comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
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I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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Exactly. I haven't said that it wasn't handled badly. Strictly speaking the airline was within its legal right to eject the passenger, and their prerogative is to argue that point after the fact. Not the way I would handle the situation if it was my business/reputation on the line, but that's by the by.
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comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 12 minutes ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 53 seconds ago
They should have offered more money until someone finally accepted it (it would happen eventually). They furrrked up so they should be prepared to take some hit in terms of losing money.
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From what ive read apparently they should have upped the offer to around 1200 but for some reason they decided not to
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I watch Billions... ergo, I can tell you that this whole episode was manufactured specifically to affect the share price so that somebody could get rich.
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comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 53 seconds ago
They should have offered more money until someone finally accepted it (it would happen eventually). They furrrked up so they should be prepared to take some hit in terms of losing money.
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From what ive read apparently they should have upped the offer to around 1200 but for some reason they decided not to
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ironically, from what i read, the goverment not only regulates the offering of compensation (ie you must pay it) but also caps the maximum amount that you can pay (at 4 times the one-way fare)...i found tickets between those two cities for £170 = $210-220.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation/what-rights-do-passengers-on-overbooked-flights-have-not-many/430152286
i'd like to think that the airline is allowed to offer whatever it wants, but US airlines are incredibly highly regulated.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
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I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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I got bumped from a flight from Vegas once. Extra night in Vegas, hotel paid for and £300 spending money as well as being moved to business class on the flight back. The whole process only took about 2 hours off of my day so it was amazing
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comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 12 minutes ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
___________________
Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
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That's fair enough for you to hold that opinion, but at no point have I said that. I defended the right of the airline, from a legal perspective, to eject the passenger. That's all.
The morality of the action is a different issue entirely.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
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I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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I got bumped from a flight from Vegas once. Extra night in Vegas, hotel paid for and £300 spending money as well as being moved to business class on the flight back. The whole process only took about 2 hours off of my day so it was amazing
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I wish this would happen to me. Just once.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly,
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Can they?
Some people on here seem absolutely fine with it.
And anyone who has a problem with that sort of physical abuse is an idiot with "faux outrage".
BTW the word is "false" not "faux". This is England.
It honestly don't matter how much money it would have costed, you furrrked up, you take responsibility.
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
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comment by "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f*****g perch. And you can print that." #lovepalestine (U19085)
posted 1 second ago
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
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surely they've all seen Airplane?
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In reality there's two separate issues here.
1. Were UA legally allowed to remove a passenger? It seems that they were.
2. Should UA have removed the passenger the way that they did? No, absolutely not.
One thing I would say though is that if the Dr was sat next to me and he has a very important appointment the next day then, when this was escalating, I would have taken the money on offer if it wasn't that important to me to get somewhere on time. The other passengers hardly covered themselves in glory either.
That's not me excusing UA's behaviour in all this though.
The Lambeau Leap
You keep saying United were within their legal rights to do what they did, do you actually have any evidence of this?
I'm sure there were some on the plane more willing to go off for the right amount of money but they decided to pick a guy who said he was a doctor and needed to get back to Chicago to see hi s patience. I don't see how any Airline has a legal right to remove someone who is directly responsible for the wellbeing of other people.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
One thing I would say though is that if the Dr was sat next to me and he has a very important appointment the next day then, when this was escalating, I would have taken the money on offer if it wasn't that important to me to get somewhere on time. The other passengers hardly covered themselves in glory either.
That's not me excusing UA's behaviour in all this though.
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i made this point earlier but was accused of blind hypocrisy.
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I imagine that overbooked flights are common. Most of the time, it doesn't lead to any debacle because there are enough people willing to take the airlines offer and leave willingly. This was probably the only time they had to forcibly remove someone.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f*****g perch. And you can print that." #lovepalestine (U19085)
posted 29 seconds ago
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
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Three other people got off after accepting they had been drawn at random. This guy is the only one that refuses to leave.
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yup.
and apparently 40,000 passengers were bumped against their will last year, and yet, in a mobile phone/camera age, i do not myself remember seeing a story like this (i'd imagine there were a few).
Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
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That's fair enough for you to hold that opinion, but at no point have I said that. I defended the right of the airline, from a legal perspective, to eject the passenger. That's all.
The morality of the action is a different issue entirely.
__________________
No you are not being honest.
You specifically mocked peoples' "faux outrage" did you not? That indicates that you had no issue with the morality either.
"I don't think you know what right wing is."
______________
What would you call it when people are justifying violence towards an elderly man in the name of making more money for a big business? Socialism?
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comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
according to this last year 40,000 US passengers were involuntarily bumped from a flight, with a further 430,000 voluntarily agreeing to be bumped. so a total of close to half a million each year.
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/airlines-oversell-flights-end-bumping-passengers-46707350
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If Trump wants to pass some laws that will benefit Americans, then one that regulates Airlines operating in the US so that this kind of thing doesn't happen, will be a good start.
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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Exactly. I haven't said that it wasn't handled badly. Strictly speaking the airline was within its legal right to eject the passenger, and their prerogative is to argue that point after the fact. Not the way I would handle the situation if it was my business/reputation on the line, but that's by the by.
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 12 minutes ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
___________________
Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
posted on 11/4/17
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 53 seconds ago
They should have offered more money until someone finally accepted it (it would happen eventually). They furrrked up so they should be prepared to take some hit in terms of losing money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From what ive read apparently they should have upped the offer to around 1200 but for some reason they decided not to
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I watch Billions... ergo, I can tell you that this whole episode was manufactured specifically to affect the share price so that somebody could get rich.
