comment by Planète des Singes - "We will come back stronger!"🎬🚀🌎💣🎇🙈🙉🙊🌏🗽 (U4158)
Boxing can be a subtle art sometimes.
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You're quite right, of course there are those occasions when it is overt.....
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 54 minutes ago
Kovalev won the fight. Any that isn't bias and knows boxing knows Kovalev won the fight.
The US is getting as bad as the UK for these hometown decisions
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Paulie M knows boxing..predicted a kov victory before fight but gave it to ward...explain why he was biased?
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Paulie is biased as feck. Very pro American.
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 54 minutes ago
Kovalev won the fight. Any that isn't bias and knows boxing knows Kovalev won the fight.
The US is getting as bad as the UK for these hometown decisions
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Paulie M knows boxing..predicted a kov victory before fight but gave it to ward...explain why he was biased?
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Paulie is biased as feck. Very pro American.
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Why before the fight was he pro kov then? You just hate cos he was biased against many (il admit that!)
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
Perhaps the Kovalev fans need to accept that he may have been able to steamroller lesser fighters but Ward is a class apart; which he proved on the night.
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Not everyone who thinks that Kovalev won is a Kovalev fan. I'm certainly not. This really hasn't got anything to do with who you support. It's about the judges calling fights properly.
Maybe there needs to be an overhaul in the way that fights are scored because the current model doesn't work well enough and Compubox is nothing more than two guys ringside tapping a button, which is equally fallible.
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Just as not wry one who thought Ward won is a Ward fan.
I personally can't stand him but I scored the fight for him, in what was a razor close fight.
How anyone can claim there was a robbery is beyond me.. there was no clear winner. If you think that was a robbery then you don't watch a lot of boxing, or you don't know what to look for.
For the final time it was a close fight, very close and I can honestly see the arguement for maybe Kov getting a decision or a draw... THAT is being objective coming on here and blatantly saying it was a total robbery is not understanding the sport or the fight are are being obtuse. saying Kov was robbed or it was a shutout is just wrong or a WUM
Looking like Ward might duck the rematch.
Further proof he knows he got lucky
I had kov winning by 2 rounds but I didn't think it was a "robbing" all but 2 rounds were close and hard to score however It looks like ward has been given every/most "close" rounds which is why it's not a robbing!
It's a 10 point system and this is why it's hard to judge
Bradley provodnikov was a prime example of how 10 point system doesn't work
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I would have him there abouts
Think you would have to have Kovalev above Ward as he did win the fight.
Similar to when Pacquaio beat Bradley in the first fight.
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Kov also looked a lot bigger and the fight was no where near as close as pac Bradley
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
Perhaps the Kovalev fans need to accept that he may have been able to steamroller lesser fighters but Ward is a class apart; which he proved on the night.
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Not everyone who thinks that Kovalev won is a Kovalev fan. I'm certainly not. This really hasn't got anything to do with who you support. It's about the judges calling fights properly.
Maybe there needs to be an overhaul in the way that fights are scored because the current model doesn't work well enough and Compubox is nothing more than two guys ringside tapping a button, which is equally fallible.
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Just as not wry one who thought Ward won is a Ward fan.
I personally can't stand him but I scored the fight for him, in what was a razor close fight.
How anyone can claim there was a robbery is beyond me.. there was no clear winner. If you think that was a robbery then you don't watch a lot of boxing, or you don't know what to look for.
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Well I've never said it was a robbery. The fight was a reasonably close one apart from Ward getting knocked on his backside. Two very good fighters going head to head. Kovalev still clearly won the fight though and no way did Ward win the seven rounds required to stop Kovalev winning the fight.
Kov didn't clearly win the fight, that's why there's such a difference of opinion with people. You can have it either way imo (I had Ward by 1) can't wait for the rematch but wish people would stop shouting 'robbery' it just looks daft
There were some close ones but there were enough early on which Kov won clearly, include a 10-8 in that and it is hard to come up with a Ward victory.
