Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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Wissam Ben Yedder?
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
Maybe because it has been the same story for the past 3 seasons. We have been trying to sign a striker for quite sometime now and yet haven't manage to lend one while other teams have.
The signs so far this season are exactly the same and there is a deja vue feel about it.
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
comment by DiRtY Sanchez (U6360)
posted 3 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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Wissam Ben Yedder?
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Why people make their mind up because of the price tag?
No one has noticed Mahrez....ffs
You sure he didnt try?
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I'm sure he did, but he didn't deliver, which isn't good enough. I don't think it takes THAT much to find a better CF than Giroud.
Why people make their mind up because of the price tag?
No one has noticed Mahrez....ffs
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Do you think Mahrez will be an Arsenal player this new season GT?
I tell you what - I may be a bit old school i.e I remember pre-SKY days but some fans always look at the negative in everything we do.
If we win 1-0 it should have been 5-0. If Giroud scores the winner then it's all about the sitter he missed. If we win 2 FA Cups in a row then why didn't we win the title.
If supporting Arsenal makes you so unhappy then can I suggest that you either support Real Madrid or Man City or go and do something completely different which rocks your boat
And yeah I get all the anger about the expensive tickets and that it can be frustrating that we seem to dither about so much when it comes to transfers when others like Chelsea appear to get things done so easily. But that's the way it is I'm afraid.
The news today that we have bid for a 35-40m striker can only be good as it means we are looking at buying a top, expensive player. If this doesn't get you excited then I'd suggest that football isn't the game for you.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
The FACT is that it's obvious we have needed a good striker for many years. Yes we signed Welbeck, who I like but he has been injured more than has played. We need to stop messing about and get a striker ffs.
Didn't west ham have a 40m euro bid rejected? This smells like the "we tried" rhetoric.
If Wenger was interested in lacazette he would have bid for him a long time ago.
comment by Tu Meke Takuma. (U3732)
posted 9 seconds ago
Didn't west ham have a 40m euro bid rejected? This smells like the "we tried" rhetoric.
If Wenger was interested in lacazette he would have bid for him a long time ago.
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Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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Trying and failing I agree means nothing in sport but we haven't failed yet. Much like buying a second hand car or a house all we have done is made a bid which was rejected. We could easily go back with a higher bid late on which is accepted.
Not sure 30m is chit bid - especially if it's only our opener in negotiations.
However, if that's our final offer and we end up with no one come the 31 August then I'll totally agree with your viewpoint but it's only 26 July so plenty of time.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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^^^^
Ding ding ding. Strikers are out there, but wenger will talk about lack of value in the market. He knows we need pace as well as power up top for an alternative to Giroud. Walcott has patches but lacks consistency. When he hits form he can be deadly, but the inevitably he gets injured then it takes him 2 months to discover some sort of form again.
Wenger needs to really test some teams resolve and offer the big money. 40 mill for lacazette... could get him for 38...but we won't get him for 29. It's like he wants a player, but won't pay the going price. Either you want him or you don't. But don't throw in half hearted bids. And seriously, how long does it take to submit a new bid once rejected initially? "Hey you want 40 mill, I'll give you 29"..."go to hell wenger...we want 40". "Not gonna pay 40..but I'll meet you half way at 35 then"..."no no...maybe we'll take 38"......well pre season is underway, player is what 24/25...will fit in while giving us something new...38 mill in this day and age is not crazy...if you want the player you get him.
I think a big problem with our club is that we are still living on past transfer values. However, i think this has always been a big problem with our club.
6/7 years ago 25-40m was the price of a quality player we needed and we would only want to pay 15-18m for them.
We finally managed to conceded that we need to offer prices in the 30m mark but its too late. we are still behind. By the time we realised that was what we needed to offer, the normal rate went to 40-60m. And the same will happen again once the normal rate goes to 60-80m.
We just need to go out there and bid 36m next and then finally 40m to get the player we need.
we'll probably go up to 31.5m next, it gets rejected and we leave it saying no one is available
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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^^^^
Ding ding ding. Strikers are out there, but wenger will talk about lack of value in the market. He knows we need pace as well as power up top for an alternative to Giroud. Walcott has patches but lacks consistency. When he hits form he can be deadly, but the inevitably he gets injured then it takes him 2 months to discover some sort of form again.
Wenger needs to really test some teams resolve and offer the big money. 40 mill for lacazette... could get him for 38...but we won't get him for 29. It's like he wants a player, but won't pay the going price. Either you want him or you don't. But don't throw in half hearted bids. And seriously, how long does it take to submit a new bid once rejected initially? "Hey you want 40 mill, I'll give you 29"..."go to hell wenger...we want 40". "Not gonna pay 40..but I'll meet you half way at 35 then"..."no no...maybe we'll take 38"......well pre season is underway, player is what 24/25...will fit in while giving us something new...38 mill in this day and age is not crazy...if you want the player you get him.
