Can the SNP block brexit?
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted less than a minute ago
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
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You'll be on a watch list now
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
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I so hope they get independence and leave the UK if that is the case
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
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I so hope they get independence and leave the UK if that is the case
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Yeah, good luck to them if they do. I love Scotland and find the resident Scottish great people, it's only the ones down here that have a chip on their shoulders
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted less than a minute ago
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
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You'll be on a watch list now
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I think it was a really controversial petition so I would be surprised
A friend of mine just sent me a message about the tactics of the Remain campaign that I think hits the nail on the head.
I was born and raised in poor and under-invested circumstances, and was raised in a household full of problems (though also plenty of love and determination, too, for I'm not wishing to speak ill of my parents here). Yet I have been fortunate enough to come to university and receive a world-class education, but not because I suddenly found heaps of cash. It's because I was given hope. Not only did those 'above' me listen to me, they pushed me forward to succeed.
That's the one major problem I had with the Remain campaign, in my honest opinion: it was a campaign of fear, of everything we'd lose from leaving the EU. While none of it was on the scale of the lies of the Leave campaign, those from poorer backgrounds never saw what the EU did for us, so they had no reason to believe that there could be repercussions. Leave gave them hope of "getting your country back"; the prospect of being able to finally have a say in what effects them, and the status quo seemingly already crap for them, the other option couldn't be any worse, right?
Had the Remain campaign focused more on everything we gained from the EU, and the prospects which that gave people - along with better outreach to poorer, rural areas - I feel like we'd have performed better.
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNj-hH8LkY
Posted this earlier, don't think any of you have watched it??
It's the views of a conservative MEP, so an insiders view. He's a good speaker, if nothing else!
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 27 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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You have to add a postcode, so you'd think they could at least do postcode validation?
Is anyone clear on what would happen if the UK was to split before we've negotiated our way out of the EU; if, for example, Scotland parted ways before the EU negotiations are up (which looks like it could be years and years away).
Would Scotland still have to apply for membership or would it be considered an existing EU country that elected not to leave?
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 58 seconds ago
From the guardians comments section:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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So he lied? Again.
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 38 seconds ago
From the guardians comments section:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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Wishful thinking. Article 50 will be triggered unless there is a General Election called before the Tories have replaced Cameron.
But the article is correct in saying Cameron won't trigger it. Why on earth would he?
It is also correct in saying it will destroy the political career of the Prime Minister in power (which will have to be a pro-Leave MP), and do an awful lot of damage to the party in power at the time.
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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3000 out of 2500000
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yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
"When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure."
That's the really telling bit. Even Douglas Carswell keeps repeating that we cannot trigger Article 50 yet. Why? Surely at least UKIP believe out is out.
They've won, Cameron will pass the mantle to them as quickly as possible - quite rightly, and they are now all sheeting themselves because they don't have a clue what to do.
I would not actually be surprised if neither Boris nor Gove stands in the leadership battle now.
Maybe we need a PM with real balls - one who's prepared to trigger Article 50 immediately.
Cameron could step down now, resigning as an MP to trigger a by-election, and the Tories could welcome Farage into their newly positioned post-Brexit fold. He could stand in the by-election, and, once elected, run for PM.
I bet he'd love to be the one to trigger Article 50.
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
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He is indeed. But I don't believe he is obliged to trigger Article 50 himself.
He's campaigned long and hard and put himself out on a limb. He told us he couldn't support Brexit. How can he lead the country now?
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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3000 out of 2500000
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yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
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There are also over 20,000 from Vatican City. Population:800
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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3000 out of 2500000
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
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There are also over 20,000 from Vatican City. Population:800
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The Lord works in mysterious ways, my child...
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 minutes ago
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
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He is a disgrace, but he was never going to be the leader if he lost the referendum. His party would never of allowed him to start negotiating, how could he when Europe would blame him for losing the vote <quite rightly> and secondly, because he would be negotiating something he doesn't believe in.
I'm not bothered that he has resigned. By doing so he has given the woefully ill prepared Leave team some breathing space. The concern is that in the two to three months the Tory's have to pick a new leader, the economy burns, fuelled by uncertainty and lack of stability.
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posted on 26/6/16
Can the SNP block brexit?
posted on 26/6/16
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
posted on 26/6/16
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
posted on 26/6/16
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted less than a minute ago
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
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You'll be on a watch list now
posted on 26/6/16
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
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I so hope they get independence and leave the UK if that is the case
posted on 26/6/16
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted less than a minute ago
Can the SNP block brexit?
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Sturgeon has said they can. That's what happens when you deal with the Wildlings
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I so hope they get independence and leave the UK if that is the case
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Yeah, good luck to them if they do. I love Scotland and find the resident Scottish great people, it's only the ones down here that have a chip on their shoulders
posted on 26/6/16
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ross Turnbull has a Champions League medal (U3522)
posted less than a minute ago
Fair. I used to get emails from the White House after signing a US petition once.