Just for the sake of arguements sake here is the official compubox round by round stats of the fight. This is only a reference to the fight it by no means tells the whole story but defo highlights somethings make of it what you will....Except you D4, you can just spin it to suit your agenda regardless of how contradictory it may make your previous points......
http://imgur.com/iApfib6
It shows that in total Kov landed 10 more punches than Ward in the whole fight however landed 13 more punches in round 2 alone.....It shows far more accurate and effective work in terms of total punches thrown.
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comment by The Guvnor IV -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 35 minutes ago
No point debating with D4. He still thinks Pacquiao beat Floyd ffs
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The actual punches landed prove it. It is all recorded for everyone to see.
Shocking to hear the commentators say a Floyd punch landed when the video evidence clearly says something different. And shocking for them to ignore all Pacquiao's scoring blows, and praise Floyd's cheating.
Round 10 of Kov Ward is a stinker for the judges. Kov takes the round easily, but somehow all the judges give it to Ward.
Obvious the fix was in
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comment by SWAG Banana (U3245)
posted 4 minutes ago
so I take it you dont need to watch fights then?
you just look up the "punches landed" stat and that tells you the winner?
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Not the stats, but watching the actual punches landing.
Because Pacquiao through in flurries, most people missed his landed punches. And just because Floyd shakes his head doesn't mean the punches didn't land. Seemed to fool the casuals though.
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comment by SWAG Banana (U3245)
posted about an hour ago
and the judges... and 99% of the experts.
D4 is the ancient aliens of boxing ffs
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Media bias
Ward won simples Kov got slowed down by the boday punches.
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posted on 21/11/16
comment by Planète des Singes - "We will come back stronger!"🎬🚀🌎💣🎇🙈🙉🙊🌏🗽 (U4158)
Boxing can be a subtle art sometimes.
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You're quite right, of course there are those occasions when it is overt.....
posted on 21/11/16
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 54 minutes ago
Kovalev won the fight. Any that isn't bias and knows boxing knows Kovalev won the fight.
The US is getting as bad as the UK for these hometown decisions
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Paulie M knows boxing..predicted a kov victory before fight but gave it to ward...explain why he was biased?
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Paulie is biased as feck. Very pro American.
posted on 21/11/16
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 54 minutes ago
Kovalev won the fight. Any that isn't bias and knows boxing knows Kovalev won the fight.
The US is getting as bad as the UK for these hometown decisions
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Paulie M knows boxing..predicted a kov victory before fight but gave it to ward...explain why he was biased?
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Paulie is biased as feck. Very pro American.
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Why before the fight was he pro kov then? You just hate cos he was biased against many (il admit that!)
posted on 22/11/16
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
Perhaps the Kovalev fans need to accept that he may have been able to steamroller lesser fighters but Ward is a class apart; which he proved on the night.
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Not everyone who thinks that Kovalev won is a Kovalev fan. I'm certainly not. This really hasn't got anything to do with who you support. It's about the judges calling fights properly.
Maybe there needs to be an overhaul in the way that fights are scored because the current model doesn't work well enough and Compubox is nothing more than two guys ringside tapping a button, which is equally fallible.
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Just as not wry one who thought Ward won is a Ward fan.
I personally can't stand him but I scored the fight for him, in what was a razor close fight.
How anyone can claim there was a robbery is beyond me.. there was no clear winner. If you think that was a robbery then you don't watch a lot of boxing, or you don't know what to look for.
posted on 22/11/16
For the final time it was a close fight, very close and I can honestly see the arguement for maybe Kov getting a decision or a draw... THAT is being objective coming on here and blatantly saying it was a total robbery is not understanding the sport or the fight are are being obtuse. saying Kov was robbed or it was a shutout is just wrong or a WUM
posted on 22/11/16
Looking like Ward might duck the rematch.
