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posted on 2/6/16

Thirdly, why do you want a Dachsund? They are gay.

posted on 2/6/16

A more appropriate analogy was mentioned earlier in this thread, which was something along the lines of:

A group of blokes are in a nightclub, and after an hour or two a few want to leave.

“Where to?”
“Dunno but this place is $ h it.”
“Yes it’s not great but there aren’t really many alternatives.”
“Fek it, let’s go!”

A few leave, only to find out that the next club is a complete dive with even pricier booze. After a few pricey drinks they decide to go back to the club. But the door staff want to charge even more to get back in.

These are the blokes who are left in the p1 ssing rain waiting for a taxi with a bag of soggy chips.

posted on 2/6/16

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comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 2/6/16

comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 12 minutes ago
I will do a count of the votes once everyone has contributed
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Maybe just edit the article doing a star rating -

5* Out
1* Remain
3* Undecided

posted on 2/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 4 minutes ago
A more appropriate analogy was mentioned earlier in this thread, which was something along the lines of:

A group of blokes are in a nightclub, and after an hour or two a few want to leave.

“Where to?”
“Dunno but this place is $ h it.”
“Yes it’s not great but there aren’t really many alternatives.”
“Fek it, let’s go!”

A few leave, only to find out that the next club is a complete dive with even pricier booze. After a few pricey drinks they decide to go back to the club. But the door staff want to charge even more to get back in.

These are the blokes who are left in the p1 ssing rain waiting for a taxi with a bag of soggy chips.

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'Won't let them back in' as opposed to 'charge them more to get back in'

posted on 2/6/16

Robben

Inconceivable (should there be a Brexit) the EU would effectively ‘bar’ the UK from rejoining. But reentry negotiations would be heavily weighted against the UK.

posted on 2/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
Robben

Inconceivable (should there be a Brexit) the EU would effectively ‘bar’ the UK from rejoining. But reentry negotiations would be heavily weighted against the UK.

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I agree, I'm sure we would be able to rejoin, but the negotiations would be weighed against us.

Putting aside the economic benefits of staying and the argument for and against immigration I think we are better place to influence what happens to the EU in the future by remaining in it rather than looking on from the outside.

I'm guessing that most people want the EU to change, to do that we are better placed having a say in how things are run.

posted on 2/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
A more appropriate analogy was mentioned earlier in this thread, which was something along the lines of:

A group of blokes are in a nightclub, and after an hour or two a few want to leave.

“Where to?”
“Dunno but this place is $ h it.”
“Yes it’s not great but there aren’t really many alternatives.”
“Fek it, let’s go!”

A few leave, only to find out that the next club is a complete dive with even pricier booze. After a few pricey drinks they decide to go back to the club. But the door staff want to charge even more to get back in.

These are the blokes who are left in the p1 ssing rain waiting for a taxi with a bag of soggy chips.

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So get rid of free movement so no one can look for a better club?

posted on 2/6/16

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
Robben

Inconceivable (should there be a Brexit) the EU would effectively ‘bar’ the UK from rejoining. But reentry negotiations would be heavily weighted against the UK.

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The UK would be severely disadvantaged trying to negotiate a re-entry (which I'm pretty sure would happen within 10 years of an exit should it come to it). Not suggesting this is the only reason to stay in but it is one of many.

posted on 2/6/16

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posted on 2/6/16

comment by SirCastic (U8772)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 22 minutes ago
A more appropriate analogy was mentioned earlier in this thread, which was something along the lines of:

A group of blokes are in a nightclub, and after an hour or two a few want to leave.

“Where to?”
“Dunno but this place is $ h it.”
“Yes it’s not great but there aren’t really many alternatives.”
“Fek it, let’s go!”

A few leave, only to find out that the next club is a complete dive with even pricier booze. After a few pricey drinks they decide to go back to the club. But the door staff want to charge even more to get back in.

These are the blokes who are left in the p1 ssing rain waiting for a taxi with a bag of soggy chips.

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So get rid of free movement so no one can look for a better club?
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The argument I can’t get my head around is while the EU is far from perfect, it is a market of over 500m consumers. If there was a predefined roadmap (which could be implemented over a period of time) then there may be a case.

