comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Kung fu.
How many cross worshippers have Israel targeted for murder there????
You are doing the hec Whatabouttery dance here.
Do you mean Jews are stopping Christians from worshipping?
Not security related to the region at all?
This Islamist hate and grnocidexagainst Christians and western crusaders as Isis call them does not have to be dragged into the Israeli Palestine conflict, but nice try at deflecting from a cancer in political fundamentalist Islamism.
Not all muslims as we know, but a minority using and abusing Islam to justify murder and sectarianism and ethnic cleansing.
Time to move forward and embrace liberal life in the 21st century.
Caliphate cobblers has to be countered.
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You clearly only care about the Christians killed by Muslims, any Christian murdered or oppressed by a politician or people you support isn’t talked about by you.
Palestinian Christians suffer daily because of Israel, you’ll never acknowledge it and you’ll always have an excuse for it.
Jerusalem isn’t Israeli, Christian Palestinians shouldn’t need a permit to enter the City!!!!!
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Yes I hate Muslims and only care about Christians.....that was what I am saying.
When I condemn the natzi attacks on the mosque it marks I do not condemn the attack on the mosque.
Great debate.
Thought we moved beyond lazy accusations, but hey ho.
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 24 seconds ago
Did you hear Trump mock poor black voters for being thick and into religion.....And saying Muslims only had their Koran to live for???
Neither did I.😉
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‘Shiiithole countries’ Posting an inflammatory story (exited to display in wrong context) video about the Democrat Muslim representative. Many, many others.
Christ tbab you couldn’t have picked a worse person to hold as an example.
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My point is... Obama said similar stuff and it was not brought up in the way you have just highlighted for me.
Trump is a tool.....
Obama and Hilary are not meant to be ...but still have their little racist and superior moments with the white deplorable bible folk.
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Obama has done nothing like what trump has done. Trump has gone out of his way to be confrontational and controversial, Obama simply made comments that have wording you don’t agree with.
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Obama has used words that all right thinking people view as wrong and if they were said by Trump about s certain group, would be rightly called racist and mocking.
Hilary used deplorable and lost to a clown..
Analyse that.😂
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Kung fu.
How many cross worshippers have Israel targeted for murder there????
You are doing the hec Whatabouttery dance here.
Do you mean Jews are stopping Christians from worshipping?
Not security related to the region at all?
This Islamist hate and grnocidexagainst Christians and western crusaders as Isis call them does not have to be dragged into the Israeli Palestine conflict, but nice try at deflecting from a cancer in political fundamentalist Islamism.
Not all muslims as we know, but a minority using and abusing Islam to justify murder and sectarianism and ethnic cleansing.
Time to move forward and embrace liberal life in the 21st century.
Caliphate cobblers has to be countered.
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You clearly only care about the Christians killed by Muslims, any Christian murdered or oppressed by a politician or people you support isn’t talked about by you.
Palestinian Christians suffer daily because of Israel, you’ll never acknowledge it and you’ll always have an excuse for it.
Jerusalem isn’t Israeli, Christian Palestinians shouldn’t need a permit to enter the City!!!!!
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I have actually referred to hard line Israeli youths vandalizing Christian churches and I have neve welcomed persecution of new, muslim or Christian.
I am not here talking about Israel at all, and you have sought to go there as we were talking about Sri Lanka in the main.
Do not imagine you know my thoughts...especially as you blatantly ignore my posts supporting the Rohinja and Chinese muslim plight, and I condemn the NZ mosque brutality and attacks on Brum mosques here.....
How do you misread so badly?
I have also said I want Israel and Palestine to be at peace in two states and with no dead.
I am not some Israeli puppet or racist cretin hating Islam and cursing the prophet.
You and I are in a tiny minority of believers and people of faith here, and look at the classy example we are setting.😂😂🙏
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
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Mosque attack .not mosque.
Went all Batten Vilders
Kfc.
What is your take on Isis and offshoots continuing the holy war against crusaders from Afghanistan through Pakistan to Sri Lanka and Phillipinnes, into Syria and Iraq and north Africa....then Europe and America and Canada.???