Further proof he knows he got lucky
posted on 22/11/16
I had kov winning by 2 rounds but I didn't think it was a "robbing" all but 2 rounds were close and hard to score however It looks like ward has been given every/most "close" rounds which is why it's not a robbing!
It's a 10 point system and this is why it's hard to judge
Bradley provodnikov was a prime example of how 10 point system doesn't work
posted on 22/11/16
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posted on 22/11/16
I would have him there abouts
posted on 22/11/16
Think you would have to have Kovalev above Ward as he did win the fight.
Similar to when Pacquaio beat Bradley in the first fight.
posted on 22/11/16
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posted on 22/11/16
Kov also looked a lot bigger and the fight was no where near as close as pac Bradley
posted on 22/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
Perhaps the Kovalev fans need to accept that he may have been able to steamroller lesser fighters but Ward is a class apart; which he proved on the night.
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Not everyone who thinks that Kovalev won is a Kovalev fan. I'm certainly not. This really hasn't got anything to do with who you support. It's about the judges calling fights properly.
Maybe there needs to be an overhaul in the way that fights are scored because the current model doesn't work well enough and Compubox is nothing more than two guys ringside tapping a button, which is equally fallible.
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Just as not wry one who thought Ward won is a Ward fan.
I personally can't stand him but I scored the fight for him, in what was a razor close fight.
How anyone can claim there was a robbery is beyond me.. there was no clear winner. If you think that was a robbery then you don't watch a lot of boxing, or you don't know what to look for.
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Well I've never said it was a robbery. The fight was a reasonably close one apart from Ward getting knocked on his backside. Two very good fighters going head to head. Kovalev still clearly won the fight though and no way did Ward win the seven rounds required to stop Kovalev winning the fight.
posted on 23/11/16
Kov didn't clearly win the fight, that's why there's such a difference of opinion with people. You can have it either way imo (I had Ward by 1) can't wait for the rematch but wish people would stop shouting 'robbery' it just looks daft
posted on 23/11/16
There were some close ones but there were enough early on which Kov won clearly, include a 10-8 in that and it is hard to come up with a Ward victory.
posted on 23/11/16
Just for the sake of arguements sake here is the official compubox round by round stats of the fight. This is only a reference to the fight it by no means tells the whole story but defo highlights somethings make of it what you will....Except you D4, you can just spin it to suit your agenda regardless of how contradictory it may make your previous points......
http://imgur.com/iApfib6
It shows that in total Kov landed 10 more punches than Ward in the whole fight however landed 13 more punches in round 2 alone.....It shows far more accurate and effective work in terms of total punches thrown.
posted on 23/11/16
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posted on 23/11/16
comment by The Guvnor IV -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 35 minutes ago
No point debating with D4. He still thinks Pacquiao beat Floyd ffs
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The actual punches landed prove it. It is all recorded for everyone to see.
Shocking to hear the commentators say a Floyd punch landed when the video evidence clearly says something different. And shocking for them to ignore all Pacquiao's scoring blows, and praise Floyd's cheating.
posted on 23/11/16
Round 10 of Kov Ward is a stinker for the judges. Kov takes the round easily, but somehow all the judges give it to Ward.
Obvious the fix was in
posted on 23/11/16
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posted on 23/11/16
comment by SWAG Banana (U3245)
posted 4 minutes ago
so I take it you dont need to watch fights then?
you just look up the "punches landed" stat and that tells you the winner?
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Not the stats, but watching the actual punches landing.
Because Pacquiao through in flurries, most people missed his landed punches. And just because Floyd shakes his head doesn't mean the punches didn't land. Seemed to fool the casuals though.
posted on 23/11/16
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posted on 23/11/16
comment by SWAG Banana (U3245)
posted about an hour ago
and the judges... and 99% of the experts.
D4 is the ancient aliens of boxing ffs
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Media bias
posted on 14/12/16
Ward won simples Kov got slowed down by the boday punches.
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