And LvG bought players to play the way he wanted. Eg Blind. He may not have been good at it, but he had his reasons.
Jose began by praising LvG, but as time goes on becomes more and more critical. Thus the time to get everything right will take longer than initially thought because of what he inherited.
I do think he will get it right, but would prefer him to do it without complaining. Just be cheerful and get on with it.

4 signings only game. Have to be fairly realistic.

I'd like us to sign:

Bertrand
Rakitic
Griezmann
Michael Keane

Griezmann
Lukaku
Kroos
Mendy

Jose does try to out do Trump with his daft comments.

Saying he wouldn't have sold Welbeck etc.

The same Jose who sold Lukaku etc.

And his lap dogs lap it up.

comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 6 minutes ago
Griezmann
Lukaku
Kroos
Mendy
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89m
65m
60m
35m

he said realistic

comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 16 minutes ago
4 signings only game. Have to be fairly realistic.

I'd like us to sign:

Bertrand
Rakitic
Griezmann
Michael Keane

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We need 2 midfielders imo... Be interesting to see how Tielemens does in the europa games

Greizmann and lukaku? The fack you need both for?

Obviously rashford and martial will both have to move to other clubs then. Sad, united used to nurture special talent like rashford and martial. Now they're discarded for shiny new toys.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 13 minutes ago
Greizmann and lukaku? The fack you need both for?

Obviously rashford and martial will both have to move to other clubs then. Sad, united used to nurture special talent like rashford and martial. Now they're discarded for shiny new toys.
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Believe it or not, Robb is not actually in charge of MUFC's transfer policy. Crazy, I know.

That was my point to robb, in his desire to believe Jose is infallible and that a galactico signing is needed all the time he is forgetting who united are as a club and that they have some extremely talented players already there.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 22 minutes ago
Greizmann and lukaku? The fack you need both for?

Obviously rashford and martial will both have to move to other clubs then. Sad, united used to nurture special talent like rashford and martial. Now they're discarded for shiny new toys.
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Martial was a shiny new toy,

Hardly some youth product.

And Rashford will be fine.

When Ibra goes (and if we hypothetically sign Lukaku and Griezmann) our list of strikers would be this..

Lukaku
Rashford
Griezmann.

Hardly overstocked

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
That was my point to robb, in his desire to believe Jose is infallible and that a galactico signing is needed all the time he is forgetting who united are as a club and that they have some extremely talented players already there.
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I love how you seem to think you can speak for me.

You do seem to want a galactico signing every window.

And you do seem to think Jose is infallible.

comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 22 minutes ago
Greizmann and lukaku? The fack you need both for?

Obviously rashford and martial will both have to move to other clubs then. Sad, united used to nurture special talent like rashford and martial. Now they're discarded for shiny new toys.
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Martial was a shiny new toy,

Hardly some youth product.

And Rashford will be fine.

When Ibra goes (and if we hypothetically sign Lukaku and Griezmann) our list of strikers would be this..

Lukaku
Rashford
Griezmann.

Hardly overstocked
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Until the next big striker comes along that you want that is.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
You do seem to want a galactico signing every window.

And you do seem to think Jose is infallible.
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The club wants one and there's nothing wrong with it as long as the player helps us achieve our aim.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Jimmy Hustle (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 22 minutes ago
Greizmann and lukaku? The fack you need both for?

Obviously rashford and martial will both have to move to other clubs then. Sad, united used to nurture special talent like rashford and martial. Now they're discarded for shiny new toys.
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Martial was a shiny new toy,

Hardly some youth product.

And Rashford will be fine.

When Ibra goes (and if we hypothetically sign Lukaku and Griezmann) our list of strikers would be this..

Lukaku
Rashford
Griezmann.

Hardly overstocked
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Until the next big striker comes along that you want that is.
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No, I'm fine with those.

Please stop wumming. I had you down as a good poster

I'm not wumming. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a wum.

If you signs both Greizmann and lukaku rashford needs to move on as he will never get game time other than a little off the bench. That's the point I'm making.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 35 seconds ago
I'm not wumming. Just because I disagree with you doesn't make me a wum.

If you signs both Greizmann and lukaku rashford needs to move on as he will never get game time other than a little off the bench. That's the point I'm making.
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We'll play 60 games a season. Sometimes with two up front, sometimes Griezmann will play as a #10

And you're wumming me by making out I'm something I'm not.

I spend half my time defending the likes of Lingard, Fellaini and Jones on here.

I know you do. I don't understand what that has to do with rashford.

The lad needs minutes to play, signing two too quality strikers to go with ibra as well means no game time for him next season.

I don't really get why anyone who's a fan of the lad would want to see his career stifled like that, he could easily be better than lukaku, who has the first touch of an elephant.

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
I know you do. I don't understand what that has to do with rashford.

The lad needs minutes to play, signing two too quality strikers to go with ibra as well means no game time for him next season.

I don't really get why anyone who's a fan of the lad would want to see his career stifled like that, he could easily be better than lukaku, who has the first touch of an elephant.
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Lukaku is one of the top young talents in the game and more than that, is ready now. His scoring record has him on target to overtake Shearer as an all time record holder if he stays in the PL.

I like Rashford but let's be honest. Just over a year ago he was barely heard of. It's far too early in his career to make him the number one choice striker for us. He's shown recently how green he is and we're in a situation where we need players to come in and hit the ground running.

I'm not saying to make him number one robb, I agree he isn't ready. It's one of the reasons I applauded the ibra signing, get a striker ready now but one who won't block rashfords opportunities. Admittedly I though rashford would play down the middle more and I think Jose has made a mistake by not giving him slightly more chances there, particularly in the cups.

By signing two top strikers, basically in their prime, it's effectively ending rashfords united career. I think that's a big mistake and one of the reasons the premier league, and English football has lagged behind France Germany and Spain. Look at the teams in their leagues and they're all ripe with homegrown talent, a large part of that is because they are affording the youngsters not just opportunities to play, but chances to fail and learn and grow.

There's too much instant success wanted from fans of the premier league at the moment.

I don't really see Griezmann as a striker who plays up there every week.

I think he'll play more of an attacking mid role.

This summer Rooney leaves and soon maybe Martial and Ibra.

That leaves just Rashford. If we add Lukaku and Griezmann that gives us 3 players in the squad who can play up top. Nowhere near too many players. Especially with 60 games a season

Jose on his visit to Croatia "I came as a person that wants to relax and enjoy the nice weather, unlike the rain in Manchester."

Weather in Manchester yesterday n today is great.

comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
Weather in Manchester yesterday n today is great.
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You tell him!