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Man Utd in talks for Ivan Perisic

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posted on 28/5/17

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 57 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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I don't know about 'preferable' but i have raved about BVB's Dembele for a while now. Boy is going to be a star; i actually prefer him to Mbappe. He will leave for a 'bigger' club in the future if he continues current trajectory.

posted on 28/5/17

Proper standard? Jesus Christ, we're not talking about Eric Djemba-Djemba here! We're talking about one of the players of Euro 2016, a tournament that featured Ronaldo, Bale, Griezmann etc. You really are a miserable sod.
Just because you don't know anything about him, it doesn't mean he's no good. I'd love to go back and see your comments when we signed Bailly. Or Evra/Vidic/Stam back in the day.
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No way was Stretty around when we bought Stam

posted on 28/5/17

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 13 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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Now you're just plucking names out of thin air. Dembele plays in a position we don't need to fill, for a start. Pulisic even less so

Might as well have suggested Courtois.
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Demebele plays LWF and Pulisic plays right. Please check your facts before coming at me again chief.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 57 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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I don't know about 'preferable' but i have raved about BVB's Dembele for a while now. Boy is going to be a star; i actually prefer him to Mbappe. He will leave for a 'bigger' club in the future if he continues current trajectory.
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And we may still go for him one day whether we get Perisic.

The question posed to Stretty was what left winger who sticks to the touch line and gives us the width the side very much needs is out there and cheaper?

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 7 seconds ago
Proper standard? Jesus Christ, we're not talking about Eric Djemba-Djemba here! We're talking about one of the players of Euro 2016, a tournament that featured Ronaldo, Bale, Griezmann etc. You really are a miserable sod.
Just because you don't know anything about him, it doesn't mean he's no good. I'd love to go back and see your comments when we signed Bailly. Or Evra/Vidic/Stam back in the day.
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No way was Stretty around when we bought Stam
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Yes I was. And there was a reason stam was the most expensive defender in the PL at the time of his purchase.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 44 seconds ago
Proper standard? Jesus Christ, we're not talking about Eric Djemba-Djemba here! We're talking about one of the players of Euro 2016, a tournament that featured Ronaldo, Bale, Griezmann etc. You really are a miserable sod.
Just because you don't know anything about him, it doesn't mean he's no good. I'd love to go back and see your comments when we signed Bailly. Or Evra/Vidic/Stam back in the day.
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Would you like a list of players that have looked top class at int tournaments but wernt acrually?

I can provide if you like.
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I would say 12 goals and 8 assists this season is enough to back up his performances at Euro 2016.
Look, Mourinho knows much better than you and I what players he needs for the system he wants to play. This isn't FIFA 17, where you can buy who you like and play them anywhere.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Robb : JeSuisManchester (U21234)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 57 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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I don't know about 'preferable' but i have raved about BVB's Dembele for a while now. Boy is going to be a star; i actually prefer him to Mbappe. He will leave for a 'bigger' club in the future if he continues current trajectory.
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And we may still go for him one day whether we get Perisic.

The question posed to Stretty was what left winger who sticks to the touch line and gives us the width the side very much needs is out there and cheaper?
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It's not about being "cheaper"

It's about being a worthwhile investment when all things are considered.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb : JeSuisManchester (U21234)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 57 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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I don't know about 'preferable' but i have raved about BVB's Dembele for a while now. Boy is going to be a star; i actually prefer him to Mbappe. He will leave for a 'bigger' club in the future if he continues current trajectory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And we may still go for him one day whether we get Perisic.

The question posed to Stretty was what left winger who sticks to the touch line and gives us the width the side very much needs is out there and cheaper?
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It's not about being "cheaper"

It's about being a worthwhile investment when all things are considered.
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£36 million to a guy who has just turned 28 and is exactly what we need is a worthwhile investment.

posted on 28/5/17

Would give my left arm for United to sign Dembele, he is amazing.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Melbourne Red (U5417)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 59 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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Pulisic? He's what, 17? Ok you've just lost all credibility.
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He's 18, and has world class potential.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Robb : JeSuisManchester (U21234)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Robb : JeSuisManchester (U21234)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 57 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know about 'preferable' but i have raved about BVB's Dembele for a while now. Boy is going to be a star; i actually prefer him to Mbappe. He will leave for a 'bigger' club in the future if he continues current trajectory.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And we may still go for him one day whether we get Perisic.

The question posed to Stretty was what left winger who sticks to the touch line and gives us the width the side very much needs is out there and cheaper?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not about being "cheaper"

It's about being a worthwhile investment when all things are considered.
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£36 million to a guy who has just turned 28 and is exactly what we need is a worthwhile investment.
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We'll agree to disagree on that.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 13 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
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Now you're just plucking names out of thin air. Dembele plays in a position we don't need to fill, for a start. Pulisic even less so

Might as well have suggested Courtois.
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Demebele plays LWF and Pulisic plays right. Please check your facts before coming at me again chief.
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And those aren't their natural positions, so you want us to continue with our tried and failed lack of width approach. Fantastic.

