comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks for that info M. The only other thing I am aware of is that if a company is a member of BPA, which I believe this company is, they can legally obtain my details from DVLA. As I am not the keeper of the car, is it worth letting the company keeper know to ignore any letters on my behalf?
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K, the company I work for pay fines then send an invoice with an admin fee
Yes same for mine although they do not charge an admin fee. I don't want them to accidentally turn around and pay this charge if they do get a letter
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comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks for that info M. The only other thing I am aware of is that if a company is a member of BPA, which I believe this company is, they can legally obtain my details from DVLA. As I am not the keeper of the car, is it worth letting the company keeper know to ignore any letters on my behalf?
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K, the company I work for pay fines then send an invoice with an admin fee
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Yes, make sure the registered keeper does not send any confirmation letters back to the fines company.
The fine can only legally go to the registered keeper/owner. This has caused problems for company car drivers in the past; a fine turns up and the registered keeper pays it on behalf of the person who uses the vehicle, and then takes the money from them.
Once the fine has been paid, then liability has been admitted. Just explain to the keeper what is happening and ask them to forward any communications/letters on to you.
M
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Morning all,
Thought I would update as to what has happened regarding this charge.
So I appealed to the operator internally first with attached evidence of the non-existent signage in a harshly worded email. This was as expected rejected with them even having the cheek to tell me in the reply to the appeal that “signage is clearly displayed all over our site”. I then lodged a further appeal with the IAS (who this operator is a member of) within 21 days. If done within 21 days, you can use the IAS’s services free of charge and the decision of the appeal is binding on the operator but not yourself. If not done within 21 days you do have to pay £15 and the decision is binding on you – however I digress as that doesn’t apply to me. So I inputted my details and registered an intent to appeal to which the operator has 5 working days in order to reply and submit their “evidence” and tell the IAS why this charge was issued. Once done you then have 10 working days to input any evidence of your own so then the adjudicator can decide whether or not the charge is enforceable.
However this operator did not even bother to input any evidence meaning they conceded defeat. I then received an email stating this charge is now not being pursued by them. Just goes to show, if you know and understand the law well and are willing to fight for something that is right you are likely to succeed. They didn’t even bother arguing with it in the end.
Missed this the other day- nice one Kav, always nice to give the metaphorical middle finger at those s
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posted on 27/3/16
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks for that info M. The only other thing I am aware of is that if a company is a member of BPA, which I believe this company is, they can legally obtain my details from DVLA. As I am not the keeper of the car, is it worth letting the company keeper know to ignore any letters on my behalf?
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K, the company I work for pay fines then send an invoice with an admin fee
posted on 27/3/16
Yes same for mine although they do not charge an admin fee. I don't want them to accidentally turn around and pay this charge if they do get a letter
posted on 27/3/16
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posted on 27/3/16
comment by a foxes voice (U1133)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 2 minutes ago
Thanks for that info M. The only other thing I am aware of is that if a company is a member of BPA, which I believe this company is, they can legally obtain my details from DVLA. As I am not the keeper of the car, is it worth letting the company keeper know to ignore any letters on my behalf?
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K, the company I work for pay fines then send an invoice with an admin fee
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Yes, make sure the registered keeper does not send any confirmation letters back to the fines company.
The fine can only legally go to the registered keeper/owner. This has caused problems for company car drivers in the past; a fine turns up and the registered keeper pays it on behalf of the person who uses the vehicle, and then takes the money from them.
Once the fine has been paid, then liability has been admitted. Just explain to the keeper what is happening and ask them to forward any communications/letters on to you.
M
posted on 27/3/16
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posted on 10/5/16
Morning all,
Thought I would update as to what has happened regarding this charge.
So I appealed to the operator internally first with attached evidence of the non-existent signage in a harshly worded email. This was as expected rejected with them even having the cheek to tell me in the reply to the appeal that “signage is clearly displayed all over our site”. I then lodged a further appeal with the IAS (who this operator is a member of) within 21 days. If done within 21 days, you can use the IAS’s services free of charge and the decision of the appeal is binding on the operator but not yourself. If not done within 21 days you do have to pay £15 and the decision is binding on you – however I digress as that doesn’t apply to me. So I inputted my details and registered an intent to appeal to which the operator has 5 working days in order to reply and submit their “evidence” and tell the IAS why this charge was issued. Once done you then have 10 working days to input any evidence of your own so then the adjudicator can decide whether or not the charge is enforceable.
However this operator did not even bother to input any evidence meaning they conceded defeat. I then received an email stating this charge is now not being pursued by them. Just goes to show, if you know and understand the law well and are willing to fight for something that is right you are likely to succeed. They didn’t even bother arguing with it in the end.
posted on 13/5/16
Missed this the other day- nice one Kav, always nice to give the metaphorical middle finger at those s
posted on 14/5/16
Cheers Neo, very true
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