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You'll be on a watch list now
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I think it was a really controversial petition so I would be surprised
posted on 26/6/16
A friend of mine just sent me a message about the tactics of the Remain campaign that I think hits the nail on the head.
I was born and raised in poor and under-invested circumstances, and was raised in a household full of problems (though also plenty of love and determination, too, for I'm not wishing to speak ill of my parents here). Yet I have been fortunate enough to come to university and receive a world-class education, but not because I suddenly found heaps of cash. It's because I was given hope. Not only did those 'above' me listen to me, they pushed me forward to succeed.
That's the one major problem I had with the Remain campaign, in my honest opinion: it was a campaign of fear, of everything we'd lose from leaving the EU. While none of it was on the scale of the lies of the Leave campaign, those from poorer backgrounds never saw what the EU did for us, so they had no reason to believe that there could be repercussions. Leave gave them hope of "getting your country back"; the prospect of being able to finally have a say in what effects them, and the status quo seemingly already crap for them, the other option couldn't be any worse, right?
Had the Remain campaign focused more on everything we gained from the EU, and the prospects which that gave people - along with better outreach to poorer, rural areas - I feel like we'd have performed better.
posted on 26/6/16
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
posted on 26/6/16
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNj-hH8LkY
Posted this earlier, don't think any of you have watched it??
It's the views of a conservative MEP, so an insiders view. He's a good speaker, if nothing else!
posted on 26/6/16
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 27 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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You have to add a postcode, so you'd think they could at least do postcode validation?
posted on 26/6/16
posted on 26/6/16
Is anyone clear on what would happen if the UK was to split before we've negotiated our way out of the EU; if, for example, Scotland parted ways before the EU negotiations are up (which looks like it could be years and years away).
Would Scotland still have to apply for membership or would it be considered an existing EU country that elected not to leave?
posted on 26/6/16
posted on 26/6/16
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 58 seconds ago
From the guardians comments section:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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So he lied? Again.
posted on 26/6/16
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 38 seconds ago
From the guardians comments section:
If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
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Wishful thinking. Article 50 will be triggered unless there is a General Election called before the Tories have replaced Cameron.
But the article is correct in saying Cameron won't trigger it. Why on earth would he?
It is also correct in saying it will destroy the political career of the Prime Minister in power (which will have to be a pro-Leave MP), and do an awful lot of damage to the party in power at the time.
posted on 26/6/16
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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3000 out of 2500000
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yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
posted on 26/6/16
"When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure."
That's the really telling bit. Even Douglas Carswell keeps repeating that we cannot trigger Article 50 yet. Why? Surely at least UKIP believe out is out.
They've won, Cameron will pass the mantle to them as quickly as possible - quite rightly, and they are now all sheeting themselves because they don't have a clue what to do.
I would not actually be surprised if neither Boris nor Gove stands in the leadership battle now.
posted on 26/6/16
Maybe we need a PM with real balls - one who's prepared to trigger Article 50 immediately.
Cameron could step down now, resigning as an MP to trigger a by-election, and the Tories could welcome Farage into their newly positioned post-Brexit fold. He could stand in the by-election, and, once elected, run for PM.
I bet he'd love to be the one to trigger Article 50.
posted on 26/6/16
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
posted on 26/6/16
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 minutes ago
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is indeed. But I don't believe he is obliged to trigger Article 50 himself.
He's campaigned long and hard and put himself out on a limb. He told us he couldn't support Brexit. How can he lead the country now?
posted on 26/6/16
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
----------------------------------------------------------------------
3000 out of 2500000
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
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There are also over 20,000 from Vatican City. Population:800
posted on 26/6/16
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Spaireland (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by trigg_27 - Don't talk to me about suffering - I support Arsenal (U6906)
posted 32 minutes ago
Apparently 3000 of the petition signatures came from Antarctica.
Impressed penguins can go online with those flippers
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3000 out of 2500000
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes, but it does illustrate that, unlike the voting process, an online petition is vulnerable to fraud/abuse. presumably i could go on there now, give a false name, pick a random address from the phone book, and no one would be any the wiser?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There are also over 20,000 from Vatican City. Population:800
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The Lord works in mysterious ways, my child...
posted on 26/6/16
posted on 26/6/16
comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 13 minutes ago
The real telling bit is that Cameron fed us with another lie, along with the one where he wouldn't resign.
He's a disgrace.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He is a disgrace, but he was never going to be the leader if he lost the referendum. His party would never of allowed him to start negotiating, how could he when Europe would blame him for losing the vote <quite rightly> and secondly, because he would be negotiating something he doesn't believe in.
I'm not bothered that he has resigned. By doing so he has given the woefully ill prepared Leave team some breathing space. The concern is that in the two to three months the Tory's have to pick a new leader, the economy burns, fuelled by uncertainty and lack of stability.
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