comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The norm? You have challenged on both fronts twice this decade
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Edin our record since 2003 speaks for itself as does United's as does the other teams that have been winning the CL in recent seasons.

Chelsea reached 7 CL semi finals and won the league 5 times in the last two decades

Until you stop having a culture of looking for excuses for not winning trophies you will never become a sustainable serious threat, I guarantee you.

You can't reference historical teams with no active members in your current squad as a datum

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
Until you stop having a culture of looking for excuses for not winning trophies you will never become a sustainable serious threat, I guarantee you.
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The fans are irrelevant in this, it's the mentality of the coaching staff and players that count

comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
Until you stop having a culture of looking for excuses for not winning trophies you will never become a sustainable serious threat, I guarantee you.
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The fans are irrelevant in this, it's the mentality of the coaching staff and players that count
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the two go hand in hand............to be fair i think people like Poch have it, but it needs to permeate everywhere, winning that first trophy (with this team) will help.

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can't reference historical teams with no active members in your current squad as a datum
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Our squad has loads of CL experience Edin and so does our coaching staff. We have the culture and experience in spades of competing on two fronts.

And we will sign at least 4 players this summer and we now have good younger players like Ake and Chalobah who can step in..

We will be in very good shape unless Conte goes back to Italy.

I do not doubt that you have the experience or resource to compete in the CL. I just don't believe that this Chelsea side currently has the resources to compete on both fronts, and traditionally hasn't done so often.

Especially this season, you had a small squad, and the extra 10 or so games may have been the difference between an unfit/injured Hazard and/or Luiz.

Traditionally we have Edin, the record printed above speaks for itself.

Traditionally AC Milan always competed for the CL. The Chelsea teams that have competed on both fronts are in the past

steady on mate-season just finished and you are already writing off next season-lots to happen before then
-some may leave hdlsa-incl Costa/Keeper/hazard??
-some will leave Spurs=walker/Sissoko/Lamela?
-some will come in
-chelsea will have extra games.

lots of water to flow before one can form a view

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago

2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football


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The mug ignored the evidence that in many many season Chelsea challenged in both

Go on, post your version for Spurs, lets have a feckin good laugh..

Spurs 2016/2017 2nd failed group stage and ist attempt at the EL
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We challenged and got to the KO stages of Europe - what is your point?

You have put lots of seasons up where you also did not win the league.

The ones where you went the extra mile in the league, were largely your worst Eurooean performances

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
Traditionally AC Milan always competed for the CL. The Chelsea teams that have competed on both fronts are in the past
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Edin the top teams challenge on both fronts, nothing has changed and why should it?

Why this need to find excuses? Just get better.

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 minute ago

2004/2005 PL 1st CL SF
2005/2006 PL 1st Last 16
2009/2010 PL 1st CL Last 16
2014/2015 PL 1st CL 16
2016/2017 PL 1st no european football


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The mug ignored the evidence that in many many season Chelsea challenged in both

Go on, post your version for Spurs, lets have a feckin good laugh..

Spurs 2016/2017 2nd failed group stage and ist attempt at the EL
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We challenged and got to the KO stages of Europe - what is your point?

You have put lots of seasons up where you also did not win the league.

The ones where you went the extra mile in the league, were largely your worst Eurooean performances

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There are so many times when we were 2nd or 3rd and in the semi of finals of the CL...ignore it if you wish, it doesn't bother me, if you think Spurs don't need to get to a level where they can challenge on both stages then good luck with that....

2003/04 CL Semi final, finished 2nd in the league
2004/05 CL Semi final, won the league
2005/06 CL Round 16, won the league
2006/07 CL Semi final, finished 2nd in the league
2007/08 CL final, finished 2nd in the league only 2 points behind the leaders.
2008/09 CL Semi final, finished 3rd in the league
2009/10 CL Round 16, won the league
2010/11 CL Q/F, finished 2nd in the league
2011/11 Won the CL, finished 6th in the league
2012/13 Won the Europa League, finished 3rd in the league.
2013/14 CL semi final, finished 3rd in the league
2014/15 CL Round 16, won the league
2015/16 CL Round 16, finished 10th in the league
2016/17 No CL, won the league

Don't forget Chelsea won 4 FA cups and 3 league cups during this period.