How do we stop this as it will fuel far right groups from NZ, Oz, Europe, UK and N America.
Ask the bnp or National Action if they condemn racist attacked and murder...on Cox or S Lawrence, for example.
If they say they are against All violence, but will not refer to specifics, what could we infer?
Why not say the Cox murder was wrong and not widen the conversation.
When SF were asked to condemn murder by their comrades they would say they are not in the business of condemnation...And then they switched to all violence is wrong.
Now they say new ra violence is wrong because dissidents are their opponents and make SF look bad by killing a young lgbt girl in Derry.
Words mean everything at times.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
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I mock organised religion, its hypocrisies, misogyny and regressions.
If you're a person of Faith, that's your choice andni respect you enough that you should go about your business peacefully, just as its my choice to deride a majority of religious teachings regardless of which thousand year old book you think relevant in the 21st century.
If you struggle with that opinion...forgive me!
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
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I mock organised religion, its hypocrisies, misogyny and regressions.
If you're a person of Faith, that's your choice andni respect you enough that you should go about your business peacefully, just as its my choice to deride a majority of religious teachings regardless of which thousand year old book you think relevant in the 21st century.
If you struggle with that opinion...forgive me!
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I agree with the bulk of that.
The above was not actually the jist of earlier posts though regarding global Islamist terrorism and fundamentalism....mixing politic, power and faith.
This is not merely a theological debate about spirituality.....if it ever was that.
This is about Isis and similar groups.
It was about criticising 2 former politicians tweets.
People can make fun of religion if they want, I don't care as long as it's not malicious, comedians do it all the time. What bothers me is when 'new atheists' start using dangerous rhetoric to ridicule religion.
It bothers me more when people start misquoting the Quran or start using divisive words like 'Islamist'.
My concern is that you love Israel and America so much that you have forgotten about the Christians in Palestine and Venezuela suffering at the hands of these governments.
I talk about Palestine as a people, feck Hamas and Mahmoud Abbas.
You keep on saying nice things about Trump, he literally said people like me should be put on lists and watched. That we should ALL not be allowed to enter America and that Islam hates America. These are all facts, he DID say those things.
You are blind to it BlueBells, you'll be on here next talking about how Corbyn hates Jews when he hasn't said anything a fraction as bad as the things above.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 18 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
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The two aren't really the same though, on the one hand you're talking about someone being asked to condemn the various actions of a group or people and on the other you're asking me to condemn the actions of an invidual (whatever he may claim to represent) in a specific action.
As I understand it, Corbyn was asked whether he condemned the violent methods used to achieve a goal - to which he essentially answered he condemned the use of violence whatever the goal. I'm really not sure what answer would have made you happy - presumably him shouting, "yes, death to the murdering provo b-stards!", without a hint of irony.
Kfc.
I do not like Trump and hope he goes asap.
I do not love Israel or America.
I do not think the far crazy leftists did Venezuela any favours but that is not to say I back America in this area....I do not.
I oppose most western American I prevention.
I do not dispute that Palestine gets it tough and therefore Christians there suffer.
I am not what you imagine.
I have not said a kind word about TRUMP, other than to put Hilary and him on context or to say I understand where some American libertarian voters come from...call them populist or patriots, but they are the same as Arab nationalists or religious people anywhere.
Bit more than tweets from 2 people hec....but that ended up being a theme.
I focus on the cause and reason for death more tbh at the hands of Islamist nutters.
Tweets are sideshow as I said.
Henry
You are wise enough to know people use Words carefully to signal to supporters and make political points ....even in death and terror, or especially then.
I could give numerous examples that could then be dismissed, so I will not bother boring you.
Of course I have bias and can be partisan, but I try to condemn and call it as it is when any side cross the humanity line.
Then again!
I am not in poltical party.
