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comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Edinfam (U1109)
posted 20 seconds ago
Yeah, him and Davis are really good. Latter is getting on a bit, but think Romeu would be good for us.
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More off a tackler than creater right? Think we are covered for that type with Waynama and Dier with even Dembele able at a push to do it

posted on 9/3/17

Would say he is a budget Busquets really. Very good first time passing, which I like in a midfielder.

posted on 9/3/17

Should go for Rooney for around £60m (would make it all back in shirt sales) and cash in on Kane for £45m while you can still get something for him. He is one of those players who isn’t getting any younger.

posted on 9/3/17

comment by <Hengy> (U9129)
posted 20 minutes ago
My reinforcements if could get from abroad too would be:

LB > Sessegnon ( or Tierney )
CM > Tielemans
ST > Lacazette

And if we are really pushing boat out add Isco to the list
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Great call regarding Tielemans a fantastic talent who could cover Alli, Eriksen or drop further back to CM.As good as if not better than Barkley and about £10m cheaper.

Maguire
Sessegnon
Tielemans - If Lamela goes
CF ?? (someone with pace no idea who though)

Out - I was a big advocate for us signing Janssen and Sissoko but they have flopped big time and there cant be a way back for them surely.
The Lamela situation is very strange, I'm a big fan but theres something not right there and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to Italy in the summer.


posted on 9/3/17

Haber

Oh look it's that annoying idiot again. Just got back home from school ?

posted on 9/3/17

Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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yeah but you said drinkwater

might as well suggest mark noble

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 7 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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That's because we wanted to talk about decent players

There's absolutely no value in the premier league as you can see with the Sissoko fiasco

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 9/3/17

Oh and our last young, unproven Lower league player turned out alright

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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yeah but you said drinkwater

might as well suggest mark noble
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England international, Prem league winner, Seems to have done ok, Mr Chronic. It was only a suggestion based on my 'limited' criteria of players that could just slot in.

comment by (U18814)

posted on 9/3/17

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posted on 9/3/17

..., no checked Burberry cap and reebok classics scrotes at our club thanks. Vardy clearly one of those who was part of the snake movement at Leicester, two-bob punk.

What do I want? I want our scouts to earn their facking money and actually get out and about and find the talented yet affordable players and put enough pressure/convincing case to Levy to get them signed.

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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yeah but you said drinkwater

might as well suggest mark noble
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England international, Prem league winner, Seems to have done ok, Mr Chronic. It was only a suggestion based on my 'limited' criteria of players that could just slot in.

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England international is hardly verification of quality these days, nor is being a PL winner...

Kevin Davies
Jay Bothroyd
Leon Osman
Ryan Shawcross
Jake Livermore
Wayne Bridge
Asier Del Horno
Johnny Evans
Danny Welbeck
John Obi Mikel



posted on 9/3/17

comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon (U20121)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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yeah but you said drinkwater

might as well suggest mark noble
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England international, Prem league winner, Seems to have done ok, Mr Chronic. It was only a suggestion based on my 'limited' criteria of players that could just slot in.

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England international is hardly verification of quality these days, nor is being a PL winner...

Kevin Davies
Jay Bothroyd
Leon Osman
Ryan Shawcross
Jake Livermore
Wayne Bridge
Asier Del Horno
Johnny Evans
Danny Welbeck
John Obi Mikel


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Nearly every single one of those above has been decent at some point! FFS, some people are in dreamland that we'll either attract the world's best on small wages or unearth another Alli. Reality check needed I think.

Chronic - care to actually suggest any squad member upgrades or not? 👍

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 9/3/17

How could we unearth another Alli if your not willing to buy any unproven Lower league players?

posted on 9/3/17

comment by <Hengy> (U9129)
posted 1 minute ago
How could we unearth another Alli if your not willing to buy any unproven Lower league players?
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We took the risk with Alli and it has worked amazingly. Players like him are few and far between. All I am asking for are suggestions for players that might slot straight in. Alli was not a given that he'd work out so quickly.

And happy to be a squad player - eg Lacazette would not be a happy bunny on the bench.

All about balance within the squad and Poch has that at present. No superstars and mostly humble types willing to do what they are told to do. No player rebellion likely with our lot if things don't go to plan.

comment by Hengy (U9129)

posted on 9/3/17

So basically you want a couple of Bang average players that do what they are told?

We had 1 in Mason who we just sold so don't you think we should be aiming higher?

We shouldn't be adding squad players other wise we end up with a bench full of players that we don't use like now

posted on 9/3/17

comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon (U20121)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Realistic_Spurs_Fan (U7921)
posted 4 minutes ago
Again, peeps start mentioning UNPROVEN and NON-PREM ESTABLISHED players...hence why my article asked for thoughts based on these two aspects. A teen from Fulham and unproven foreigners playing abroad is not what I wanted to hear. Come on, we want players to hit the ground running - no "he needs a season to bed in" type players, not when they are on 80K a week!!
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yeah but you said drinkwater

might as well suggest mark noble
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England international, Prem league winner, Seems to have done ok, Mr Chronic. It was only a suggestion based on my 'limited' criteria of players that could just slot in.

