comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Until then, a bit part player.
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And including then! You said yourself he barely played - surely the definition of a bit part player.
He got his chance the next season, when Soldado was fit. He didn't start the season as first choice, but his Europa perfomances led to his inclusion in the PL team ahead of a fit Soldado.
This was the comment I was disagreeing with : "when Soldado had been pants for years, he only played when Soldado was injured."- he hadn't been pants for years, he was only at Spurs two years. And he played when Soldado was fit - I don't mean a couple of token games at the end of a season, I mean established as first choice.
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Soldado missed 2 games towards the end of 13/14, at which point Adebayor has already come into the fold before Kane did. Kane got a couple of games but started 14/15 behind Adebayor and Soldado in the reckoning.
Kane belatedly got his chance due to the failings of Adebayor and Soldado to provide the goals, while Kane was impressing in the cups, something which Poch alluded to when he said that maybe Kane saved his job.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mauricio-pochettino-harry-kane-first-season-tottenham-rescued-job-a7949026.html?amp
So despite Winston’s fictional claims that Kane staked his claim towards the end of 13/14 and retained his place in the starting lineup from that moment onwards, we can clearly see that this is nonsense.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
I have looked it up.
Try this:
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=52657&season_id=143
The big question is, will you apologise when you realise you're wrong and I'm right?
Oh how sweet this is.
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So where does that evidence that Soldado didn’t start 22 games then?
Also, what is the point of this? Kane was developed, given chances, and when he was ready Soldado was dropped in favour for him and the rest is history.
Seemingly Spurs played the situation very well and produced one of the deadliest strikers in world football.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Nothing to do with Soldado?
'true breakthrough'
You just can't admit when you're wrong, can you?
Soldado was injured. Performance didn't come into it.
'Europa performances'
He'd started one Europa game that year.
Do you think I won't notice if you make things up?
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
Fictional?
Check your facts.
Soldado was injured for the Sunderland game.
Kane started.
You're backtracking and it's brilliant to watch.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
The point is that there was a very real chance that Kane may never have made it at Spurs.
'Europa performances'
He'd started one Europa game that year.
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Played 9 scored 7
Yes, true breakthrough. He was getting token games for 3 seasons. A true breakthrough is when you establish yourself in the first team. Otherwise his breakthrough season is in 11/12.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
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https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Token games are not six starts on the bounce.
You can disagree, but I was not wrong in what I said.
If Kane was so revered by Sherwood, and if this was all part of the plan, why was he getting so little game time prior to those six starts?
Adebayor replaced Soldado, as he had been doing all season...
comment by Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
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https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
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Check again.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
He played two up top.
Kane was in place of Soldado.
Token games are not six starts on the bounce.
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Last six games of the season... Many teams chuck youngsters in at the end of the season
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
He played two up top.
Kane was in place of Soldado.
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So Adebayor started the game before?
Nope. Adebayor replaced Soldado just as he had been doing all season!!!
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Except that's not what happened, as we can see with the Soldado injury.
And no, but Adebayor and Soldado had started plenty of games up top together that season.
You're just desperate not to admit I'm right.
It's pretty pathetic.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
Fictional?
Check your facts.
Soldado was injured for the Sunderland game.
Kane started.
You're backtracking and it's brilliant to watch.
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I’ve never not said that Soldado wasn’t injured at all in 13/14, so where have I backtracked?
Was he injured in 14/15 when Kane still wasn’t playing at the start of the season? No.
So Kane didn’t establish himself in 13/14 while Soldado was injured then did he? He established himself in 14/15 while Soldado was fit
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Except that's not what happened, as we can see with the Soldado injury.
And no, but Adebayor and Soldado had started plenty of games up top together that season.
You're just desperate not to admit I'm right.
It's pretty pathetic.
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Who started v Arsenal and Chelsea? Adebayor. Who started v Southampton and Liverpool? Soldado. Not both, one or the other. The two up front had long been abandoned.
Adebayor replaced Soldado, just as he had against Arsenal and Chelsea...
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
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https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
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Check again.
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Soldado in 13/14:
Squad - 36
Starts - 22
Subbed - 6
22 starts + 6 games brought on a sub = 28
28 appearances, of which 6 of them were coming off the bench means he started 22 games.
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
You have said Soldado being injured is not the reason Kane broke into the team.
But it is.
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
So come on, tell me what was fictional about what I said?
Oh, and how are those stats working our for you?
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
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Why is it? Not as if he started the next season as first choice. His performances in the Europa are what pushed him into the first team in the PL.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Has it occurred to you that Sherwood only went 4-4-2 against weaker opposition?
Stop trying to wriggle out of it.
Clearly the likelihood is that Sherwood would have gone 4-4-2 against Sunderland and that would have been with Adebayor and Soldado.
You're not stupid but you are desperate to avoid admitting I'm right.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Because his lack of minutes that season - increasingly so - suggests that Sherwood had no intention of integrating him into the squad.
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
And where were Harry Kane's 22 starts?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 minutes ago
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
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Why is it? Not as if he started the next season as first choice. His performances in the Europa are what pushed him into the first team in the PL.
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Thank you!
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
And where were Harry Kane's 22 starts?
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Soldado started 22 games which is what I said in the first place. Can’t you read?
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posted on 5/10/17
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Until then, a bit part player.
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And including then! You said yourself he barely played - surely the definition of a bit part player.
He got his chance the next season, when Soldado was fit. He didn't start the season as first choice, but his Europa perfomances led to his inclusion in the PL team ahead of a fit Soldado.