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by Adam 'The Interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Cesc + Costa - The Spanish Duo (U21341)
posted 53 seconds ago
They should have offered more money until someone finally accepted it (it would happen eventually). They furrrked up so they should be prepared to take some hit in terms of losing money.
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From what ive read apparently they should have upped the offer to around 1200 but for some reason they decided not to
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ironically, from what i read, the goverment not only regulates the offering of compensation (ie you must pay it) but also caps the maximum amount that you can pay (at 4 times the one-way fare)...i found tickets between those two cities for £170 = $210-220.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/nation/what-rights-do-passengers-on-overbooked-flights-have-not-many/430152286
i'd like to think that the airline is allowed to offer whatever it wants, but US airlines are incredibly highly regulated.
posted on 11/4/17
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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I got bumped from a flight from Vegas once. Extra night in Vegas, hotel paid for and £300 spending money as well as being moved to business class on the flight back. The whole process only took about 2 hours off of my day so it was amazing
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 12 minutes ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
___________________
Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
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That's fair enough for you to hold that opinion, but at no point have I said that. I defended the right of the airline, from a legal perspective, to eject the passenger. That's all.
The morality of the action is a different issue entirely.
posted on 11/4/17
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 14 seconds ago
Do any of the rational posters on this site, having read my comments, feel that I have taken an ultra right wing stance, in light of the accusation levelled at me by redmisty?
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I'm pretty left myself but I agree with what you've said, which is ultimately, facts.
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I agree as well. You've presented the facts as far as I can see.
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly, and as VC says, why board more people than you were planning to fly?
To be fair I don't think that you've said anything in defence of how it was handled other than to say that in strict legal terms a ticket does not absolutely guarantee you your flight.
I'd be annoyed as well if I was bumped off a flight but if someone offered me $800 (pounds, euros etc), when I'm going to Greece this summer, to catch a flight the day after I'd bite their hands off.
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I got bumped from a flight from Vegas once. Extra night in Vegas, hotel paid for and £300 spending money as well as being moved to business class on the flight back. The whole process only took about 2 hours off of my day so it was amazing
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I wish this would happen to me. Just once.
posted on 11/4/17
Everyone can see UA handled this terribly,
________________
Can they?
Some people on here seem absolutely fine with it.
And anyone who has a problem with that sort of physical abuse is an idiot with "faux outrage".
BTW the word is "false" not "faux". This is England.
posted on 11/4/17
It honestly don't matter how much money it would have costed, you furrrked up, you take responsibility.
posted on 11/4/17
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f*****g perch. And you can print that." #lovepalestine (U19085)
posted 1 second ago
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
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surely they've all seen Airplane?
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
In reality there's two separate issues here.
1. Were UA legally allowed to remove a passenger? It seems that they were.
2. Should UA have removed the passenger the way that they did? No, absolutely not.
One thing I would say though is that if the Dr was sat next to me and he has a very important appointment the next day then, when this was escalating, I would have taken the money on offer if it wasn't that important to me to get somewhere on time. The other passengers hardly covered themselves in glory either.
That's not me excusing UA's behaviour in all this though.
posted on 11/4/17
The Lambeau Leap
You keep saying United were within their legal rights to do what they did, do you actually have any evidence of this?
I'm sure there were some on the plane more willing to go off for the right amount of money but they decided to pick a guy who said he was a doctor and needed to get back to Chicago to see hi s patience. I don't see how any Airline has a legal right to remove someone who is directly responsible for the wellbeing of other people.
posted on 11/4/17
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
One thing I would say though is that if the Dr was sat next to me and he has a very important appointment the next day then, when this was escalating, I would have taken the money on offer if it wasn't that important to me to get somewhere on time. The other passengers hardly covered themselves in glory either.
That's not me excusing UA's behaviour in all this though.
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i made this point earlier but was accused of blind hypocrisy.
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
I imagine that overbooked flights are common. Most of the time, it doesn't lead to any debacle because there are enough people willing to take the airlines offer and leave willingly. This was probably the only time they had to forcibly remove someone.
posted on 11/4/17
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by "My greatest challenge is not what's happening at the moment, my greatest challenge was knocking Liverpool right off their f*****g perch. And you can print that." #lovepalestine (U19085)
posted 29 seconds ago
from the video shown it seems like only one person was targeted couldn't see anyone else getting off. my question is from all the people to take off why would you tell a doctor to leave if something was to happen at least you have a doctor on the flight
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Three other people got off after accepting they had been drawn at random. This guy is the only one that refuses to leave.
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yup.
and apparently 40,000 passengers were bumped against their will last year, and yet, in a mobile phone/camera age, i do not myself remember seeing a story like this (i'd imagine there were a few).
posted on 11/4/17
Anyone who believes that sort of aggression is justified in the name of "making money" is taking an ultra right wing stance.
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That's fair enough for you to hold that opinion, but at no point have I said that. I defended the right of the airline, from a legal perspective, to eject the passenger. That's all.
The morality of the action is a different issue entirely.
__________________
No you are not being honest.
You specifically mocked peoples' "faux outrage" did you not? That indicates that you had no issue with the morality either.
"I don't think you know what right wing is."
______________
What would you call it when people are justifying violence towards an elderly man in the name of making more money for a big business? Socialism?
posted on 11/4/17
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posted on 11/4/17
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 4 minutes ago
according to this last year 40,000 US passengers were involuntarily bumped from a flight, with a further 430,000 voluntarily agreeing to be bumped. so a total of close to half a million each year.
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/airlines-oversell-flights-end-bumping-passengers-46707350
.......................
If Trump wants to pass some laws that will benefit Americans, then one that regulates Airlines operating in the US so that this kind of thing doesn't happen, will be a good start.
posted on 11/4/17
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