comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 7 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure these 'people' are not just leaving their homes, families, jobs etc for a boat ride.
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Why leave if you have all this.
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They’re obviously doing it for the lols

Or perhaps the country they did live in had been blown up and ravaged by war.
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And climate change.

In a tweet, Ms Patel said the talks were constructive, adding: "I made clear that delivering results and stopping crossings were an absolute priority for the British people."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58495948.amp

Not a priority for me Priti you heartless, drawbridge pulling up cant!

So Winston Churchill has now been compared to (ironically) Hitler and Jimmy Saville

What a joke

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comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
So Winston Churchill has now been compared to (ironically) Hitler and Jimmy Saville

What a joke
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And Kim Jong Un
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Yes who is apparently not left-wing either…..

Whilst recognising historical contributions (both good and bad) is important, retrospectively applying modern social standards to those of 70/80 years ago is pointless.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? McDonald’s Milkshake connoisseur (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
Whilst recognising historical contributions (both good and bad) is important, retrospectively applying modern social standards to those of 70/80 years ago is pointless.


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Fair & balanced post mate

WW1 + 2 isn't history.

And to reply on the Candace Owens point. She clearly said socialist policies and what she is referring to are policies such as raising the minimum wage which absolutely benefit people like Bezos.

And this explains why

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3gj87/why-amazon-is-flooding-the-country-with-dollar15-minimum-wage-ads

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
And to reply on the Candace Owens point. She clearly said socialist policies and what she is referring to are policies such as raising the minimum wage which absolutely benefit people like Bezos.

And this explains why

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3gj87/why-amazon-is-flooding-the-country-with-dollar15-minimum-wage-ads
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Is it because free market capitalism and ineffective tax policies have facilitated the growth of oligopolies across different industries?

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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
And to reply on the Candace Owens point. She clearly said socialist policies and what she is referring to are policies such as raising the minimum wage which absolutely benefit people like Bezos.

And this explains why

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3gj87/why-amazon-is-flooding-the-country-with-dollar15-minimum-wage-ads
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Is it because free market capitalism and ineffective tax policies have facilitated the growth of oligopolies across different industries?
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Nothing is stopping Bezos no: 2 popping up

He started in his garage and smashed it. If someone also smashes it, they will succeed.

The point is that she is making the point that they advocate for policies such as increasing the minimum wage as it actually benefits them.

I’m not going to debate FMC, taxation, tax receipts, benefits from having multinational etc - it’s all been down to death mate.

As has Churchill yet...

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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? McDonald’s Milkshake connoisseur (U3126)
posted 30 minutes ago
Whilst recognising historical contributions (both good and bad) is important, retrospectively applying modern social standards to those of 70/80 years ago is pointless.
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Recognising what you said, at what point do we apply these modern standards then? are we not in modern times now?

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
So Winston Churchill has now been compared to (ironically) Hitler and Jimmy Saville

What a joke
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And Kim Jong Un
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Yes who is apparently not left-wing either…..
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Culturally the left wing is about equality in society, equality and equity, if you go too far right you end up with people with the freedom to identify as a saucer and marry their goat

The right is about authority and privilege to those who are worthy of it, such as monarchs or stray too far and you have white supremacists/natzis who believe they are superior to blacks/Jews

The ultimate fantasy of right wing authoritarians is a supreme leader/living God dictatorship, which is exactly the situation in North Korea.

We can then come on to the subject of their economic policy, and the idea of communism, but they aren't a communist country, they departed that ideology with the fall of the soviets who backed them financially, and the ruling family have since seized power making it an authoritarian dictatorship, something which can't really exist in a true form of communism, nor does the insane amassed personal wealth of their family of dictators.

Of course it shares similarities because everything is state owned, but it's more akin to a fuedal monarchy than true communism where everything is owned by the state to the benefit of everyone, in North Korean "Juche" everything is owned by the state, to the benefit of their supreme leader.

If people would stop looking at politics as a bar, and see it as the circle it really is, with centrism the bottom centre of the ring, North Korea is at the apex,

comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
And to reply on the Candace Owens point. She clearly said socialist policies and what she is referring to are policies such as raising the minimum wage which absolutely benefit people like Bezos.

And this explains why

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3gj87/why-amazon-is-flooding-the-country-with-dollar15-minimum-wage-ads
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Is it because free market capitalism and ineffective tax policies have facilitated the growth of oligopolies across different industries?
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The USA and UK are not free market capitalist society's.

They intervene heavily in the market, on the side of the corporation's.

comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
It's also something that doesn't need to be brought up every time his name is mentioned. I think that is what irks many and beings about the response of unpatriotic, woke, etc
------------------------------------------------------------------------I'm pretty sure he's had nothing but praise for about 100 years, people are just looking at the 'other' things he done now, apart from being involved in the war...and it's not a good look.
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100 years!!!!! 🤔
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Secretary of State for the colonies starting in the 1920s.
That's about 100 years.

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
So Winston Churchill has now been compared to (ironically) Hitler and Jimmy Saville

What a joke
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And Kim Jong Un
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Yes who is apparently not left-wing either…..
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Culturally the left wing is about equality in society, financial equality/equity, if you go too far LEFT you end up with people with the freedom to identify as a saucer and marry their goat

The right is about authority and privilege to those who are worthy of it, such as monarchs or stray too far and you have white supremacists/natzis who believe they are superior to blacks/Jews

The ultimate fantasy of right wing authoritarians is a supreme leader/living God dictatorship, which is exactly the situation in North Korea.

We can then come on to the subject of their economic policy, and the idea of communism, but they aren't a communist country, they departed that ideology with the fall of the soviets who backed them financially, and the ruling family have since seized MORE power/WEALTH making it an authoritarian dictatorship, something which can't really exist in a true form of communism, nor CAN the insane amassed personal wealth of their family of dictators.

Of course it shares similarities because everything is state owned, but it's more akin to a fuedal monarchy than true communism where everything is owned by the state to the benefit of everyone, in North Korean "Juche" everything is owned by the state, to the benefit of their supreme leader.

If people would stop looking at politics as a bar, and see it as the circle it really is, with centrism the bottom centre of the ring, North Korea is at the apex,
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Edited mistakes sorry, I should post whilst playing on the PlayStation, I do neither thing well

SHOULDNT

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Stalin saved the world if you want that argument, he did more than Churchill.
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This. But who overlooks his crimes?

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted about a minute ago
If you support what the shop did then you think he did more bad than good. If you genuinely believe that I would like you to come out and admit it instead of hiding behind some copout "just trying to bring balance" argument.
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Do you take this stance with TBAB?
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Of course not.

Scott Morrison (sporting shiiiit-eating grin):

“Well, it was a trade deal. It wasn’t a climate deal.”

Oh, go jump in a vat of toxic waste you facking disingenuous, corrupt waanksack

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