It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 4 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
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To be clear, you are arguing that housing, education and local services are suffering more due to net immigration figures than they are due to a lack of infrastructural investment and budget cuts?
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 15 minutes ago
In response to the same survey, controlling immigration and taking back control of our borders was cited as the most important reason to vote for Brexit by a third of those who did so.
A separate Lord Ashcroft survey polled 20,000 Brits on immigration with 62% saying that the impact of foreigners claiming benefits and using public services was their biggest concern about immigration.
We know that immigrants, per capita, claim a smaller amount in benefits *and* pay more in taxes than native Brits.
So again, this is a reason that contributed to people deciding to vote to leave based on a false premise: if immigrants contribute net an above average amount to the state whilst drawing less, their impact on the benefits burden and public services can only be positive.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/article1308078.ece
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I work in benefits and the number of immigrants claming benefit is frightening.
British public are lied to in this regard.
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 11 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
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This
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 15 minutes ago
In response to the same survey, controlling immigration and taking back control of our borders was cited as the most important reason to vote for Brexit by a third of those who did so.
A separate Lord Ashcroft survey polled 20,000 Brits on immigration with 62% saying that the impact of foreigners claiming benefits and using public services was their biggest concern about immigration.
We know that immigrants, per capita, claim a smaller amount in benefits *and* pay more in taxes than native Brits.
So again, this is a reason that contributed to people deciding to vote to leave based on a false premise: if immigrants contribute net an above average amount to the state whilst drawing less, their impact on the benefits burden and public services can only be positive.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/article1308078.ece
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I work in benefits and the number of immigrants claming benefit is frightening.
British public are lied to in this regard.
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That's completely anecdotal.
There are hard and fast figures on this. Even the Leave campaign didn't deny it.
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 12 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many immigrants are state dependent?
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 24 seconds ago
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
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I agree with the first half of that completely.
But given that immigrants are better contributors than Brits, from a purely economic perspective, curbing their numbers isn't the solution. The solution is reversing the tax and spending cuts.
4,353,874
what a stupid question
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
4,353,874
what a stupid question
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why's it a stupid question?
You claim a large number of immigrants are state dependant. Is it unreasonable to ask you to quantify that statement?
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 24 seconds ago
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with the first half of that completely.
But given that immigrants are better contributors than Brits, from a purely economic perspective, curbing their numbers isn't the solution. The solution is reversing the tax and spending cuts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's not gonna happen mate, we've been saying this since the late 1990's and records of numbers keep ¢oming in and services are cut so something is going wrong and as we quite rightly are not going to ask people to leave then we need to be very careful going forward on controlling immigration, you need lots of money or a job waiting for you to get into America, Australia etc and we need to follow that model.
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
Koeman
I'd suggest giving this a read. It's a comprehensive report by the LSE on immigrants and the impact of immigration.
There are a lot of interesting and surprising data in there, including plenty on state dependence and contribution.
http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa014.pdf
For me, in terms of public services, the British people are absolutely right to be angry about underfunding. But that has nothing to do with immigration.
With high immigration levels, the Government is in a *better* position to better fund public services; it has more money to spend per person, particularly considering the age profile of immigrants and the very significant ageing of the native population.
The biggest problem is the unwillingness of Government to apply taxation policies that commit the wealthiest companies and individuals in our society to reinvesting in the country that has enriched them.
That's where our anger should be directed, in my most humble of opinions
The vote was just for control and a common sense approach not an end to immigration. If there was a referendum for companies to pay proper tax it would get a lot more than 52% but realistically it's not gonna happen.
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
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I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
If you live in heavily populated british cities you know
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
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The report I've linked above (amongst many others) demonstrates that immigrants are on average less dependent on the state than native Brits Dazza
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
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Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
The vote was just for control and a common sense approach not an end to immigration. If there was a referendum for companies to pay proper tax it would get a lot more than 52% but realistically it's not gonna happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it not going to happen?
It certainly isn't going to happen if people vote for political parties who are disinterested in the redistribution of wealth. Is that what you're thinking?
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
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No, but bluebells has seen loads of scrounging immis about, hasn't he?
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 20 seconds ago
Koeman
I'd suggest giving this a read. It's a comprehensive report by the LSE on immigrants and the impact of immigration.
There are a lot of interesting and surprising data in there, including plenty on state dependence and contribution.
http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa014.pdf
For me, in terms of public services, the British people are absolutely right to be angry about underfunding. But that has nothing to do with immigration.
