Studs go into people's shins everyday of the week, doesn't mean to say everybody gets a red card.
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If it's at full speed and completely wipes out the other player, and the ref spots it, then they usually do.
Well in that case we should be seeing red cards every week in every game then. There are tackles in every game across the country that have tackles than can endanger the opposition, guess they must all be reds.
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posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Chandler Von Matterhorn (U15746)
posted 5 minutes ago
Glad we could make your weekend UTD fans. Stay classy.
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Classy from klopp also
Player unconscious and he's abusing the fourth official
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No it's up to the ref's discretion, but running at full speed with your boot raised to head height and your studs showing isn't exactly a common occurrence, and is severe enough to warrant a red.
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
The rules are vague though. All depends on the scenario nowadays. The rules say that a tackle that endangers an opponent should result in a red card, doesn't every tackle endanger an opponent?
May as well make it a non-contact sport.
Every High foot endangers the opponent. They're always punished with a yellow card.
How many tackles are flying studs up to a keepers head?
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
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Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 4 minutes ago
No it's up to the ref's discretion, but running at full speed with your boot raised to head height and your studs showing isn't exactly a common occurrence, and is severe enough to warrant a red.
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You missed out that he also had both feet in the air so was totally out of control
Ref got it wrong. Irrelevant.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
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Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
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Inconsistent - yes. Should have been red like in this case.
No, not irrelevant. You've used the wrong word, inconsistent. Forgot about a raised elbow as well, clearly visible to everyone. $hithouse Zlatan saying Mins "jumped into his elbow", give it a rest.
Yeah the rules are a bit vague, but that's because they're designed that way to allow refs a certain bit of leeway to make their own judgement case-by-case. But generally we look to see what precedents refs have set in the past. If there's evidence that players who committed similar fouls to Mane got off with less than a red, then maybe you'd have grounds to question it.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 seconds ago
No, not irrelevant. You've used the wrong word, inconsistent. Forgot about a raised elbow as well, clearly visible to everyone. $hithouse Zlatan saying Mins "jumped into his elbow", give it a rest.
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So now you are saying that the Mane red was right?
Or are you saying Ibra shouldn't have been sent off for those incidents?
Not really following your argument.
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
Of course it's irrelevant. A wrong decision in another match with different officials has no bearing on the rules being applied correctly to Mane's challenge today.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
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Didn't Mings stamp on Zlatan head last season. Zlatan reacted with the elbow.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
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Does the player with the high boot go studs first into the opponents face after the ball has been played?
Well it's one or the other isn't it. If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. They both still followed the rules. That's the inconsistency. The rule is that vague.
Opinions differ though. If the rules are clear and concise, then there would be much less of an opinionated referee, thus giving them less leeway to potentially give a correct decision.
Mane red card was the correct decision, not sure why folks are arguing..
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 33 seconds ago
Well it's one or the other isn't it. If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. They both still followed the rules. That's the inconsistency. The rule is that vague.
Opinions differ though. If the rules are clear and concise, then there would be much less of an opinionated referee, thus giving them less leeway to potentially give a correct decision.
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But you are being inconsistent, because you are saying Ibra should have been sent off and Mane shouldn't.
Both should have been sent off, none of this " If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. "
There should be no matter of opinion in it. It was a challenge where the player knew there was the potential to cause serious injury (and may well have done). That is one of the very definitions of serious foul play.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
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Mane had both feet off the ground and wasn't in control when his foot smashed into the keeper at head height.
OUT OF CONTROL=dangerous play=sending off
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
The rules are vague though. All depends on the scenario nowadays. The rules say that a tackle that endangers an opponent should result in a red card, doesn't every tackle endanger an opponent?
May as well make it a non-contact sport.
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posted on 9/9/17
Studs go into people's shins everyday of the week, doesn't mean to say everybody gets a red card.
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If it's at full speed and completely wipes out the other player, and the ref spots it, then they usually do.
posted on 9/9/17
Well in that case we should be seeing red cards every week in every game then. There are tackles in every game across the country that have tackles than can endanger the opposition, guess they must all be reds.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Chandler Von Matterhorn (U15746)
posted 5 minutes ago
Glad we could make your weekend UTD fans. Stay classy.