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England international is hardly verification of quality these days, nor is being a PL winner...

Kevin Davies
Jay Bothroyd
Leon Osman
Ryan Shawcross
Jake Livermore
Wayne Bridge
Asier Del Horno
Johnny Evans
Danny Welbeck
John Obi Mikel


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Nearly every single one of those above has been decent at some point! FFS, some people are in dreamland that we'll either attract the world's best on small wages or unearth another Alli. Reality check needed I think.

Chronic - care to actually suggest any squad member upgrades or not? 👍
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Who said or implied we should find the world's best on minimum wages? I know I facking haven't so I'm pretty sure you're not saying I'm in dreamland?

The fact of the matter is I can list a load of players who everyone knew was talented and were at clubs we could get them from before they improved to the point the top clubs started circling and became unattainable for us:

Griezman:
Helped Sociedad finish in a CL spot in 12/13 and then stayed the following season before Atleti bought him. Now rated in the £70m bracket - we can't get him.

Rakitic:
Showed the ball-playing ability we were severely lacking whilst at Sevilla in 12/13 and 13/14 after his international teammate left us and Dembele was floundering. Played well enough to get a move to Barca where he's been key for most of the time - we can't get him.

Martial:
Available to us for £20m and we needed someone as an alternative to Kane, we baulked at the price and spent 40% less on N'jie. Pace, decent finisher and has the potential. United paid a fortune for him - can't get him.

I can give you more names of players we should have been in for who aren't the "world's best players...." who have sinced moved to clubs at affordable prices and wages such as Dembele at Dortmund, Embolo at Schalke and I can also name you players who've not moved yet but will do soon such as Tielemans, Brandt and Dolberg, which emphasises the fact that we're always caught sleeping until it's too late.

THAT is the reality.


posted on 9/3/17

Out of the list of players whose contract expires soon I really like the look of Andre Gray

Think he would make great back up to Kane, has a bit of pace and eye for goal, 25 years old. Could be our super sub to come on with Kane if we are losing.

We have also been linked to him the last few days so a realistic target.

posted on 9/3/17

Sessgnon, Barkley/Isco for me

posted on 9/3/17

The thing is we can all talk about players we have missed out that were gettable at the time but how about the players we did buy that others missed out on?

Alli - All the big sides knew about his talent, Man utd played against him but chose not to go in for him.

Wanyama - One of the best DM's in the game

Alderweireld - Arguably the best CB in the league

Eriksen - Everyone knew about him. He has more assists than DeBruyne, Ozil, Hazard, Silva etc.

All clubs can be guilty of missing out on players. Why didn't Man u or Chelsea sign Griezman all those years ago?

posted on 9/3/17

Probably because Chelsea and united had the finances to buy the finished article rather than having to go and look for the potential perhaps?

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 10/3/17

A lot of bang average players being suggested here, we want to consolidate top 4 every season not be content with top 6/7

A major issue for me is our lack of creativity in Europe. It's embarrassing. A technical CM is needed, Tielemans is a risk worth taking imo

A back up for Rose is obvious, there's not many clear options tho

Not sure a Zaha or Redmond type player is needed in our system. Although having a good 1 v 1 player in the squad is handy, N'Koudou hasn't really been given the chance to be that player

A back up to Kane is also necessary, I'd personally go for Lacazette, he's scored goals in Ligue 1 for years now and he's not overly-coveted by the big clubs, he can also play wide if need be. We can't risk another Janssen level player

Lloris, Vorm, Pau

Walker, Trippier

Toby, Jan, Dier, Wimmer, Davies, CCV

Rose, ???

Dembele, Wanyama, Tielemans, Winks, Onomah

Eriksen, Dele, Lamela (please don't go 😭), Son

Kane, Lacazette, Janssen

Sell - Fazio, N'Jie, N'Koudou, Sissoko

posted on 10/3/17

So United and Chelsea only sign players who are the finished article?

They deliberately miss out on signing potential just so they can flitter away tens of millions.

Wasnt Uniteds all time record goal scorer bought when he was 18 or 19 years old because he had amazing potential?

Ridiculous statement to make.

posted on 10/3/17

My answer was based on your question which was:

"All clubs can be guilty of missing out on players. Why didn't Man u or Chelsea sign Griezman all those years ago?"

What does Griezmann have to do with Rooney signing for United in 2004? Absolutely nothing clearly.

Quite laughable how you sit there saying I've made a 'ridiculous statement' when you've tried to throw in a transfer that took place over a decade ago to support your vague point

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