comment by Zachsda( The palms of my feet are sore from walking) (U1850)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
Both sides should be banned from marching. Fooking ridiculous, they only do it to antagonize the other side.
Time to move forward into the 21st century.
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What's your hurry?
You, sir, are correct.
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Coonts
I get a Provy check once a year to buy brogues and ye steal my moment
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Provo check, ya say.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Wider, tangentially-related philosophical point:
There is a huge difference between ‘respecting the alternative views of others’ and ‘respecting people’s right to hold alternative views’.
I see people writing on here from time-to-time that we should all “try to be more respectful of others’ views” (or similar).
Nope; not for me.
Whilst I will always respect (and defend) others’ right to hold opinions and views I don’t share, I don’t and won’t commit to respecting those views, or giving them any more time or consideration that they absolutely deserve.
No idea, belief system or view deserves an absolute right to be respected.
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Nail on head.
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Ouch lol
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posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
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posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
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posted about a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder if during the crusades people debatex the problem with globalist Catholic extremism
Or if globalist Islamic extremism existed before that.
I don't even remember it being a significant problem before we went back for round three: desert storm 2
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Islam didn't play nice prior to the crusades. Not to berate them in particular, because none of them played nice.
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Genuinely interested in some examples, I don't know a huge amount of history prior to the medieval times.
Think some people fought dinosaurs, or maybe on dinosaurs or something
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Historically, and even up to the Sokoto caliphate in Nigeria a century ago, the general rule after conquering countries was to give the population a choice of converting to Islam or death. However if the Islamic leader was nice, slavery or a taxation (Jizya) could be an option.
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Much like the Catholics of the middle ages then, surprise surprise, humans being diiiicks to one another in the name of their god
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I do wonder is man corrupted religion or religion corrupted man. 🤷♂️
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I think that was touched on earlier
Tbab believes the first, I believe the second.
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Well it is a man made concept. Used to control and unite societies.
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God and your mother forgive ye.😂
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
Reality is, myself and celtic republican mates respect each other, as do boys in Glasgow, but often "outsiders" or folk with some agenda want to tell us not to be Rangers or Celtic, orange or green, irish or british, unionist or nationalists.
The fact that guys from England and London are telling me how it is, was not lost on paddy here, as London merchants, govt, business interest, the metropitan elite, had quite the hand in fooking Ireland up, north n south.
Bassas send us over then crap all over us, just like Boris.lol
And how come it is ok for Irish catholics to move to Glasgow or Britain, bringing all their religous, cultural and political baggage, but if prods move from Britain to Ireland, or from Ulster to west of Scotland, they have to bin their religous, cultural and political baggage??
Shackin so it is.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
London is in England, Glasgow is in Britain.
For the record, for a decade i have said Rangers fans and Scots unionists should bin sectarianism and racism, ditch the offensive songs and patter, cut out uvf praise and move on.
You can be a loyalist, orangeman, unionist and not a bigot or racist.
You let yourselves and the cause down and give your "enemies" ammo.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
London is in England, Glasgow is in Britain.
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Well done, you got summat right, Einstein.😉😊
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
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They people I know are normal, from all faiths and none, they don't hold truck with these extremists.
Why do so many of these bigots use these cough cough church parades as gathering opportunities to get steamed up and violent with like minded souls if its all so harmless, just a cultural thing?
I believe your ire and witabootery is misdirected, get your own house in order, it's 2021 ffs!
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
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They people I know are normal, from all faiths and none, they don't hold truck with these extremists.
Why do so many of these bigots use these cough cough church parades as gathering opportunities to get steamed up and violent with like minded souls if its all so harmless, just a cultural thing?
I believe your ire and witabootery is misdirected, get your own house in order, it's 2021 ffs!
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Labelling the whole group of people in Glasgow today as extremist, based on the actions of the few.
Do you know any orange folk, loyalists or bandsmen as i do and they are not extremists.
Do you think tic fans are all extremist if some sing about pira, dead protestants, or DOB or Lee Rigby?
Do you think SF are extremist, and same with green bands and religous catholic orders or marches?
I have never seen you post against ra parades, sectarian and racist singing at Paddys day events, Hibernian marches for Irish and Catholic holy days etc
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 4 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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Topical, innit.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
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When you watch these parades, are you called names, would you get battered if you crossed it, do they sing/flute songs about being up to their knees in your blood, are they synonymous with hate speech and drunken violence? That's my issue with your witabootery.