This was the comment I was disagreeing with : "when Soldado had been pants for years, he only played when Soldado was injured."- he hadn't been pants for years, he was only at Spurs two years. And he played when Soldado was fit - I don't mean a couple of token games at the end of a season, I mean established as first choice.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Soldado missed 2 games towards the end of 13/14, at which point Adebayor has already come into the fold before Kane did. Kane got a couple of games but started 14/15 behind Adebayor and Soldado in the reckoning.
Kane belatedly got his chance due to the failings of Adebayor and Soldado to provide the goals, while Kane was impressing in the cups, something which Poch alluded to when he said that maybe Kane saved his job.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mauricio-pochettino-harry-kane-first-season-tottenham-rescued-job-a7949026.html?amp
So despite Winston’s fictional claims that Kane staked his claim towards the end of 13/14 and retained his place in the starting lineup from that moment onwards, we can clearly see that this is nonsense.
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
I have looked it up.
Try this:
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=52657&season_id=143
The big question is, will you apologise when you realise you're wrong and I'm right?
Oh how sweet this is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So where does that evidence that Soldado didn’t start 22 games then?
posted on 5/10/17
Also, what is the point of this? Kane was developed, given chances, and when he was ready Soldado was dropped in favour for him and the rest is history.
Seemingly Spurs played the situation very well and produced one of the deadliest strikers in world football.
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Nothing to do with Soldado?
'true breakthrough'
You just can't admit when you're wrong, can you?
Soldado was injured. Performance didn't come into it.
'Europa performances'
He'd started one Europa game that year.
Do you think I won't notice if you make things up?
posted on 5/10/17
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
Fictional?
Check your facts.
Soldado was injured for the Sunderland game.
Kane started.
You're backtracking and it's brilliant to watch.
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
The point is that there was a very real chance that Kane may never have made it at Spurs.
posted on 5/10/17
'Europa performances'
He'd started one Europa game that year.
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Played 9 scored 7
Yes, true breakthrough. He was getting token games for 3 seasons. A true breakthrough is when you establish yourself in the first team. Otherwise his breakthrough season is in 11/12.
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Token games are not six starts on the bounce.
You can disagree, but I was not wrong in what I said.
If Kane was so revered by Sherwood, and if this was all part of the plan, why was he getting so little game time prior to those six starts?
posted on 5/10/17
Adebayor replaced Soldado, as he had been doing all season...
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Check again.
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
He played two up top.
Kane was in place of Soldado.
posted on 5/10/17
Token games are not six starts on the bounce.
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Last six games of the season... Many teams chuck youngsters in at the end of the season
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
He played two up top.
Kane was in place of Soldado.
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So Adebayor started the game before?
Nope. Adebayor replaced Soldado just as he had been doing all season!!!
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Except that's not what happened, as we can see with the Soldado injury.
And no, but Adebayor and Soldado had started plenty of games up top together that season.
You're just desperate not to admit I'm right.
It's pretty pathetic.
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
Fictional?
Check your facts.
Soldado was injured for the Sunderland game.
Kane started.
You're backtracking and it's brilliant to watch.
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I’ve never not said that Soldado wasn’t injured at all in 13/14, so where have I backtracked?
Was he injured in 14/15 when Kane still wasn’t playing at the start of the season? No.
So Kane didn’t establish himself in 13/14 while Soldado was injured then did he? He established himself in 14/15 while Soldado was fit
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 seconds ago
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Except that's not what happened, as we can see with the Soldado injury.
And no, but Adebayor and Soldado had started plenty of games up top together that season.
You're just desperate not to admit I'm right.
It's pretty pathetic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who started v Arsenal and Chelsea? Adebayor. Who started v Southampton and Liverpool? Soldado. Not both, one or the other. The two up front had long been abandoned.
Adebayor replaced Soldado, just as he had against Arsenal and Chelsea...
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 8 minutes ago
Transfer League.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.premierleague.com/players/4846/Roberto-Soldado/overview
Exact same stats
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Check again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Soldado in 13/14:
Squad - 36
Starts - 22
Subbed - 6
22 starts + 6 games brought on a sub = 28
28 appearances, of which 6 of them were coming off the bench means he started 22 games.
posted on 5/10/17
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
You have said Soldado being injured is not the reason Kane broke into the team.
But it is.
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
So come on, tell me what was fictional about what I said?
Oh, and how are those stats working our for you?
posted on 5/10/17
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
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Why is it? Not as if he started the next season as first choice. His performances in the Europa are what pushed him into the first team in the PL.
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Has it occurred to you that Sherwood only went 4-4-2 against weaker opposition?
Stop trying to wriggle out of it.
Clearly the likelihood is that Sherwood would have gone 4-4-2 against Sunderland and that would have been with Adebayor and Soldado.
You're not stupid but you are desperate to avoid admitting I'm right.
posted on 5/10/17
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
Because his lack of minutes that season - increasingly so - suggests that Sherwood had no intention of integrating him into the squad.
posted on 5/10/17
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
And where were Harry Kane's 22 starts?
posted on 5/10/17
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 8 minutes ago
Kane did establish himself when Soldado was injured. Had that period of six games never happened, it's quite feasible Kane may never have got his chance.
======
Why is it? Not as if he started the next season as first choice. His performances in the Europa are what pushed him into the first team in the PL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you!
posted on 5/10/17
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ledders-I must confess my love for Neo,I've dreamed of his manhood in my face smelling of B.O.He fills my rear end with his cream, the rest is bottled just like Spurs title dream. (U20121)
And where were Harry Kane's 22 starts?
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Soldado started 22 games which is what I said in the first place. Can’t you read?
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