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Classy from klopp also
Player unconscious and he's abusing the fourth official
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posted on 9/9/17
No it's up to the ref's discretion, but running at full speed with your boot raised to head height and your studs showing isn't exactly a common occurrence, and is severe enough to warrant a red.
posted on 9/9/17
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
posted on 9/9/17
The rules are vague though. All depends on the scenario nowadays. The rules say that a tackle that endangers an opponent should result in a red card, doesn't every tackle endanger an opponent?
May as well make it a non-contact sport.
posted on 9/9/17
Every High foot endangers the opponent. They're always punished with a yellow card.
posted on 9/9/17
How many tackles are flying studs up to a keepers head?
posted on 9/9/17
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
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Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 4 minutes ago
No it's up to the ref's discretion, but running at full speed with your boot raised to head height and your studs showing isn't exactly a common occurrence, and is severe enough to warrant a red.
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You missed out that he also had both feet in the air so was totally out of control
posted on 9/9/17
Ref got it wrong. Irrelevant.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 13 seconds ago
It's like these people defending it don't know the rules or something.
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Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
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Inconsistent - yes. Should have been red like in this case.
posted on 9/9/17
No, not irrelevant. You've used the wrong word, inconsistent. Forgot about a raised elbow as well, clearly visible to everyone. $hithouse Zlatan saying Mins "jumped into his elbow", give it a rest.
posted on 9/9/17
Yeah the rules are a bit vague, but that's because they're designed that way to allow refs a certain bit of leeway to make their own judgement case-by-case. But generally we look to see what precedents refs have set in the past. If there's evidence that players who committed similar fouls to Mane got off with less than a red, then maybe you'd have grounds to question it.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 seconds ago
No, not irrelevant. You've used the wrong word, inconsistent. Forgot about a raised elbow as well, clearly visible to everyone. $hithouse Zlatan saying Mins "jumped into his elbow", give it a rest.
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So now you are saying that the Mane red was right?
Or are you saying Ibra shouldn't have been sent off for those incidents?
Not really following your argument.
posted on 9/9/17
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
posted on 9/9/17
Of course it's irrelevant. A wrong decision in another match with different officials has no bearing on the rules being applied correctly to Mane's challenge today.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
Did you know the rules when Zlatan stood on Tyrone Mings' head last season at Old Trafford? May have been unintentional, still reckless. No red card. Linesman spotted it as well. Inconsistent.
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Didn't Mings stamp on Zlatan head last season. Zlatan reacted with the elbow.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
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Does the player with the high boot go studs first into the opponents face after the ball has been played?
posted on 9/9/17
Well it's one or the other isn't it. If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. They both still followed the rules. That's the inconsistency. The rule is that vague.
Opinions differ though. If the rules are clear and concise, then there would be much less of an opinionated referee, thus giving them less leeway to potentially give a correct decision.
posted on 9/9/17
Mane red card was the correct decision, not sure why folks are arguing..
posted on 9/9/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 33 seconds ago
Well it's one or the other isn't it. If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. They both still followed the rules. That's the inconsistency. The rule is that vague.
Opinions differ though. If the rules are clear and concise, then there would be much less of an opinionated referee, thus giving them less leeway to potentially give a correct decision.
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But you are being inconsistent, because you are saying Ibra should have been sent off and Mane shouldn't.
Both should have been sent off, none of this " If Mané gets sent off, so should Zlatan. If Zlatan doesn't get sent off, neither should Mané. "
posted on 9/9/17
There should be no matter of opinion in it. It was a challenge where the player knew there was the potential to cause serious injury (and may well have done). That is one of the very definitions of serious foul play.
posted on 9/9/17
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Just because the keeper came away with a nasty injury, doesn't make it a red.
Like I said, high foots happen every week in the premier league and refs blow the whistle precisely because it endangers the opponent. Same with a bicycle kick near an opponent.
The issue is that they're never given a red.
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Mane had both feet off the ground and wasn't in control when his foot smashed into the keeper at head height.
OUT OF CONTROL=dangerous play=sending off
posted on 9/9/17
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 9 minutes ago
The rules are vague though. All depends on the scenario nowadays. The rules say that a tackle that endangers an opponent should result in a red card, doesn't every tackle endanger an opponent?
May as well make it a non-contact sport.
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