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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You brought up a specific religion by saying Judaism banned a muslim march, but i was referencing political extremism from islamists.....i was not attacking islam, but you went for Judaism, rather than Israel or zionism.
Do you regret that now and what would a jewish person feel if they read your post about their faith?
Islamists distort and use religion....poitical
Attacking Judaism and using "Jewish Israel" as a term is not a good look.
After the whole corbyn and labour antisemitism shame i thought you would have learned from mistakes made.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Is that true Hector? 🤔
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Sadly not.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
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When you watch these parades, are you called names, would you get battered if you crossed it, do they sing/flute songs about being up to their knees in your blood, are they synonymous with hate speech and drunken violence? That's my issue with your witabootery.
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I attended Twelfth parades with catholics, chinese people, asians, irish nats, Dubliners etc and they are not called names.
They can be odd about walking across them, but thst is not sectarian and if i walked out in front of them i might get an ear full, but you can cross between bands lodges at gaps or intervals
There are party songs and billy boys, just as there are at Celtic games and ra parades or Paddys day parades, where people get drunk and fight and sing i woykd rather be the P word than a hunn etc.
I still watch Paddy day parades in central belfast or Dublin.
Never heard a hate speech at an orange meeting or the Field...its about Queen and faith and the union.
You think the worst about them and perhaps fear loyalists.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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You brought up a specific religion by saying Judaism banned a muslim march, but i was referencing political extremism from islamists.....i was not attacking islam, but you went for Judaism, rather than Israel or zionism.
Do you regret that now and what would a jewish person feel if they read your post about their faith?
Islamists distort and use religion....poitical
Attacking Judaism and using "Jewish Israel" as a term is not a good look.
After the whole corbyn and labour antisemitism shame i thought you would have learned from mistakes made.
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You are just making shiiiiite up, taking it out of the context of the situation.
Perhaps learn to read properly before trying to educate others
He can read, he knows the context
Just going for a cheap point score
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
He can read, he knows the context
Just going for a cheap point score
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Its quite offensive tbh
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posted on 18/9/21
comment by Zachsda( The palms of my feet are sore from walking) (U1850)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 4 hours, 12 minutes ago
Both sides should be banned from marching. Fooking ridiculous, they only do it to antagonize the other side.
Time to move forward into the 21st century.
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What's your hurry?
You, sir, are correct.
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Coonts
I get a Provy check once a year to buy brogues and ye steal my moment
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Provo check, ya say.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Wider, tangentially-related philosophical point:
There is a huge difference between ‘respecting the alternative views of others’ and ‘respecting people’s right to hold alternative views’.
I see people writing on here from time-to-time that we should all “try to be more respectful of others’ views” (or similar).
Nope; not for me.
Whilst I will always respect (and defend) others’ right to hold opinions and views I don’t share, I don’t and won’t commit to respecting those views, or giving them any more time or consideration that they absolutely deserve.
No idea, belief system or view deserves an absolute right to be respected.
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Nail on head.
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Ouch lol
posted on 18/9/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wonder if during the crusades people debatex the problem with globalist Catholic extremism
Or if globalist Islamic extremism existed before that.
I don't even remember it being a significant problem before we went back for round three: desert storm 2
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Islam didn't play nice prior to the crusades. Not to berate them in particular, because none of them played nice.
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Genuinely interested in some examples, I don't know a huge amount of history prior to the medieval times.
Think some people fought dinosaurs, or maybe on dinosaurs or something
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Historically, and even up to the Sokoto caliphate in Nigeria a century ago, the general rule after conquering countries was to give the population a choice of converting to Islam or death. However if the Islamic leader was nice, slavery or a taxation (Jizya) could be an option.
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Much like the Catholics of the middle ages then, surprise surprise, humans being diiiicks to one another in the name of their god
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I do wonder is man corrupted religion or religion corrupted man. 🤷♂️
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I think that was touched on earlier
Tbab believes the first, I believe the second.
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Well it is a man made concept. Used to control and unite societies.
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God and your mother forgive ye.😂
posted on 18/9/21
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
posted on 18/9/21
Reality is, myself and celtic republican mates respect each other, as do boys in Glasgow, but often "outsiders" or folk with some agenda want to tell us not to be Rangers or Celtic, orange or green, irish or british, unionist or nationalists.
