comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Biglaa (U5954)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by RJCanty (U17308)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Portugal are ridiculously average and shouldn't have been anywhere near the final of Euro 2016. Never has a team less deserving won a tournament. Dreadful.
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Ahem. Greece?Possibly Denmark as well?
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You can't lump Greece in with Portugal. Greece finished second in their group, drew with Spain and beat hosts Portugal and France on way to the semis, and then beat Portugal again in the final.
Portugal by comparison finished third in their group, didn't win a game in 90 mins until the semis, and only played 1 traditional big team in the final. Portugal are the worst winners in a pisss poor international tournament ever!
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Greece although unfashionable executed an effective gameplan and had good results against the better sides. Denmark is more of a fairytale bit again were effective and ultimately deserving of their triumph albeit a massive upset.
Portugal are a trash outfit and a one man team. Take Ronaldo (who is incredible) out of their team and they are ordinary at best. The last Euro's did nothing but make a farce of the competition.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 21 hours, 32 minutes ago
Germans. Always the Germans.
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Be sure.....we will be up for it. Brazil surely another favourite to win this.
France have a very good talented young squad but they dont work as a team. Too many egos and that is their main hindrance.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
France have a very good talented young squad but they dont work as a team. Too many egos and that is their main hindrance.
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As a nation, not just a football team.
Are you a bit French, GT?
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 second ago
Are you a bit French, GT?
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No, why do you ask? Through and through German.
Hence the humour issue. :-p
GT, 'cos you didn't seem happy with the suggestion the French have a big ego as a nation.
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, 'cos you didn't seem happy with the suggestion the French have a big ego as a nation.
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From a German view I think all nations including the british have their big egos.
comment by Biglaa (U5954)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hence the humour issue. :-p
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Another myth mate.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 16 minutes ago
From a German view I think all nations including the british have their big egos.
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I suppose that's just a part of what nationalism generallly involves.
That said though, not all people are equally arrogant, and I suppose that there may be varying levels of 'national arrogance' too.
I prefer the words arrogance, which is different to ego, but I think they're similar concepts in this case.
Germany, Spain, Brazil and more hopeful than actual reality, Argentina can challenge them.
comment by Taxi for Walcott & Giroud... (U10012)
posted 23 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by DubbedTheNewWenger90 (U19529)
posted 18 minutes ago
I agree. France are being overrated. They have a lot of promising young players. But the the thing is they are all similar players when you look at it.
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Overrated?!
--------------------------Lloris-----------------
Sidibe---------Varane------Kos-----------Mendy
-------------------Pogba-------Kante----------------------
Dembele----------Griezman----Mbappe--------Lemar
with a bench which would include the like of Rabbiot, Lacazette, Fekir, Tolisso, Umiti, etc..
Don't get me wrong, Deschamps can still feck this up but don't say the players are overrated.
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Team basically stinks of overated.
Kos is a joke cb, Mendy after 2 games at city is being heralded as the best crosser in the world, pogba, mbappe(half a good season), dembele.
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
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These major tournaments are rarely won by very young teams. You generally need quite a few experienced heads to pull it off, and I don't see many in that France team.
Agree. Don't see any leaders in that team tbh,
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
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These major tournaments are rarely won by very young teams. You generally need quite a few experienced heads to pull it off, and I don't see many in that France team.
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Yep. Euro 2020 might be a better shout for them. If we're looking at talent and experience then Belgium are a good shout - if they can turn up at the tournament. Hazard, Lukaku, KDB and Courtois all with 50+ caps despite being no older than 26, then there's the very-experienced likes of Vertonghen, Dembele, Alderweireld as well as the young talent that is Tielemans
Belgium could, but they'll need to know what they're playing at first.
Haven't watched them in qualifying under Martínez, but at the Euros they looked to have gone a long way backwards under Wilmots.
Also, if they're much of a Martínez side, I imagine they could leak goals pretty easily against the big boys.
Yes Martinez is definitely the wildcard there. Would struggle to perform worse than Wilmots though as they severely flattered to deceive at both tournaments he took them to.
I thought they looked ok in Brazil until they went out with a whimper.
But on the other hand, it's was the same baffling litlessness I've seen of late in many a national team at big tournaments. The lack of enthusiasm, energy or urgency has been appalling. Makes you wonder whether a winter World Cup might not actually be a better spectacle for the fans.
Belgium's WC showing wasn't bad in 2014. A QF loss against an established team who were stronger then them on paper and good wins over tricky sides like Algeria and USA.
The last Euro's was a bigger disappointment for them. After a great performance against Hungary, they looked very short of ideas against a Welsh side that they should be beating.
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posted on 11/9/17
comment by Spurtle2 (U1608)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Biglaa (U5954)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by RJCanty (U17308)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
Portugal are ridiculously average and shouldn't have been anywhere near the final of Euro 2016. Never has a team less deserving won a tournament. Dreadful.