Clearly the above stats contradicts your view HRH Lesley. Chelsea have traditionally have been competing on all fronts for the last 14 years.

comment by Conte'nt (U20893)
posted 37 seconds ago
2003/04 CL Semi final, finished 2nd in the league
2004/05 CL Semi final, won the league
2005/06 CL Round 16, won the league
2006/07 CL Semi final, finished 2nd in the league
2007/08 CL final, finished 2nd in the league only 2 points behind the leaders.
2008/09 CL Semi final, finished 3rd in the league
2009/10 CL Round 16, won the league
2010/11 CL Q/F, finished 2nd in the league
2011/11 Won the CL, finished 6th in the league
2012/13 Won the Europa League, finished 3rd in the league.
2013/14 CL semi final, finished 3rd in the league
2014/15 CL Round 16, won the league
2015/16 CL Round 16, finished 10th in the league
2016/17 No CL, won the league

Don't forget Chelsea won 4 FA cups and 3 league cups during this period.

Clearly the above stats contradicts your view HRH Lesley. Chelsea have traditionally have been competing on all fronts for the last 14 years.


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He just wants his excuse for not winning a trophy, not interested in the facts.

Long may that continue

I have no excuse, Chelsea were the better team in the league.

It is the flippy flapping that has done me .

You have given me evidence, but what that shows is this...

1. When Chelsea have won the league, 4 of the 5 times they have not been past the first KO round of the CL. One of those times not in it at all.

2. When Chelsea have got to the 1/4s or further in Europe their record reads.....
2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 3rd.
One league win out of the 10 times



I am no statistician, but it looks to me that empirically Chelsea's title chances are vastly improved by less European games.

Some would say it gives them an advantage

Chelsea have been winning the league and maintained top 4 regularly, whilst winning 2 European competition , reaching the finals on three occasions and reaching semi finals on five occasions 5 in the European competition and winning five PL leagues, four FA cups and three league cups. All of thus writhin the 14 years period.

Now please tell me how is this not an evidence that Chelsea have traditionally been competing on all fronts all these years.

These are no flip flapping these are facts Ledley.

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 20 minutes ago
I have no excuse, Chelsea were the better team in the league.

It is the flippy flapping that has done me.

You have given me evidence, but what that shows is this...

1. When Chelsea have won the league, 4 of the 5 times they have not been past the first KO round of the CL. One of those times not in it at all.

2. When Chelsea have got to the 1/4s or further in Europe their record reads.....
2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 3rd.
One league win out of the 10 times



I am no statistician, but it looks to me that empirically Chelsea's title chances are vastly improved by less European games.

Some would say it gives them an advantage
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I have not flipped flapped on anything.

I made a post saying that if Spurs make a couple of good signings and exit the CL early like last season they may have a chance of the title next season.

Then desperate mugs suddenly change the thread onto some totally irrelevant point that I never even made.

And as usual showed yourselves up to be desperate for vindication .............even though ironically I had already given it with my original post.

Is it any wonder i think so many Spurs fans are such a total load of t ssers?

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 20 minutes ago
I have no excuse, Chelsea were the better team in the league.

It is the flippy flapping that has done me.

You have given me evidence, but what that shows is this...

1. When Chelsea have won the league, 4 of the 5 times they have not been past the first KO round of the CL. One of those times not in it at all.

2. When Chelsea have got to the 1/4s or further in Europe their record reads.....
2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 6th, 3rd, 3rd.
One league win out of the 10 times



I am no statistician, but it looks to me that empirically Chelsea's title chances are vastly improved by less European games.

Some would say it gives them an advantage
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Most would say there is overwhelming evidence that proves that the top teams can challenge for both trophies in the same season.

Not just in the PL, where Man Utd have proven on many occasions by winning the league and the CL. Other teams in Europe are doing it too.

Chelsea got very close to doing the double CL and the league on two occasions in 2004/05 and 2008/09.

Spurs hasn't got near winning a Europe competition or indeed the league for decades, never mind doing the double.

Flip flap flip flap



2 + 3 DOESN'T equal 5

3 + 2 DOES equal 5

If you subtract 2 from 5 it DOES make 3

If you subtract 3 from 5 it DOESN'T make 2

Won the league but so wound up.

Enjoy it, stop being so needy

comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 4 minutes ago
Flip flap flip flap



2 + 3 DOESN'T equal 5

3 + 2 DOES equal 5

If you subtract 2 from 5 it DOES make 3

If you subtract 3 from 5 it DOESN'T make 2


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What are you on about now ?

Tbf, reading back one of my posts now, just spotted a few typos, but still not that hard to understand

Wound up? Where did you get this idea from ? Thought I was chatting to a grown up person here.

100 comments, mostly of bolux spouted by thick spurs fans