But just to up sticks, and leave with no planned exit strategy, in my opinion is madness.

comment by RB&W (U2335)

posted on 2/6/16

most of the Brexit lot do have some minor issues with foreigners

mainly little ones such as... They dont like the French!.. Why? Cos I'm English/They smell of Garlic/They got invaded in WW2 by Hitler/They dont like us...., (delete as appropriate)

and some have major issues with foreigners... what we wont go into on here.

stop kidding yourselves

posted on 2/6/16

comment by RB&W (U2335)
posted 45 seconds ago
most of the Brexit lot do have some minor issues with foreigners

mainly little ones such as... They dont like the French!.. Why? Cos I'm English/They smell of Garlic/They got invaded in WW2 by Hitler/They dont like us...., (delete as appropriate)

and some have major issues with foreigners... what we wont go into on here.

stop kidding yourselves
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So you're saying Brexit votes are all racist?

posted on 2/6/16

comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U2335)
posted 45 seconds ago
most of the Brexit lot do have some minor issues with foreigners

mainly little ones such as... They dont like the French!.. Why? Cos I'm English/They smell of Garlic/They got invaded in WW2 by Hitler/They dont like us...., (delete as appropriate)

and some have major issues with foreigners... what we wont go into on here.

stop kidding yourselves
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So you're saying Brexit votes are all racist?
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That would be you suggesting that...

posted on 2/6/16

comment by Song's gone but Santi coming to town makes it feel like Christmas every day (U12977)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alasnomoresmithandjones (long live Israel) (U15157)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by RB&W (U2335)
posted 45 seconds ago
most of the Brexit lot do have some minor issues with foreigners

mainly little ones such as... They dont like the French!.. Why? Cos I'm English/They smell of Garlic/They got invaded in WW2 by Hitler/They dont like us...., (delete as appropriate)

and some have major issues with foreigners... what we wont go into on here.

stop kidding yourselves
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So you're saying Brexit votes are all racist?
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That would be you suggesting that...
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Am I? Explain

posted on 2/6/16

Hmmm...

comment by RB&W (U2335)

posted on 2/6/16

im suggesting that there is a mistrust of foreign immigrants in general that makes them want to blame them for all their woes.. and not themselves...

The same people dont even like Scots and wish they would feck off.. yet they still claim the are die hard bulldog brits

The Jeremy Kyle bunch on benefits who wont help themselves so easily blame foreigners because they dont have any money... are examples of this and are a blight on the UK landscape

posted on 2/6/16

comment by RB&W (U2335)
posted 56 seconds ago
im suggesting that there is a mistrust of foreign immigrants in general that makes them want to blame them for all their woes.. and not themselves...

The same people dont even like Scots and wish they would feck off.. yet they still claim the are die hard bulldog brits

The Jeremy Kyle bunch on benefits who wont help themselves so easily blame foreigners because they dont have any money... are examples of this and are a blight on the UK landscape
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Are you claiming Brexit voters are all uneducated scroungers?

posted on 2/6/16

Brexit voters aren't ALL racist but a lot of them are.

posted on 2/6/16

Most were split, and forecasts varied.

However the overwhelming view on remain from an financial perspective has been unprecedented.
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Lets take the latest "experts" to pontificate on the subject, shall we?

The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development or OECD as it is better known has received over £23m from the EU over the past 9 years. They want us to remain in Europe and they have warned that leaving would "leave a large negative shock" for Britains economy. they also stated our economic groth would be 3% lower than it would be if we remained in the EU.

Lets examine OECD's record in terms of forecasting shall we:

In 1990 the OECD suggested that Britain would benefit from joining the ERM, it was a complete disater & we withdrew in September 1992.

In 1999 the OECD hailed the Euro and was keen on Britain joining it. The Euro is now widely discredited and approaching potential meltdown.


In 2011 the OECD urged the Bank of England to raise interest rates to curb inflation. Inflation has since fallen to 0.3% whilst interest rates have not risen.

In May 2013 the OECD said the economy would grow by 0.8% in 2013 and 1.5% in 2014.
The actual growth figures were 2.2% & 2.9% respectively. So they were wrong by as much as 60% in terms of acuuracy on the growth figures.

Not the most impressive record is it? And we are expected to do what they suggest?

posted on 2/6/16

Dubai seems to be a perfect example of how a place can still flourish, even with over 80% of the inhabitants being foreign.

posted on 2/6/16

comment by Robben (U1145)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by shinji: Hafi sans stats (U1700)
posted 19 seconds ago
I will do a count of the votes once everyone has contributed
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Have fun looking through the 550+ comments
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If my fave posters VC, TCP, really?, Nobbs and friends have been posting I will.

posted on 2/6/16

Just reading on the BBC "Vote Leave say young people will find it harder to get on the housing ladder if UK stays in EU"

So how is the EU stopping the UK government from building more houses? Maybe don't invest in war and instead invest the money into the nation?

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 2/6/16

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 4 minutes ago
Dubai seems to be a perfect example of how a place can still flourish, even with over 80% of the inhabitants being foreign.
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That because literally all the foreigners in dubai have a chit load of money. You wouldnt get anywhere in dubai with £5 to your name.

posted on 2/6/16

Genius Greaves

I think (from the overwhelming information) the financial debate is dead as a Dodo. Which is why the leave campaign are now focusing attention to immigration.

Brexit (to date) have been unable to provide any details of their planned (financial) exit strategy – forecasts for the first year, second year etc etc.

In short, from a financial perspective, it’s at best a complete jump in the dark, or at worst, as most economists/bodies/governments have predicted, the wrong decision.

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