Tbh, I wish people would use words much more carefully than they do. Too often a quick response is given when a more considered one is more appropriate. We see it here all the time, let alone in the big bad, outside world. What then follows is pages of arguments about a misunderstood point, with most people not willing to give ground or say, "sorry, I missed your point there - I acutally agree. lol.", etc.
Very true, Henry.
I am often guilty of bring on thread a with guys having a go as I admitted to be g Christian or brexit or voting Dup against SF and then it all kicks off and I retaliate.
Stepping back in recent times, I realise I am more easy going and liberal in my personal life than the average punter, yet here I am labelled a far right facist thug by strangers.
I do play along at times and wum but when I see kfc say I like Trump and Love Israel and America I am amazed how folk take posts???
By giving devil's advocate a go or not being Remain of Corbynista it is assumed we are facist...
However, when I support Muslims in China or say Trump is a clown and the dup are corrupt and leave have no economic plans...these posts are less s3xy and so get ignored.
I have been called a bigot even though I married a Catholic and a homophobe even though I have said I am bi.I also hate woman because I have issues with some abortion late on .
My best way for all to be more civil is stay away from 24/7 news and social media.
And have more laughs
Oh look...I guess it pays to buy a President, Bra funding in action: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/26/trump-nra-united-nations-arms-treaty-gun-control
Nra, though bra’s are more useful than those Fack sticks
Baz.
Bunch of didfies all round.
I am not into guns even being from greater Belfast, but I kinda respect the American culture of freedom and independence from big govt....just sad that evil dudes have shooters along with millions of good folk.
The nra are utter cuhnts though. Think as pig shiiit aswell, at least their spokesmen seem to be
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kfc-you can’t post shiiit like that without proof. As you will well know having arguably been through similar yourself in the past against the likes of rdd.... So is there proof of that?
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He literally talks up racists all the time.
Ask him about Sam Harris, he loooves him! This fine gentleman supports a book called the bell curve, which claims black people aren't as intelligent as whites on a genetic level.
The same guy also said Jews were to blame for the holocaust.
Robb him self has called Arabs savages.
He also follows Lauren Southern and talks fondly about her as well... she worked for Rebel Media, a production house who's star is Tommy Robinson. She has videos of her self on youtube where she literally walks around Paris complaining that there isn't enough white people in the streets.
It's this lovely lady...
https://i2.wp.com/alt-right.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lauren-Southern.png?ssl=1
She's called black lives matter a terrorist organisation and she also shares platforms with people who endorse the bell curve book. She was on stage with Stephan Molyneux when he said:
"The aborigines had Australia for 40,000 years. You have had it for a tiny fraction of that time (white people). And look at what You have done. And you are supposed to feel guilty about this?"
These are the people he champions! I know what a racist looks like and I know what they sound like.
Fair enough kfc, that’s pretty murky and disgusting list of awful scuuum to follow, but I haven’t seen him make a racist remark on here.
I do recall the savage Arab thread, and I think he might have been taken out of context a little, I thu k he was referring to the actions of some isolated Arab communities in terms of how they treat homosexuals and the whole honour killing thing-which to be fair is disgusting and uncivilised. I might be wrong on that though.
Cheers for the reply on that
No problem Baz, just know that I would never use the race card without meaning it.
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posted on 25/4/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Kung fu.
How many cross worshippers have Israel targeted for murder there????
You are doing the hec Whatabouttery dance here.
Do you mean Jews are stopping Christians from worshipping?
Not security related to the region at all?
This Islamist hate and grnocidexagainst Christians and western crusaders as Isis call them does not have to be dragged into the Israeli Palestine conflict, but nice try at deflecting from a cancer in political fundamentalist Islamism.
Not all muslims as we know, but a minority using and abusing Islam to justify murder and sectarianism and ethnic cleansing.
Time to move forward and embrace liberal life in the 21st century.
Caliphate cobblers has to be countered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You clearly only care about the Christians killed by Muslims, any Christian murdered or oppressed by a politician or people you support isn’t talked about by you.
Palestinian Christians suffer daily because of Israel, you’ll never acknowledge it and you’ll always have an excuse for it.
