge the forward slows down until he feels a tap on his rear foot and dives,the problem is, if it was good enough for Liverpool ,it has to be good enough for West Ham at Old Trafford
They then throw Palace a bone v Reading as Reading are below Palace in the pecking order and that's how the FA operate, they think its keeps everyone happy
posted on 14/3/16
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 3 minutes ago
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
Mata's yellows were correct so irrelevant of using common sense or not, he was rightfully booked. Are you suggesting common sense would have meant no yellows? Surely that isn't common sense as WBA would have then suffered from the ref's leniency. Who Mata is as a person and his disciplinary record are completely irrelevant.
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Load of bolx
It's one or the other. The lad went down in the box and immediately appealed for a pen.
No pen he dived its a yellow
MY OPINION he dived should have had a yellow the way Mata deserved his yellows
posted on 14/3/16
Completely different situations.
Payet's was neither a dive or a foul, which is why the ref was correct to carry on with play.
.................
Well he didn't touch the ball so it's either a foul or a dive. I simply can't see how it can be neither
posted on 14/3/16
Manc
His initial fall was weak but based on Rojo pulling his shirt, that for me doesn't mean it's a dive but it also doesn't mean it's a foul, then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet. It was a nothing incident that warranted no call from the ref.
Not all decisions have to be one or the other, like everything there are grey areas, something far too many people on this site fail to understand.
posted on 14/3/16
It isn't just one or the other, although I personally interpreted it as a dive and so thought Payet was lucky to stay on.
There isn't just a right or wrong answer with these things, it is down to the referees interpretation.
It is possible for it to be neither a penalty or a dive.
posted on 14/3/16
The ref had a mare, but his shocking decisions effected both teams.
Manu should have had a player sent off and their goal should not have stood after a foul on the keeper by Pigfarmer. This seems to have been forgotten by some Utd fans.
posted on 14/3/16
It's impossible for refs while players continue to do this (and continue they will, because the stakes are so high these days).
It looked like a clear penalty from where I was sat, heart in mouth time, it was only watching it back later it looked like a dive. The only person who can tell you for sure is Payet.
posted on 14/3/16
then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet.
Whether Rojo touches him or not is irrelevant, Payet was already going down before being touched. He dived, plain and simple.
posted on 14/3/16
It was Ashley Young-esque.
posted on 14/3/16
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 seconds ago
then as Ji said Rojo catches him which makes it impossible for Payet to regain his balance and stay on his feet.
Whether Rojo touches him or not is irrelevant, Payet was already going down before being touched. He dived, plain and simple.
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Exactly
It is clear as day that payer is falling before there is even contact. It was a clear dive. How there is even a discussion about it s unbelievable
posted on 14/3/16
The funny thing is, Payet actually expected the contact the be on his left foot, which is the one he decides to drag for visual effect.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bRoAshzGzmU
posted on 14/3/16
so with the 'dive' and the Man United goal not being ruled out for a foul West Ham should have won 1-0 yesterday then
posted on 14/3/16
No because he wouldn't have been on the pitch to score
posted on 14/3/16
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'&scaron... (U1541)
posted 6 minutes ago
It was Ashley Young-esque.
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Exactly and he should have been booked
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