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Kinda agree with all this but how do we know how old this initial bid is? If it was 4 weeks ago then agreed it shouldn't take that long to come back with an improved offer if we really want him. However, if it was 2 days ago then how do we know that we won't go back and bid another 5m etc?
All speculation. Only fact we have is that we have bid for the player which has got to be good news as it means that we are in the market.
comment by The Gin Palace (U21084)
posted 24 minutes ago
I tell you what - I may be a bit old school i.e I remember pre-SKY days but some fans always look at the negative in everything we do.
If we win 1-0 it should have been 5-0. If Giroud scores the winner then it's all about the sitter he missed. If we win 2 FA Cups in a row then why didn't we win the title.
If supporting Arsenal makes you so unhappy then can I suggest that you either support Real Madrid or Man City or go and do something completely different which rocks your boat
And yeah I get all the anger about the expensive tickets and that it can be frustrating that we seem to dither about so much when it comes to transfers when others like Chelsea appear to get things done so easily. But that's the way it is I'm afraid.
The news today that we have bid for a 35-40m striker can only be good as it means we are looking at buying a top, expensive player. If this doesn't get you excited then I'd suggest that football isn't the game for you.
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I can't believe it. Real fans like this actually still exist rather than the plastic trash that invests social media and forums like this
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 53 seconds ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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Well, it would go with what Wenger said after the Lens game. It is all about poker game and we need to be patient because there's still 6 weeks in the window.
The longer we leave it the more expensive he will become as Lyon will have less and less time to find a replacement
We need to be patient... we've only been waiting 4 years to sign a better striker than Giroud.
Wenger's poker face must be facking terrible.
Yes lets play poker and wait until the end of the transfer window all to save 5 or so million pounds. Lets hope we dont drop any points against Liverpool and leicester in our first few games while we wait for wenger to get a full house.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 4 minutes ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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But why spend more than you have to? If we can get someone for 30m why spend 35m? Yeah I agree that getting it done early could mean an extra week or so of training which may help him integrate better into the side but is that worth £5m to us?
No successful business spends more than it has to. If we get the players that we target within our budget then we have achieved our objectives. Let's wait and see. We could have been testing the waters with Lyon to see how much they would accept before moving onto players who we wanted more who perhaps weren't available when we made our initial bid.
Everyone on here would be going mad if we bought Vardy early on and then Benzema for example became available a couple of weeks later.
I'd rather spend £5m more to guarantee landing a player than going without completely. I mean if we were rich with options and already had a great forward line then fine, but we're not.
Beggars can't be choosers, if we don't get a top striker at the very least this summer then there is no way we will challenge for the title, something which "real" fans should want at the very least in this coming season.
Also this is a football club not just a business, if it was all about business then teams like Utd wouldn't bother investing heavily in their team each summer. Arsenal are too bloody obsessed with the business side, it's like nothing else matters.
comment by The Gin Palace (U21084)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 4 minutes ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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But why spend more than you have to? If we can get someone for 30m why spend 35m? Yeah I agree that getting it done early could mean an extra week or so of training which may help him integrate better into the side but is that worth £5m to us?
No successful business spends more than it has to. If we get the players that we target within our budget then we have achieved our objectives. Let's wait and see. We could have been testing the waters with Lyon to see how much they would accept before moving onto players who we wanted more who perhaps weren't available when we made our initial bid.
Everyone on here would be going mad if we bought Vardy early on and then Benzema for example became available a couple of weeks later.
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I think football stopped being a legit business a few years back. And I am not advocating spending more than what your club can afford. But we can afford to spend money and pay slightly over the odds for a player who we deem would improve the team. I think bargaining and poker should be left for players yet to prove themselves at the highest level.
And if you are gonna bid for a player, you try get close to asking price. Not 25% below valuation. Think about when you sell a house or car...You'd normally put it on the market for a price KNOWING people are going to haggle. And You'd know your bottom price. And if someone meets it, you sell even if it's below ur asking price. Unless you are in no rush to sell...
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posted on 26/7/16
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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Wissam Ben Yedder?
posted on 26/7/16
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
------------
The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
posted on 26/7/16
Maybe because it has been the same story for the past 3 seasons. We have been trying to sign a striker for quite sometime now and yet haven't manage to lend one while other teams have.
The signs so far this season are exactly the same and there is a deja vue feel about it.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
posted on 26/7/16
comment by DiRtY Sanchez (U6360)
posted 3 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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Wissam Ben Yedder?
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Why people make their mind up because of the price tag?
No one has noticed Mahrez....ffs
posted on 26/7/16
You sure he didnt try?