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Ahem. Greece?Possibly Denmark as well?
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You can't lump Greece in with Portugal. Greece finished second in their group, drew with Spain and beat hosts Portugal and France on way to the semis, and then beat Portugal again in the final.
Portugal by comparison finished third in their group, didn't win a game in 90 mins until the semis, and only played 1 traditional big team in the final. Portugal are the worst winners in a pisss poor international tournament ever!
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Greece although unfashionable executed an effective gameplan and had good results against the better sides. Denmark is more of a fairytale bit again were effective and ultimately deserving of their triumph albeit a massive upset.
Portugal are a trash outfit and a one man team. Take Ronaldo (who is incredible) out of their team and they are ordinary at best. The last Euro's did nothing but make a farce of the competition.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 21 hours, 32 minutes ago
Germans. Always the Germans.
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Be sure.....we will be up for it. Brazil surely another favourite to win this.
posted on 12/9/17
France have a very good talented young squad but they dont work as a team. Too many egos and that is their main hindrance.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
France have a very good talented young squad but they dont work as a team. Too many egos and that is their main hindrance.
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As a nation, not just a football team.
posted on 12/9/17
Not funny
posted on 12/9/17
Are you a bit French, GT?
posted on 12/9/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 second ago
Are you a bit French, GT?
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No, why do you ask? Through and through German.
posted on 12/9/17
Hence the humour issue. :-p
posted on 12/9/17
GT, 'cos you didn't seem happy with the suggestion the French have a big ego as a nation.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, 'cos you didn't seem happy with the suggestion the French have a big ego as a nation.
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From a German view I think all nations including the british have their big egos.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by Biglaa (U5954)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hence the humour issue. :-p
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Another myth mate.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 16 minutes ago
From a German view I think all nations including the british have their big egos.
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I suppose that's just a part of what nationalism generallly involves.
That said though, not all people are equally arrogant, and I suppose that there may be varying levels of 'national arrogance' too.
I prefer the words arrogance, which is different to ego, but I think they're similar concepts in this case.
posted on 12/9/17
Germany, Spain, Brazil and more hopeful than actual reality, Argentina can challenge them.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by Taxi for Walcott & Giroud... (U10012)
posted 23 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by DubbedTheNewWenger90 (U19529)
posted 18 minutes ago
I agree. France are being overrated. They have a lot of promising young players. But the the thing is they are all similar players when you look at it.
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Overrated?!
--------------------------Lloris-----------------
Sidibe---------Varane------Kos-----------Mendy
-------------------Pogba-------Kante----------------------
Dembele----------Griezman----Mbappe--------Lemar
with a bench which would include the like of Rabbiot, Lacazette, Fekir, Tolisso, Umiti, etc..
Don't get me wrong, Deschamps can still feck this up but don't say the players are overrated.
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Team basically stinks of overated.
Kos is a joke cb, Mendy after 2 games at city is being heralded as the best crosser in the world, pogba, mbappe(half a good season), dembele.
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
posted on 12/9/17
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
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These major tournaments are rarely won by very young teams. You generally need quite a few experienced heads to pull it off, and I don't see many in that France team.
posted on 12/9/17
Agree. Don't see any leaders in that team tbh,
posted on 12/9/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 9 minutes ago
Not saying they are not good players but most are young and unproven, some are overrated.
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These major tournaments are rarely won by very young teams. You generally need quite a few experienced heads to pull it off, and I don't see many in that France team.
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Yep. Euro 2020 might be a better shout for them. If we're looking at talent and experience then Belgium are a good shout - if they can turn up at the tournament. Hazard, Lukaku, KDB and Courtois all with 50+ caps despite being no older than 26, then there's the very-experienced likes of Vertonghen, Dembele, Alderweireld as well as the young talent that is Tielemans
posted on 12/9/17
Belgium could, but they'll need to know what they're playing at first.
Haven't watched them in qualifying under Martínez, but at the Euros they looked to have gone a long way backwards under Wilmots.
Also, if they're much of a Martínez side, I imagine they could leak goals pretty easily against the big boys.
posted on 12/9/17
Yes Martinez is definitely the wildcard there. Would struggle to perform worse than Wilmots though as they severely flattered to deceive at both tournaments he took them to.
posted on 13/9/17
I thought they looked ok in Brazil until they went out with a whimper.
But on the other hand, it's was the same baffling litlessness I've seen of late in many a national team at big tournaments. The lack of enthusiasm, energy or urgency has been appalling. Makes you wonder whether a winter World Cup might not actually be a better spectacle for the fans.
posted on 13/9/17
Belgium's WC showing wasn't bad in 2014. A QF loss against an established team who were stronger then them on paper and good wins over tricky sides like Algeria and USA.
The last Euro's was a bigger disappointment for them. After a great performance against Hungary, they looked very short of ideas against a Welsh side that they should be beating.
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