With high immigration levels, the Government is in a *better* position to better fund public services; it has more money to spend per person, particularly considering the age profile of immigrants and the very significant ageing of the native population.
The biggest problem is the unwillingness of Government to apply taxation policies that commit the wealthiest companies and individuals in our society to reinvesting in the country that has enriched them.
That's where our anger should be directed, in my most humble of opinions
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no point in me directing any anger at them other than voting leave and taking elements of their power away, Like i've said it's not about just money, it's about integration, livelihood, housing and education and in my opinion immigration should always be controlled in order to have a fair balance and a healthy society, i appreciate that many not go down well with people that come here to earn more money than they would in their home country but it needs to be on a 'skilled and necessary basis' and not through general labour.
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, but bluebells has seen loads of scrounging immis about, hasn't he?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Bluebells said the same thing a while back on another thread. He was asked how he identifies immigrants in the job centre, funny sounding name, different colour skin?
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
----
Maybe this is one of your problems.
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
boy, you're really going for it tonight aren't you darling
I think you're losing the ability to see what I'm saying through just not liking me now Feet, how did it get to this?
How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
----
Maybe this is one of your problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain.
Trump or Clinton
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posted on 13/10/16
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 4 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be clear, you are arguing that housing, education and local services are suffering more due to net immigration figures than they are due to a lack of infrastructural investment and budget cuts?
posted on 13/10/16
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 15 minutes ago
In response to the same survey, controlling immigration and taking back control of our borders was cited as the most important reason to vote for Brexit by a third of those who did so.
A separate Lord Ashcroft survey polled 20,000 Brits on immigration with 62% saying that the impact of foreigners claiming benefits and using public services was their biggest concern about immigration.
We know that immigrants, per capita, claim a smaller amount in benefits *and* pay more in taxes than native Brits.
So again, this is a reason that contributed to people deciding to vote to leave based on a false premise: if immigrants contribute net an above average amount to the state whilst drawing less, their impact on the benefits burden and public services can only be positive.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/article1308078.ece
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work in benefits and the number of immigrants claming benefit is frightening.
British public are lied to in this regard.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 11 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This
posted on 13/10/16
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by thebluebellsareblue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 15 minutes ago
In response to the same survey, controlling immigration and taking back control of our borders was cited as the most important reason to vote for Brexit by a third of those who did so.
A separate Lord Ashcroft survey polled 20,000 Brits on immigration with 62% saying that the impact of foreigners claiming benefits and using public services was their biggest concern about immigration.
We know that immigrants, per capita, claim a smaller amount in benefits *and* pay more in taxes than native Brits.
So again, this is a reason that contributed to people deciding to vote to leave based on a false premise: if immigrants contribute net an above average amount to the state whilst drawing less, their impact on the benefits burden and public services can only be positive.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/article1308078.ece
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I work in benefits and the number of immigrants claming benefit is frightening.
British public are lied to in this regard.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's completely anecdotal.
There are hard and fast figures on this. Even the Leave campaign didn't deny it.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 12 minutes ago
It isn't all about money - social cohesion, housing, education are all equally important when discussing immigration, the money required from taking in unlimited numbers of people (and a good number are state dependant) is not made available in sufficient proportions and local services are in ruins.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many immigrants are state dependent?
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 24 seconds ago
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with the first half of that completely.
But given that immigrants are better contributors than Brits, from a purely economic perspective, curbing their numbers isn't the solution. The solution is reversing the tax and spending cuts.
posted on 13/10/16
4,353,874
what a stupid question
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
4,353,874
what a stupid question
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why's it a stupid question?
You claim a large number of immigrants are state dependant. Is it unreasonable to ask you to quantify that statement?
posted on 13/10/16
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 24 seconds ago
I'm saying that the necessary amount of money isnt made available to local services in sufficient measures in order for them to be able to cope with the number of people they need to provide for - which leads to arguments for controlled immigration and no that doesn't mean asking anyone currently residing here to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with the first half of that completely.
But given that immigrants are better contributors than Brits, from a purely economic perspective, curbing their numbers isn't the solution. The solution is reversing the tax and spending cuts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's not gonna happen mate, we've been saying this since the late 1990's and records of numbers keep ¢oming in and services are cut so something is going wrong and as we quite rightly are not going to ask people to leave then we need to be very careful going forward on controlling immigration, you need lots of money or a job waiting for you to get into America, Australia etc and we need to follow that model.
posted on 13/10/16
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
posted on 13/10/16
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
posted on 13/10/16
Koeman
I'd suggest giving this a read. It's a comprehensive report by the LSE on immigrants and the impact of immigration.