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I'm sure he did, but he didn't deliver, which isn't good enough. I don't think it takes THAT much to find a better CF than Giroud.
posted on 26/7/16
Why people make their mind up because of the price tag?
No one has noticed Mahrez....ffs
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Do you think Mahrez will be an Arsenal player this new season GT?
posted on 26/7/16
I tell you what - I may be a bit old school i.e I remember pre-SKY days but some fans always look at the negative in everything we do.
If we win 1-0 it should have been 5-0. If Giroud scores the winner then it's all about the sitter he missed. If we win 2 FA Cups in a row then why didn't we win the title.
If supporting Arsenal makes you so unhappy then can I suggest that you either support Real Madrid or Man City or go and do something completely different which rocks your boat
And yeah I get all the anger about the expensive tickets and that it can be frustrating that we seem to dither about so much when it comes to transfers when others like Chelsea appear to get things done so easily. But that's the way it is I'm afraid.
The news today that we have bid for a 35-40m striker can only be good as it means we are looking at buying a top, expensive player. If this doesn't get you excited then I'd suggest that football isn't the game for you.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
posted on 26/7/16
The FACT is that it's obvious we have needed a good striker for many years. Yes we signed Welbeck, who I like but he has been injured more than has played. We need to stop messing about and get a striker ffs.
posted on 26/7/16
Didn't west ham have a 40m euro bid rejected? This smells like the "we tried" rhetoric.
If Wenger was interested in lacazette he would have bid for him a long time ago.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by Tu Meke Takuma. (U3732)
posted 9 seconds ago
Didn't west ham have a 40m euro bid rejected? This smells like the "we tried" rhetoric.
If Wenger was interested in lacazette he would have bid for him a long time ago.
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Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
posted on 26/7/16
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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Trying and failing I agree means nothing in sport but we haven't failed yet. Much like buying a second hand car or a house all we have done is made a bid which was rejected. We could easily go back with a higher bid late on which is accepted.
Not sure 30m is chit bid - especially if it's only our opener in negotiations.
However, if that's our final offer and we end up with no one come the 31 August then I'll totally agree with your viewpoint but it's only 26 July so plenty of time.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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^^^^
Ding ding ding. Strikers are out there, but wenger will talk about lack of value in the market. He knows we need pace as well as power up top for an alternative to Giroud. Walcott has patches but lacks consistency. When he hits form he can be deadly, but the inevitably he gets injured then it takes him 2 months to discover some sort of form again.
Wenger needs to really test some teams resolve and offer the big money. 40 mill for lacazette... could get him for 38...but we won't get him for 29. It's like he wants a player, but won't pay the going price. Either you want him or you don't. But don't throw in half hearted bids. And seriously, how long does it take to submit a new bid once rejected initially? "Hey you want 40 mill, I'll give you 29"..."go to hell wenger...we want 40". "Not gonna pay 40..but I'll meet you half way at 35 then"..."no no...maybe we'll take 38"......well pre season is underway, player is what 24/25...will fit in while giving us something new...38 mill in this day and age is not crazy...if you want the player you get him.
posted on 26/7/16
I think a big problem with our club is that we are still living on past transfer values. However, i think this has always been a big problem with our club.
6/7 years ago 25-40m was the price of a quality player we needed and we would only want to pay 15-18m for them.
We finally managed to conceded that we need to offer prices in the 30m mark but its too late. we are still behind. By the time we realised that was what we needed to offer, the normal rate went to 40-60m. And the same will happen again once the normal rate goes to 60-80m.
We just need to go out there and bid 36m next and then finally 40m to get the player we need.
we'll probably go up to 31.5m next, it gets rejected and we leave it saying no one is available
posted on 26/7/16
comment by MaineGunner (U10130)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Conclusive proof that we are still going for a top striker yet people here are still finding something to moan about
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The problem is it's now been 3 years and 6 transfer windows since Wenger bid for Suarez - so clearly he has known we've needed a top striker since at least then. Why has it taken him/the club so long to find any upgrade on Giroud? History suggests news of interest/bids is nothing to get your hopes up about.
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You sure he didnt try?
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Who cares if he tried or not? Anyone can make $hit bids for players and say they "tried". Is that ok to you?
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^^^^
Ding ding ding. Strikers are out there, but wenger will talk about lack of value in the market. He knows we need pace as well as power up top for an alternative to Giroud. Walcott has patches but lacks consistency. When he hits form he can be deadly, but the inevitably he gets injured then it takes him 2 months to discover some sort of form again.
Wenger needs to really test some teams resolve and offer the big money. 40 mill for lacazette... could get him for 38...but we won't get him for 29. It's like he wants a player, but won't pay the going price. Either you want him or you don't. But don't throw in half hearted bids. And seriously, how long does it take to submit a new bid once rejected initially? "Hey you want 40 mill, I'll give you 29"..."go to hell wenger...we want 40". "Not gonna pay 40..but I'll meet you half way at 35 then"..."no no...maybe we'll take 38"......well pre season is underway, player is what 24/25...will fit in while giving us something new...38 mill in this day and age is not crazy...if you want the player you get him.
