Do you really think he will walk away? Like any businessman, he's here to make money. He will sell the club when it suits him.
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 15 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork-White (U6379)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I think we need some good signings to gloss this over. Just to get some fans onside
I'm unsure what to expect.
He has a 59% win ratio in Cyprus. With an unfancied team and the Cypriot behemoth that is apoel
He seems to be getting kudos for doing a PowerPoint presentation . I have blagged many a job with this technique.
From one blagger to the next. Good luck
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I know what you mean, we're used to football managers who can't string a sentence together so the idea of a researched presentation for a job paying a few hundred grand a year seems otherworldly... as opposed to the bare minimum required in normal walks of life!
That's not to knock TC, far from it, it's great he did it.
What will be greater is if the club seek to fill the gaps in quality he's identified. Does his analysis of the playing staff and style of play dovetail with orta's who will be bringing in any players?
The next month 6 or 7 weeks will be telling in terms of backing. Whether they're TC's or orta's men? We'll probably only find out when the bitching starts when one of them gets sacked!
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Anyone see Harry Redknapp do a Powerpoint presentation before? Or big Sam? They do their powerpoints on the pitch.
We could have got Pearson, Poyet, Heckinbottom, men who know this league. Instead, we got someone who knows Powerpoint. Since when did that become a qualification to manage LUFC?
Apparently big Sam did try to use a powerpoint presentaton to geth the England job on the first occasion:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sam-allardyce-lack-of-powerpoint-facilities-cost-me-the-england-job-a6692191.html
Thanks for the correction, Abu, a good powerpoint presentation may help the aspiring manager to land the England job.
comment by Good Evans (U19827)
posted 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 15 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork-White (U6379)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I think we need some good signings to gloss this over. Just to get some fans onside
I'm unsure what to expect.
He has a 59% win ratio in Cyprus. With an unfancied team and the Cypriot behemoth that is apoel
He seems to be getting kudos for doing a PowerPoint presentation . I have blagged many a job with this technique.
From one blagger to the next. Good luck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know what you mean, we're used to football managers who can't string a sentence together so the idea of a researched presentation for a job paying a few hundred grand a year seems otherworldly... as opposed to the bare minimum required in normal walks of life!
That's not to knock TC, far from it, it's great he did it.
What will be greater is if the club seek to fill the gaps in quality he's identified. Does his analysis of the playing staff and style of play dovetail with orta's who will be bringing in any players?
The next month 6 or 7 weeks will be telling in terms of backing. Whether they're TC's or orta's men? We'll probably only find out when the bitching starts when one of them gets sacked!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyone see Harry Redknapp do a Powerpoint presentation before? Or big Sam? They do their powerpoints on the pitch.
We could have got Pearson, Poyet, Heckinbottom, men who know this league. Instead, we got someone who knows Powerpoint. Since when did that become a qualification to manage LUFC?
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2017
Being good at FIFA is also a pre-requisite
If like has been suggested his interview process involved him identifying where and how he would improve the team then surely the board now know what he wants and how much they will need to spend.
Therefore the club don't have any excuse in sitting around and not getting players in sooner rather than later
"Therefore the club don't have any excuse in sitting around and not getting players in sooner rather than later"
Unless his presentation included how he could manage with what they already have.
good point jonny -
AR "Can your training and tactics make the current squad better"
TC "absolutely"
AR "fantastic last year we were 7th, better must mean at least 6th and the play-offs - you've got the job Tommy, now don't come begging for players"
If his presentation involved him saying he can manage without a leftback, only two centrebacks and the midfield options we have have and they believed him when he said it was fine.
Then both are idiots.
I doubt it very much though and he will. Have identified targets, he must have.
Club needs to now deliver and should know what he wants and thus get it done quick
Great points Matty.
If AR was sold in TC's analysis, then one could reasonably expect the analysis to be acted upon and the new manager supported.
I wonder if we'll ever hear what the analysis was.
You would imagine that monk and pep either independently or as a team would have identified areas they needed strengthening in. You would expect that orta has been watching a back catalogue talked to the coaching staff and have his own ideas.
You would equally expect TC to have done the same... from that Phil hay article it's clear that he did.
You would imagine rad would hope to see some consensus in their assessments ( a mix of those who have seen only the games and those who see them in training and know the backstory).
If i was rad, whatever new ideas the new manager has, I'd be hoping for some consensus on the areas that need strengthening, though clearly this depends to a degree on team setup and playing style.
You would hope that orta and TC in particular were identifying similar needs as those two really need to be on the same hymn sheet.
In an ideal world TC would have chance to see the whole squad in training before identifying targets but that leaves little time to get the targets in. Players are back in around a week, so hopefully they're working on targets now and can add/amend as he gets to know the players.
It's all we ever have jonty!
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posted on 16/6/17
Do you really think he will walk away? Like any businessman, he's here to make money. He will sell the club when it suits him.
posted on 16/6/17
Exactly Jack.
posted on 17/6/17
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 15 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork-White (U6379)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I think we need some good signings to gloss this over. Just to get some fans onside
I'm unsure what to expect.
