comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon. (U20121)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Maybe we can identify similarities between Janssen and Soldado more after his 2nd season with us..
1. Soldado had more seasons and starts than Janssen this was his first with us
2. Soldado missed several sitters, Janssen has missed none of significance
3. Soldado was brought as our main forward for 10 mill more
4. We are a miles better team now, than when Soldado was at the club
5. Janssen has impressed in the majority of his substitute appearances (where pretty much all of his game time has come)
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1. Agreed
2. Janssen is never near the goal to miss sitters
3. Agreed
4. All the more reason why Janssen should score more
5. Clutching at straws. Fair few of those games he chased the ball and fouled his opponent
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fair
the team being better thing was an indication that he simply has to be second/third fiddle due to the quality of our team..and if we signed someone new they'd still be 2nd choice striker at best. I am going to judge him more after his second season
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We achieved 86 pts this season
We have a settled team that carried Sisokko and Janssen for the most part. We lost Kane for 8 matches, have lost Walker, Rose, Aldi and Vertonghen at key times and Lamela has barely featured
There is no reason why we can achieve the same or more points next season which will put us right in the mix. With regards to Wembley a couple wins and it will be a fortress for us! We're too good and now mentally strong to let that become an issue.
if you have a settled team that is clearly ideal but you obviously need other players to fill the squad, it is not easy for them to come into a settled team and instantly impress.
Metro keeps running with this idea that we have been lucky with injuries with absolutely no evidence. Perhaps an excuse he's invented in his head for why he were better than Liverpool
Lamela - missed practically the whole season
Rose - missed half the season
Vertonghen - out for a couple months
Kane - out for a few months
Alderweireld - out for a couple months
Dembele - various small injuries throughout the season as usual
Lloris - missed a handful of games
Walker - missed a handful of games
Winks - missed a couple months
The only important players we've managed to keep fit all season are Dier, Dele, Eriksen and Son
We are very lucky that Eriksen is very injury free. Key player
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 hours, 31 minutes ago
You have to remember that nobody lets the truth get in the way of a good argument on here. The handful of Chelsea clowns would have you believe that we all think we will win the CL next season.
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No we expect Spurs to embarrass themselves in Europe, just as they did last season.
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
Last 16 would be good, gain confidence and play as many games as we did last season.
By the way, i am not saying that you don't already have special players, i guess i mean you need an upgrade on Lamela and maybe increased squad depth in some areas.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
By the way, i am not saying that you don't already have special players, i guess i mean you need an upgrade on Lamela and maybe increased squad depth in some areas.
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I agree and if Leicester put Mahrez up for sale, he'd be the ideal replacement for Lamela!
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
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I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
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I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
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I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
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I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
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So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
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I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
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Yes, because we are better, therefore we had advantage, don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up.
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
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I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, because we are better, therefore we had advantage, don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up.
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Oh dear, you have painted yourself in a corner here haven't you?
The is no advantage in playing less games
...it is a disadvantage for a side to play more games
...unless you have the experience to deal with it
...even though you have not done so in the last 2 years
...b-b-but we are just better.
Four legs good, two legs bad
Absolutely no logic whatsoever to his argument
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Let's spell it out to you cause you ain't that bright
Chelsea can win the league and compete in the CL because we have the squad and experience to do so.
Spurs can't because they have neither,,,they are not as good. And guess what, the stronger team has the advantage....now i know there are a lot of thick spurs fans about, but even you might be able to understand this point, if not let give me a little more detail around this point:
Chelsea:
2003/2004 PL 2nd CL SF
2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2006/2007 PL 2nd CL SF
2007/2008 PL 2nd CL Final
2008/2009 PL 3rd CL SF
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2010/2011 PL 2nd CL QF
2011/2012 PL 6th CL Winners
2012/2013 PL 3rd EL Winners
2013/2014 PL 3rd CL SF
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2015/2016 PL 10th CL lat 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football
Now clearly you must be new to football as you seem to think that teams can't win or challenge for the league and the CL at the same time.
Well from a Spur's perspective that is true, but not from Chelsea's perspective.
Now hopefully this can now sink in.
Spurs fans, have had a decent team for two seasons and think they know everything about competing in domestic and european competitions.
2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 16 minutes ago
Absolutely no logic whatsoever to his argument
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How is this for logic...
You are not good enough to challenge for the CL and the PL at the same time....
The only reason you were able to challenge a bit this season was because to were not good enough to get out of your CL group or proceed in the EL.
Logical enough for you?
One season out of five where you won the league and got past the last 16 - bare minimum for top seeds really.
Hardly pushing your case here
Sign in if you want to comment
Not optimistic we'll win the title.....
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posted on 24/5/17
comment by Ledders The King - Football Manager Icon. (U20121)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Maybe we can identify similarities between Janssen and Soldado more after his 2nd season with us..