There are a lot of interesting and surprising data in there, including plenty on state dependence and contribution.
http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa014.pdf
For me, in terms of public services, the British people are absolutely right to be angry about underfunding. But that has nothing to do with immigration.
With high immigration levels, the Government is in a *better* position to better fund public services; it has more money to spend per person, particularly considering the age profile of immigrants and the very significant ageing of the native population.
The biggest problem is the unwillingness of Government to apply taxation policies that commit the wealthiest companies and individuals in our society to reinvesting in the country that has enriched them.
That's where our anger should be directed, in my most humble of opinions
posted on 13/10/16
The vote was just for control and a common sense approach not an end to immigration. If there was a referendum for companies to pay proper tax it would get a lot more than 52% but realistically it's not gonna happen.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
If you live in heavily populated british cities you know
posted on 13/10/16
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
Would help having figures when making sweeping statements, though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The report I've linked above (amongst many others) demonstrates that immigrants are on average less dependent on the state than native Brits Dazza
posted on 13/10/16
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
posted on 13/10/16
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 minute ago
The vote was just for control and a common sense approach not an end to immigration. If there was a referendum for companies to pay proper tax it would get a lot more than 52% but realistically it's not gonna happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is it not going to happen?
It certainly isn't going to happen if people vote for political parties who are disinterested in the redistribution of wealth. Is that what you're thinking?
posted on 13/10/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, but bluebells has seen loads of scrounging immis about, hasn't he?
posted on 13/10/16
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 20 seconds ago
Koeman
I'd suggest giving this a read. It's a comprehensive report by the LSE on immigrants and the impact of immigration.
There are a lot of interesting and surprising data in there, including plenty on state dependence and contribution.
http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/pa014.pdf
For me, in terms of public services, the British people are absolutely right to be angry about underfunding. But that has nothing to do with immigration.
With high immigration levels, the Government is in a *better* position to better fund public services; it has more money to spend per person, particularly considering the age profile of immigrants and the very significant ageing of the native population.
The biggest problem is the unwillingness of Government to apply taxation policies that commit the wealthiest companies and individuals in our society to reinvesting in the country that has enriched them.
That's where our anger should be directed, in my most humble of opinions
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no point in me directing any anger at them other than voting leave and taking elements of their power away, Like i've said it's not about just money, it's about integration, livelihood, housing and education and in my opinion immigration should always be controlled in order to have a fair balance and a healthy society, i appreciate that many not go down well with people that come here to earn more money than they would in their home country but it needs to be on a 'skilled and necessary basis' and not through general labour.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by rossobianchi - Rock the Pogbah (U17054)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, but bluebells has seen loads of scrounging immis about, hasn't he?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Bluebells said the same thing a while back on another thread. He was asked how he identifies immigrants in the job centre, funny sounding name, different colour skin?
posted on 13/10/16
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
----
Maybe this is one of your problems.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by KoemanYouBlues (U21156)
posted 1 minute ago
I said a good number, I'm not going to have an exact figure when no one has a clue how many immigrants are here am I
BlueBells has already backed this up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thought as much. Keep lapping up the Farage/UKIP rhetoric and passing it off as fact.
However if you do some research there is information on this;
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/datablog/2015/nov/10/eu-migrants-on-benefits-separating-the-statistics-from-the-spin
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/how-many-eu-migrants-claim-benefits-in-the-uk/
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/welfare/2016/06/how-much-do-benefits-paid-eu-migrants-cost-britain
With this being an example of the information gleaned
"Immigrants were also reported to have contributed more than £3bn in income taxes, while claiming roughly £0.5bn in benefits"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
boy, you're really going for it tonight aren't you darling
I think you're losing the ability to see what I'm saying through just not liking me now Feet, how did it get to this?
How many times do I need to say that Immigration is not about money it's about the numbers? Greedy people
posted on 13/10/16
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 25 seconds ago
I don't class it as a sweeping statement.
----
Maybe this is one of your problems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just being honest, I've lived in a very heavily popoulated city for a long time and witnessed the devestation that taking a heavy number of poor and state dependant immigrants has caused, you may not like to hear that but it's true and that's one of many cities and towns across Britain.
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