Jerusalem isn’t Israeli, Christian Palestinians shouldn’t need a permit to enter the City!!!!!
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Yes I hate Muslims and only care about Christians.....that was what I am saying.
When I condemn the natzi attacks on the mosque it marks I do not condemn the attack on the mosque.
Great debate.
Thought we moved beyond lazy accusations, but hey ho.
posted on 25/4/19
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 24 seconds ago
Did you hear Trump mock poor black voters for being thick and into religion.....And saying Muslims only had their Koran to live for???
Neither did I.😉
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‘Shiiithole countries’ Posting an inflammatory story (exited to display in wrong context) video about the Democrat Muslim representative. Many, many others.
Christ tbab you couldn’t have picked a worse person to hold as an example.
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My point is... Obama said similar stuff and it was not brought up in the way you have just highlighted for me.
Trump is a tool.....
Obama and Hilary are not meant to be ...but still have their little racist and superior moments with the white deplorable bible folk.
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Obama has done nothing like what trump has done. Trump has gone out of his way to be confrontational and controversial, Obama simply made comments that have wording you don’t agree with.
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Obama has used words that all right thinking people view as wrong and if they were said by Trump about s certain group, would be rightly called racist and mocking.
Hilary used deplorable and lost to a clown..
Analyse that.😂
posted on 25/4/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
posted on 25/4/19
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
posted on 25/4/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 hours, 34 minutes ago
Kung fu.
How many cross worshippers have Israel targeted for murder there????
You are doing the hec Whatabouttery dance here.
Do you mean Jews are stopping Christians from worshipping?
Not security related to the region at all?
This Islamist hate and grnocidexagainst Christians and western crusaders as Isis call them does not have to be dragged into the Israeli Palestine conflict, but nice try at deflecting from a cancer in political fundamentalist Islamism.
Not all muslims as we know, but a minority using and abusing Islam to justify murder and sectarianism and ethnic cleansing.
Time to move forward and embrace liberal life in the 21st century.
Caliphate cobblers has to be countered.
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You clearly only care about the Christians killed by Muslims, any Christian murdered or oppressed by a politician or people you support isn’t talked about by you.
Palestinian Christians suffer daily because of Israel, you’ll never acknowledge it and you’ll always have an excuse for it.
Jerusalem isn’t Israeli, Christian Palestinians shouldn’t need a permit to enter the City!!!!!
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I have actually referred to hard line Israeli youths vandalizing Christian churches and I have neve welcomed persecution of new, muslim or Christian.
I am not here talking about Israel at all, and you have sought to go there as we were talking about Sri Lanka in the main.
Do not imagine you know my thoughts...especially as you blatantly ignore my posts supporting the Rohinja and Chinese muslim plight, and I condemn the NZ mosque brutality and attacks on Brum mosques here.....
How do you misread so badly?
I have also said I want Israel and Palestine to be at peace in two states and with no dead.
I am not some Israeli puppet or racist cretin hating Islam and cursing the prophet.
You and I are in a tiny minority of believers and people of faith here, and look at the classy example we are setting.😂😂🙏
posted on 25/4/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
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Mosque attack .not mosque.
Went all Batten Vilders
posted on 25/4/19
Kfc.
What is your take on Isis and offshoots continuing the holy war against crusaders from Afghanistan through Pakistan to Sri Lanka and Phillipinnes, into Syria and Iraq and north Africa....then Europe and America and Canada.???
How do we stop this as it will fuel far right groups from NZ, Oz, Europe, UK and N America.
posted on 25/4/19
Ask the bnp or National Action if they condemn racist attacked and murder...on Cox or S Lawrence, for example.
If they say they are against All violence, but will not refer to specifics, what could we infer?
Why not say the Cox murder was wrong and not widen the conversation.
When SF were asked to condemn murder by their comrades they would say they are not in the business of condemnation...And then they switched to all violence is wrong.
Now they say new ra violence is wrong because dissidents are their opponents and make SF look bad by killing a young lgbt girl in Derry.