You can't just keep buying youth from poxy leagues and expect it to rejuvenate a top PL side.

Martial has as much potential as Dembele in the wide left/inside left position.

Pulisic is a talent, but that's all he is. Right now Perisic is better.

posted on 28/5/17

Never really watched him to be honest, but looks like he might be one of the best ever to me IMO

posted on 28/5/17

Stretty, plenty of 17 year olds had world class potential.

You understand what "potential" means, right?

posted on 28/5/17

Me

posted on 28/5/17

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 13 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Now you're just plucking names out of thin air. Dembele plays in a position we don't need to fill, for a start. Pulisic even less so

Might as well have suggested Courtois.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Demebele plays LWF and Pulisic plays right. Please check your facts before coming at me again chief.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And those aren't their natural positions, so you want us to continue with our tried and failed lack of width approach. Fantastic.

You can't just keep buying youth from poxy leagues and expect it to rejuvenate a top PL side.

Martial has as much potential as Dembele in the wide left/inside left position.

Pulisic is a talent, but that's all he is. Right now Perisic is better.
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But perisic is the type of player that will rejuivante a PL side? I don't buy that tbh.

We'll see. It looks like it's happening.

But if this is the standard Jose is looking at very dissapointing.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 13 seconds ago
Demebele and pulisic from Dortmund would also be preferable, also young and would justify a high fee.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Now you're just plucking names out of thin air. Dembele plays in a position we don't need to fill, for a start. Pulisic even less so

Might as well have suggested Courtois.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Demebele plays LWF and Pulisic plays right. Please check your facts before coming at me again chief.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

And those aren't their natural positions, so you want us to continue with our tried and failed lack of width approach. Fantastic.

You can't just keep buying youth from poxy leagues and expect it to rejuvenate a top PL side.

Martial has as much potential as Dembele in the wide left/inside left position.

Pulisic is a talent, but that's all he is. Right now Perisic is better.
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This.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
Stretty, plenty of 17 year olds had world class potential.

You understand what "potential" means, right?
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Yes, and he's just had a rather good season for Dortmund.

Not suggesting we buy him anyway, but would definatley be preferable to perisic.

posted on 28/5/17

But perisic is the type of player that will rejuivante a PL side? I don't buy that tbh.

We'll see. It looks like it's happening.

But if this is the standard Jose is looking at very dissapointing.
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Jesus Christ this season hasn't even finished yet. The summer spending has hardly begun. To me from the little I have seen he looks like a solid player who can add width and attacking flair to our team. We need a balance, not just buy the very top players in each position. At 28 he is going to be at his peak, a player Jose more often than not likes. How about we see how the summer spending pans out before criticising

posted on 28/5/17

Yes, and he's just had a rather good season for Dortmund.
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Wouldn't 12 goals and 8 assists add up to a rather good season for Perisic too? With far less risk.

Why not just admit, like I did, that you don't know enough about him to form an opinion?

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes, and he's just had a rather good season for Dortmund.
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Wouldn't 12 goals and 8 assists add up to a rather good season for Perisic too? With far less risk.

Why not just admit, like I did, that you don't know enough about him to form an opinion?
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He didn't score 12 goals.

Yes of course there's less risk signing perisic, doesn't mean I have to be for the signing.

Also the last time we over paid for someone from Serie A, he also went on the have a largely underwhlemisnf season (being generous)

posted on 28/5/17

But can you admit that you don't know enough about the player to form an honest opinion other than what is akin to "he's not world class, so i am underwhelmed"?

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes, and he's just had a rather good season for Dortmund.
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Wouldn't 12 goals and 8 assists add up to a rather good season for Perisic too? With far less risk.

Why not just admit, like I did, that you don't know enough about him to form an opinion?
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He didn't score 12 goals.

Yes of course there's less risk signing perisic, doesn't mean I have to be for the signing.

Also the last time we over paid for someone from Serie A, he also went on the have a largely underwhlemisnf season (being generous)
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You can't judge we've overpaid for someone before they have had a chance to have a career at our club

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
But can you admit that you don't know enough about the player to form an honest opinion other than what is akin to "he's not world class, so i am underwhelmed"?
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I have seen enough to form an opinion that I don't think he's worth the fee we are paying. Unlike you I don't need 400 hours to form opinion on players.

Let's be honest, its underwhelming.

posted on 28/5/17

comment by Robb : JeSuisManchester (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretty - mr mourinho (U3123)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes, and he's just had a rather good season for Dortmund.
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Wouldn't 12 goals and 8 assists add up to a rather good season for Perisic too? With far less risk.

Why not just admit, like I did, that you don't know enough about him to form an opinion?
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He didn't score 12 goals.

Yes of course there's less risk signing perisic, doesn't mean I have to be for the signing.

Also the last time we over paid for someone from Serie A, he also went on the have a largely underwhlemisnf season (being generous)
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You can't judge we've overpaid for someone before they have had a chance to have a career at our club
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You can fully say we over paid for Pogba, I don't need to see his whole career to know that.

There is no way he will ever justify that fee.

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