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Kinda agree with all this but how do we know how old this initial bid is? If it was 4 weeks ago then agreed it shouldn't take that long to come back with an improved offer if we really want him. However, if it was 2 days ago then how do we know that we won't go back and bid another 5m etc?
All speculation. Only fact we have is that we have bid for the player which has got to be good news as it means that we are in the market.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by The Gin Palace (U21084)
posted 24 minutes ago
I tell you what - I may be a bit old school i.e I remember pre-SKY days but some fans always look at the negative in everything we do.
If we win 1-0 it should have been 5-0. If Giroud scores the winner then it's all about the sitter he missed. If we win 2 FA Cups in a row then why didn't we win the title.
If supporting Arsenal makes you so unhappy then can I suggest that you either support Real Madrid or Man City or go and do something completely different which rocks your boat
And yeah I get all the anger about the expensive tickets and that it can be frustrating that we seem to dither about so much when it comes to transfers when others like Chelsea appear to get things done so easily. But that's the way it is I'm afraid.
The news today that we have bid for a 35-40m striker can only be good as it means we are looking at buying a top, expensive player. If this doesn't get you excited then I'd suggest that football isn't the game for you.
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I can't believe it. Real fans like this actually still exist rather than the plastic trash that invests social media and forums like this
posted on 26/7/16
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 53 seconds ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
-----------
Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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Well, it would go with what Wenger said after the Lens game. It is all about poker game and we need to be patient because there's still 6 weeks in the window.
posted on 26/7/16
The longer we leave it the more expensive he will become as Lyon will have less and less time to find a replacement
posted on 26/7/16
We need to be patient... we've only been waiting 4 years to sign a better striker than Giroud.
Wenger's poker face must be facking terrible.
posted on 26/7/16
Yes lets play poker and wait until the end of the transfer window all to save 5 or so million pounds. Lets hope we dont drop any points against Liverpool and leicester in our first few games while we wait for wenger to get a full house.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 4 minutes ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
-----------
Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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But why spend more than you have to? If we can get someone for 30m why spend 35m? Yeah I agree that getting it done early could mean an extra week or so of training which may help him integrate better into the side but is that worth £5m to us?
No successful business spends more than it has to. If we get the players that we target within our budget then we have achieved our objectives. Let's wait and see. We could have been testing the waters with Lyon to see how much they would accept before moving onto players who we wanted more who perhaps weren't available when we made our initial bid.
Everyone on here would be going mad if we bought Vardy early on and then Benzema for example became available a couple of weeks later.
posted on 26/7/16
I'd rather spend £5m more to guarantee landing a player than going without completely. I mean if we were rich with options and already had a great forward line then fine, but we're not.
Beggars can't be choosers, if we don't get a top striker at the very least this summer then there is no way we will challenge for the title, something which "real" fans should want at the very least in this coming season.
Also this is a football club not just a business, if it was all about business then teams like Utd wouldn't bother investing heavily in their team each summer. Arsenal are too bloody obsessed with the business side, it's like nothing else matters.
posted on 26/7/16
comment by The Gin Palace (U21084)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 4 minutes ago
Reports started to emerge that our bid was prior to West Ham bid. Well over a month ago
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Surely if this is true and we did bid over a month ago and havent come back with another offer just proves how utterly useless we are at transfers. If he just stumped up the £35Mil at the start of the window he could have settled already and been with us during pre-season due to not going to the euros.
TBH £35Mil is not really that much these days due to the amount of money in the PL.
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But why spend more than you have to? If we can get someone for 30m why spend 35m? Yeah I agree that getting it done early could mean an extra week or so of training which may help him integrate better into the side but is that worth £5m to us?
No successful business spends more than it has to. If we get the players that we target within our budget then we have achieved our objectives. Let's wait and see. We could have been testing the waters with Lyon to see how much they would accept before moving onto players who we wanted more who perhaps weren't available when we made our initial bid.
Everyone on here would be going mad if we bought Vardy early on and then Benzema for example became available a couple of weeks later.
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I think football stopped being a legit business a few years back. And I am not advocating spending more than what your club can afford. But we can afford to spend money and pay slightly over the odds for a player who we deem would improve the team. I think bargaining and poker should be left for players yet to prove themselves at the highest level.
And if you are gonna bid for a player, you try get close to asking price. Not 25% below valuation. Think about when you sell a house or car...You'd normally put it on the market for a price KNOWING people are going to haggle. And You'd know your bottom price. And if someone meets it, you sell even if it's below ur asking price. Unless you are in no rush to sell...
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