Words mean everything at times.
posted on 25/4/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
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I mock organised religion, its hypocrisies, misogyny and regressions.
If you're a person of Faith, that's your choice andni respect you enough that you should go about your business peacefully, just as its my choice to deride a majority of religious teachings regardless of which thousand year old book you think relevant in the 21st century.
If you struggle with that opinion...forgive me!
posted on 25/4/19
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 4 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 26 minutes ago
FYI Arab Christians call God ‘ALLAH’ it isn’t exclusive to Muslims.
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Hec and friends mock God, Jesus Mohammed and Allah so perhaps address them first.
Hec said God or Allah was white.
I should have asked him what colour Mohammed was then.
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I mock organised religion, its hypocrisies, misogyny and regressions.
If you're a person of Faith, that's your choice andni respect you enough that you should go about your business peacefully, just as its my choice to deride a majority of religious teachings regardless of which thousand year old book you think relevant in the 21st century.
If you struggle with that opinion...forgive me!
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I agree with the bulk of that.
The above was not actually the jist of earlier posts though regarding global Islamist terrorism and fundamentalism....mixing politic, power and faith.
This is not merely a theological debate about spirituality.....if it ever was that.
This is about Isis and similar groups.
posted on 25/4/19
It was about criticising 2 former politicians tweets.
posted on 25/4/19
People can make fun of religion if they want, I don't care as long as it's not malicious, comedians do it all the time. What bothers me is when 'new atheists' start using dangerous rhetoric to ridicule religion.
It bothers me more when people start misquoting the Quran or start using divisive words like 'Islamist'.
My concern is that you love Israel and America so much that you have forgotten about the Christians in Palestine and Venezuela suffering at the hands of these governments.
I talk about Palestine as a people, feck Hamas and Mahmoud Abbas.
You keep on saying nice things about Trump, he literally said people like me should be put on lists and watched. That we should ALL not be allowed to enter America and that Islam hates America. These are all facts, he DID say those things.
You are blind to it BlueBells, you'll be on here next talking about how Corbyn hates Jews when he hasn't said anything a fraction as bad as the things above.
posted on 26/4/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 18 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 22 minutes ago
"Corbyn when asked to condemn Provo violence said he condemned all violence."
Not sure what's wrong with this, tbh.
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If a far right guy was asked to specifically condemn the Cox or mosque murders and they said they condemned all violence, it sends a certain message out.
...No prevarication or deflecting.
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To me it sends the message that you condemn all violence. But I'm not cynical enough perhaps.
Saying you condemn all violence is significantly less prevarication than making a list of eveyrone committing violence and condemning each one in turn. I can't help but feel you're stretching a bit here to just have a pop unreasonably.
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As ever, we agree to disagree...except on litter louts and lazy colleagues.😊
If you are asked do you condemn the mosque NZ..what would you say?
Why not say it is a white supremacist who hates Muslims to tell it as it is?
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The two aren't really the same though, on the one hand you're talking about someone being asked to condemn the various actions of a group or people and on the other you're asking me to condemn the actions of an invidual (whatever he may claim to represent) in a specific action.
As I understand it, Corbyn was asked whether he condemned the violent methods used to achieve a goal - to which he essentially answered he condemned the use of violence whatever the goal. I'm really not sure what answer would have made you happy - presumably him shouting, "yes, death to the murdering provo b-stards!", without a hint of irony.
posted on 26/4/19
Kfc.
I do not like Trump and hope he goes asap.
I do not love Israel or America.
I do not think the far crazy leftists did Venezuela any favours but that is not to say I back America in this area....I do not.
I oppose most western American I prevention.
I do not dispute that Palestine gets it tough and therefore Christians there suffer.
I am not what you imagine.
I have not said a kind word about TRUMP, other than to put Hilary and him on context or to say I understand where some American libertarian voters come from...call them populist or patriots, but they are the same as Arab nationalists or religious people anywhere.
posted on 26/4/19
Bit more than tweets from 2 people hec....but that ended up being a theme.