He has a 59% win ratio in Cyprus. With an unfancied team and the Cypriot behemoth that is apoel
He seems to be getting kudos for doing a PowerPoint presentation . I have blagged many a job with this technique.
From one blagger to the next. Good luck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know what you mean, we're used to football managers who can't string a sentence together so the idea of a researched presentation for a job paying a few hundred grand a year seems otherworldly... as opposed to the bare minimum required in normal walks of life!
That's not to knock TC, far from it, it's great he did it.
What will be greater is if the club seek to fill the gaps in quality he's identified. Does his analysis of the playing staff and style of play dovetail with orta's who will be bringing in any players?
The next month 6 or 7 weeks will be telling in terms of backing. Whether they're TC's or orta's men? We'll probably only find out when the bitching starts when one of them gets sacked!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyone see Harry Redknapp do a Powerpoint presentation before? Or big Sam? They do their powerpoints on the pitch.
We could have got Pearson, Poyet, Heckinbottom, men who know this league. Instead, we got someone who knows Powerpoint. Since when did that become a qualification to manage LUFC?
posted on 17/6/17
Apparently big Sam did try to use a powerpoint presentaton to geth the England job on the first occasion:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sam-allardyce-lack-of-powerpoint-facilities-cost-me-the-england-job-a6692191.html
posted on 17/6/17
Thanks for the correction, Abu, a good powerpoint presentation may help the aspiring manager to land the England job.
posted on 17/6/17
comment by Good Evans (U19827)
posted 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 15 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork-White (U6379)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I think we need some good signings to gloss this over. Just to get some fans onside
I'm unsure what to expect.
He has a 59% win ratio in Cyprus. With an unfancied team and the Cypriot behemoth that is apoel
He seems to be getting kudos for doing a PowerPoint presentation . I have blagged many a job with this technique.
From one blagger to the next. Good luck
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I know what you mean, we're used to football managers who can't string a sentence together so the idea of a researched presentation for a job paying a few hundred grand a year seems otherworldly... as opposed to the bare minimum required in normal walks of life!
That's not to knock TC, far from it, it's great he did it.
What will be greater is if the club seek to fill the gaps in quality he's identified. Does his analysis of the playing staff and style of play dovetail with orta's who will be bringing in any players?
The next month 6 or 7 weeks will be telling in terms of backing. Whether they're TC's or orta's men? We'll probably only find out when the bitching starts when one of them gets sacked!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anyone see Harry Redknapp do a Powerpoint presentation before? Or big Sam? They do their powerpoints on the pitch.
We could have got Pearson, Poyet, Heckinbottom, men who know this league. Instead, we got someone who knows Powerpoint. Since when did that become a qualification to manage LUFC?
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2017
posted on 17/6/17
Being good at FIFA is also a pre-requisite
posted on 17/6/17
If like has been suggested his interview process involved him identifying where and how he would improve the team then surely the board now know what he wants and how much they will need to spend.
Therefore the club don't have any excuse in sitting around and not getting players in sooner rather than later
posted on 17/6/17
"Therefore the club don't have any excuse in sitting around and not getting players in sooner rather than later"
Unless his presentation included how he could manage with what they already have.
posted on 17/6/17
good point jonny -
AR "Can your training and tactics make the current squad better"
TC "absolutely"
AR "fantastic last year we were 7th, better must mean at least 6th and the play-offs - you've got the job Tommy, now don't come begging for players"
posted on 18/6/17
If his presentation involved him saying he can manage without a leftback, only two centrebacks and the midfield options we have have and they believed him when he said it was fine.
Then both are idiots.
I doubt it very much though and he will. Have identified targets, he must have.
Club needs to now deliver and should know what he wants and thus get it done quick
posted on 18/6/17
Great points Matty.
If AR was sold in TC's analysis, then one could reasonably expect the analysis to be acted upon and the new manager supported.
I wonder if we'll ever hear what the analysis was.
posted on 18/6/17
You would imagine that monk and pep either independently or as a team would have identified areas they needed strengthening in. You would expect that orta has been watching a back catalogue talked to the coaching staff and have his own ideas.
You would equally expect TC to have done the same... from that Phil hay article it's clear that he did.
You would imagine rad would hope to see some consensus in their assessments ( a mix of those who have seen only the games and those who see them in training and know the backstory).
If i was rad, whatever new ideas the new manager has, I'd be hoping for some consensus on the areas that need strengthening, though clearly this depends to a degree on team setup and playing style.
You would hope that orta and TC in particular were identifying similar needs as those two really need to be on the same hymn sheet.
In an ideal world TC would have chance to see the whole squad in training before identifying targets but that leaves little time to get the targets in. Players are back in around a week, so hopefully they're working on targets now and can add/amend as he gets to know the players.
posted on 18/6/17
Hope, hope, hope.
posted on 18/6/17
It's all we ever have jonty!
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