1. Soldado had more seasons and starts than Janssen this was his first with us
2. Soldado missed several sitters, Janssen has missed none of significance
3. Soldado was brought as our main forward for 10 mill more
4. We are a miles better team now, than when Soldado was at the club
5. Janssen has impressed in the majority of his substitute appearances (where pretty much all of his game time has come)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Agreed
2. Janssen is never near the goal to miss sitters
3. Agreed
4. All the more reason why Janssen should score more
5. Clutching at straws. Fair few of those games he chased the ball and fouled his opponent
----------------------------------------------------------------------
fair
the team being better thing was an indication that he simply has to be second/third fiddle due to the quality of our team..and if we signed someone new they'd still be 2nd choice striker at best. I am going to judge him more after his second season
posted on 24/5/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 24/5/17
We achieved 86 pts this season
We have a settled team that carried Sisokko and Janssen for the most part. We lost Kane for 8 matches, have lost Walker, Rose, Aldi and Vertonghen at key times and Lamela has barely featured
There is no reason why we can achieve the same or more points next season which will put us right in the mix. With regards to Wembley a couple wins and it will be a fortress for us! We're too good and now mentally strong to let that become an issue.
posted on 24/5/17
if you have a settled team that is clearly ideal but you obviously need other players to fill the squad, it is not easy for them to come into a settled team and instantly impress.
posted on 24/5/17
Metro keeps running with this idea that we have been lucky with injuries with absolutely no evidence. Perhaps an excuse he's invented in his head for why he were better than Liverpool
Lamela - missed practically the whole season
Rose - missed half the season
Vertonghen - out for a couple months
Kane - out for a few months
Alderweireld - out for a couple months
Dembele - various small injuries throughout the season as usual
Lloris - missed a handful of games
Walker - missed a handful of games
Winks - missed a couple months
The only important players we've managed to keep fit all season are Dier, Dele, Eriksen and Son
posted on 24/5/17
We are very lucky that Eriksen is very injury free. Key player
posted on 24/5/17
Jinx
posted on 24/5/17
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 hours, 31 minutes ago
You have to remember that nobody lets the truth get in the way of a good argument on here. The handful of Chelsea clowns would have you believe that we all think we will win the CL next season.
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No we expect Spurs to embarrass themselves in Europe, just as they did last season.
posted on 24/5/17
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
posted on 24/5/17
Last 16 would be good, gain confidence and play as many games as we did last season.
posted on 24/5/17
By the way, i am not saying that you don't already have special players, i guess i mean you need an upgrade on Lamela and maybe increased squad depth in some areas.
posted on 24/5/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
By the way, i am not saying that you don't already have special players, i guess i mean you need an upgrade on Lamela and maybe increased squad depth in some areas.
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I agree and if Leicester put Mahrez up for sale, he'd be the ideal replacement for Lamela!
posted on 25/5/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
posted on 25/5/17
posted on 25/5/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
posted on 25/5/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
posted on 25/5/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, because we are better, therefore we had advantage, don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up.
posted on 25/5/17
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 12 hours, 8 minutes ago
Seriously, for Spurs to win the league they will need a couple of signings. I think you should try for Mahrez or maybe Zaha, you need a player that do something special when needed.
I also think you will need to exit the CL early again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am a bit confused.
Last week 8 games of European football was not a disadvantage.
This week it is?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just don't think your squad has the experience to cope with both for too long..............it won't be a disadvantage to us as we do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you are saying Chelsea had an advantage over Spurs last season then?
Us being able to cope better without European football and all.
Don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, because we are better, therefore we had advantage, don't reply straight away, take a bit of time to make something up.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh dear, you have painted yourself in a corner here haven't you?
The is no advantage in playing less games
...it is a disadvantage for a side to play more games
...unless you have the experience to deal with it
...even though you have not done so in the last 2 years
...b-b-but we are just better.
Four legs good, two legs bad
posted on 25/5/17
Absolutely no logic whatsoever to his argument
posted on 25/5/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 25/5/17
Let's spell it out to you cause you ain't that bright
Chelsea can win the league and compete in the CL because we have the squad and experience to do so.
Spurs can't because they have neither,,,they are not as good. And guess what, the stronger team has the advantage....now i know there are a lot of thick spurs fans about, but even you might be able to understand this point, if not let give me a little more detail around this point:
Chelsea:
2003/2004 PL 2nd CL SF
2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2006/2007 PL 2nd CL SF
2007/2008 PL 2nd CL Final
2008/2009 PL 3rd CL SF
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2010/2011 PL 2nd CL QF
2011/2012 PL 6th CL Winners
2012/2013 PL 3rd EL Winners
2013/2014 PL 3rd CL SF
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2015/2016 PL 10th CL lat 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football
Now clearly you must be new to football as you seem to think that teams can't win or challenge for the league and the CL at the same time.
Well from a Spur's perspective that is true, but not from Chelsea's perspective.
Now hopefully this can now sink in.
posted on 25/5/17
Spurs fans, have had a decent team for two seasons and think they know everything about competing in domestic and european competitions.
posted on 25/5/17
2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football
posted on 25/5/17
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 16 minutes ago
Absolutely no logic whatsoever to his argument
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How is this for logic...
You are not good enough to challenge for the CL and the PL at the same time....
The only reason you were able to challenge a bit this season was because to were not good enough to get out of your CL group or proceed in the EL.
Logical enough for you?
posted on 25/5/17
One season out of five where you won the league and got past the last 16 - bare minimum for top seeds really.
Hardly pushing your case here
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