So if I prove it to you will you denounce Hillary?

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You can't.

you will you denounce Hillary?

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I have already told you I can't stand her. We are probably well into double figures on this now.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
you will you denounce Hillary?

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I have already told you I can't stand her. We are probably well into double figures on this now.
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She is worse than Trump, that is the point.

comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 11 minutes ago
https://youtu.be/7LYRUOd_QoM

Think need To look At This
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My phone texting is really playing up I'm not really this illiterate

She is worse than Trump, that is the point.

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No she isn't. Your point is wrong. It is wrong because 90% of what Trump has said about her is a lie. You have been shown this time and time again.

Here is one example of many. Trump accused her of being responsible for the removal of Gadaffi. That was the UN, not her.

My phone texting is really playing up I'm not really this illiterate

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You are not very intelligent, that is for sure. You have to be one thick dude to believe all the crap trump comes out with.

Here is another Trump lie. Clinton is responsible for creating ISIS.

No she isn't. That would be George Bush.

Look at the documentary 7.8 on IMDB

This was from the fact checkers after the first debate.

In PolitiFact scorecards, Clinton's comments were 22 percent "true," 28 percent "mostly true," 22 percent "half true," 15 percent "mostly false," and 11 percent "false," and 2 percent "pants on fire."

Those numbers fare much better than Trump's scorecard, in which his comments were 4 percent "true," 11 percent "mostly true," 15 percent "half true," 17 percent "mostly false," 34 percent "false," and 18 percent "pants on fire."

18 % of Trumps comments were total lies. Staggering.

It is easy to see how you have been brainwashed by him.

Here is another Trump lie. Clinton is responsible for creating ISIS.

No she isn't. That would be George Bush.
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I don't agree with this. Not one person created the terrorist group we see today. Not Bush, not Clinton, not Obama. It was years of conflicts of different radical groups the region and outside forces that formed the organization you see today.

I don't agree with this.

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I don't care whether you agree with it or not.

It is a fact that Bush put his signature down for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Thus creating the vacumn that was filled with ISIS.

But you are right in that it wasn't just Bush, Clinton or Obamma.

The point is, it was a blatant lie by Trump.

Trump is targeting Clinton in this. He has nothing to gain by accusing Bush, Obama, etc.

Clinton definitely had a hand in creating ISIS, so is it really a lie?

Clinton had a hand in ousting Gaddafi too btw. don't kid yourself. she may not had a finger in the trigger but she was one of those who provided the bullet.

Doesn't all this boil down to Clinton has hand a hand in everything bad (and no doubt loads of good stuff, but that's dull), because she's been involved with the government - Trump hasn't, because he's just been arsing around with casinos and strippers.

^"had a hand"

Clinton definitely had a hand in creating ISIS, so is it really a lie?

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What do you think her hand in creating ISIS was? As far as I can tell the only hand she had in it may have been voting for the war in Iraq.

That in itself is not 'Hilary Clinton created ISIS, is it?

that's my point. the fact that Trump is running against Hillary and not Obama, Bush, etc is why he's only accusing her.

Trump speaks in absolutes. That's why it sounds like he's blatantly lying. He has nothing to gain from calling out Bush, Obama, etc when his real opponent is Clinton.

hat's my point. the fact that Trump is running against Hillary and not Obama, Bush, etc is why he's only accusing her.

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Which is why it is a lie.

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Trump speaks in absolutes. That's why it sounds like he's blatantly lying.

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It sound like he is blatantly lying because he is. He is a bull$hit artist.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 29 minutes ago
This was from the fact checkers after the first debate.

In PolitiFact scorecards, Clinton's comments were 22 percent "true," 28 percent "mostly true," 22 percent "half true," 15 percent "mostly false," and 11 percent "false," and 2 percent "pants on fire."

Those numbers fare much better than Trump's scorecard, in which his comments were 4 percent "true," 11 percent "mostly true," 15 percent "half true," 17 percent "mostly false," 34 percent "false," and 18 percent "pants on fire."

18 % of Trumps comments were total lies. Staggering.

It is easy to see how you have been brainwashed by him.
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They are 3 types of lies. Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

They are 3 types of lies. Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

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Trump uses two out of three to back him up. He invents the other one.

So you don't deny he is a liar? Or you think the lie count was wrong? Or that they've been represented as percentages is bothering you?

And Hillary isn't a bullsshit artist? You're acting like Hillary is a saint. She's far from it and has a history to back it. If she doesn't, why is she being scrutinized by the FBI?

She voted for the war in Iraq and her department and Obama were too eager to pack up and leave is why a lot of people are accusing her of having a hand in creating ISIS. She isn't walking out blame free on this.

"You're acting like Hillary is a saint. "

Who, on this entire thread, are you talking about with this?

Everyone knows they're both s, and most has said as much.

@henryscat

At VC.

I agree. Both are but Trump is only a with his mouth whilst Hillary is a with her actions.

And Hillary isn't a bullsshit artist? You're acting like Hillary is a saint.

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Of course she is a bull
$hit artist. She is a politician.

Just not in the same league as Donny.

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her department and Obama were too eager to pack up and leave

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Her Department was not the DoD. What do you think the US State Departments role in Iraq was?

The State Department handles all the diplomacy and foreign affairs issues.

Are you an American VC?