I focus on the cause and reason for death more tbh at the hands of Islamist nutters.
Tweets are sideshow as I said.
posted on 26/4/19
Henry
You are wise enough to know people use Words carefully to signal to supporters and make political points ....even in death and terror, or especially then.
I could give numerous examples that could then be dismissed, so I will not bother boring you.
Of course I have bias and can be partisan, but I try to condemn and call it as it is when any side cross the humanity line.
Then again!
I am not in poltical party.
posted on 26/4/19
Tbh, I wish people would use words much more carefully than they do. Too often a quick response is given when a more considered one is more appropriate. We see it here all the time, let alone in the big bad, outside world. What then follows is pages of arguments about a misunderstood point, with most people not willing to give ground or say, "sorry, I missed your point there - I acutally agree. lol.", etc.
posted on 26/4/19
Very true, Henry.
I am often guilty of bring on thread a with guys having a go as I admitted to be g Christian or brexit or voting Dup against SF and then it all kicks off and I retaliate.
Stepping back in recent times, I realise I am more easy going and liberal in my personal life than the average punter, yet here I am labelled a far right facist thug by strangers.
I do play along at times and wum but when I see kfc say I like Trump and Love Israel and America I am amazed how folk take posts???
By giving devil's advocate a go or not being Remain of Corbynista it is assumed we are facist...
However, when I support Muslims in China or say Trump is a clown and the dup are corrupt and leave have no economic plans...these posts are less s3xy and so get ignored.
I have been called a bigot even though I married a Catholic and a homophobe even though I have said I am bi.I also hate woman because I have issues with some abortion late on .
My best way for all to be more civil is stay away from 24/7 news and social media.
And have more laughs
posted on 26/4/19
Oh look...I guess it pays to buy a President, Bra funding in action: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/26/trump-nra-united-nations-arms-treaty-gun-control
posted on 26/4/19
Nra, though bra’s are more useful than those Fack sticks
posted on 27/4/19
Baz.
Bunch of didfies all round.
I am not into guns even being from greater Belfast, but I kinda respect the American culture of freedom and independence from big govt....just sad that evil dudes have shooters along with millions of good folk.
posted on 27/4/19
The nra are utter cuhnts though. Think as pig shiiit aswell, at least their spokesmen seem to be
posted on 28/4/19
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 13 seconds ago
Kfc-you can’t post shiiit like that without proof. As you will well know having arguably been through similar yourself in the past against the likes of rdd.... So is there proof of that?
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He literally talks up racists all the time.
Ask him about Sam Harris, he loooves him! This fine gentleman supports a book called the bell curve, which claims black people aren't as intelligent as whites on a genetic level.
The same guy also said Jews were to blame for the holocaust.
Robb him self has called Arabs savages.
He also follows Lauren Southern and talks fondly about her as well... she worked for Rebel Media, a production house who's star is Tommy Robinson. She has videos of her self on youtube where she literally walks around Paris complaining that there isn't enough white people in the streets.
It's this lovely lady...
https://i2.wp.com/alt-right.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lauren-Southern.png?ssl=1
She's called black lives matter a terrorist organisation and she also shares platforms with people who endorse the bell curve book. She was on stage with Stephan Molyneux when he said:
"The aborigines had Australia for 40,000 years. You have had it for a tiny fraction of that time (white people). And look at what You have done. And you are supposed to feel guilty about this?"
These are the people he champions! I know what a racist looks like and I know what they sound like.
posted on 28/4/19
Fair enough kfc, that’s pretty murky and disgusting list of awful scuuum to follow, but I haven’t seen him make a racist remark on here.
I do recall the savage Arab thread, and I think he might have been taken out of context a little, I thu k he was referring to the actions of some isolated Arab communities in terms of how they treat homosexuals and the whole honour killing thing-which to be fair is disgusting and uncivilised. I might be wrong on that though.
Cheers for the reply on that
posted on 28/4/19
No problem Baz, just know that I would never use the race card without meaning it.
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