The fact that guys from England and London are telling me how it is, was not lost on paddy here, as London merchants, govt, business interest, the metropitan elite, had quite the hand in fooking Ireland up, north n south.
Bassas send us over then crap all over us, just like Boris.lol
And how come it is ok for Irish catholics to move to Glasgow or Britain, bringing all their religous, cultural and political baggage, but if prods move from Britain to Ireland, or from Ulster to west of Scotland, they have to bin their religous, cultural and political baggage??
Shackin so it is.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
posted on 18/9/21
London is in England, Glasgow is in Britain.
posted on 18/9/21
For the record, for a decade i have said Rangers fans and Scots unionists should bin sectarianism and racism, ditch the offensive songs and patter, cut out uvf praise and move on.
You can be a loyalist, orangeman, unionist and not a bigot or racist.
You let yourselves and the cause down and give your "enemies" ammo.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 5 minutes ago
London is in England, Glasgow is in Britain.
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Well done, you got summat right, Einstein.😉😊
posted on 18/9/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
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They people I know are normal, from all faiths and none, they don't hold truck with these extremists.
Why do so many of these bigots use these cough cough church parades as gathering opportunities to get steamed up and violent with like minded souls if its all so harmless, just a cultural thing?
I believe your ire and witabootery is misdirected, get your own house in order, it's 2021 ffs!
posted on 18/9/21
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
posted on 18/9/21
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
Give respect to earn respect, let's give them the respect they deserve.
Public Processions in Glasgow - statement by Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland
Chief Superintendent Mark Sutherland, Divisional Commander for Greater Glasgow said:
"We are aware that on a number of occasions today there have been outbreaks of racist and sectarian singing by some of those attending to support the Orange Order processions, this is utterly unacceptable and we completely condemn this behaviour.
"Where possible, we are seeking to take action against those intent on causing harm and dividing our communities, we have already made arrests in connection with various offences and will continue to do so where required. With large crowds gathering today, our main priority has been public safety and to ensure minimum disruption to the wider public.
"Once again, we see a number of people intent in causing offence and stirring up hatred by singing unacceptable sectarian and racist songs, I want to again condemn this behaviour in the strongest possible terms.
"It is clear that sectarianism remains a serious, ongoing problem in Scotland and whilst policing has an important role in tackling this type of behaviour, this is a collective problem and needs to be addressed in a collective, collaborative manner."
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I thought you said the Scotland you grew up in was not divided, unlike Belfast n Derry....few hours ago?
There are nutters and bigots in orange and blue, and in green hoops, Glasgow ra bands, Scottish Hibernian lodges, but most Celtic guys and republican guys are not bigots or racist.
Black rangers players get racist abuse off celtic fans, and irish republicans, who call folk orange bastirts and sing about pira or Lee Rigby, but do we ban celtic fc fans meeting in numbers or irish republicanism?
A percentage of the population may support islamist extremism, so do we condemn a whole group, or call out the few bad eggs?
You and others are demonizing and stereotyping all loyalists, all the orange and all in Glasgow wearing blue tops or sashes.
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
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They people I know are normal, from all faiths and none, they don't hold truck with these extremists.
Why do so many of these bigots use these cough cough church parades as gathering opportunities to get steamed up and violent with like minded souls if its all so harmless, just a cultural thing?
I believe your ire and witabootery is misdirected, get your own house in order, it's 2021 ffs!
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Labelling the whole group of people in Glasgow today as extremist, based on the actions of the few.
Do you know any orange folk, loyalists or bandsmen as i do and they are not extremists.
Do you think tic fans are all extremist if some sing about pira, dead protestants, or DOB or Lee Rigby?
Do you think SF are extremist, and same with green bands and religous catholic orders or marches?
I have never seen you post against ra parades, sectarian and racist singing at Paddys day events, Hibernian marches for Irish and Catholic holy days etc
posted on 18/9/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 4 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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Topical, innit.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
posted on 18/9/21
Is that true Hector? 🤔
posted on 18/9/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
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When you watch these parades, are you called names, would you get battered if you crossed it, do they sing/flute songs about being up to their knees in your blood, are they synonymous with hate speech and drunken violence? That's my issue with your witabootery.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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You brought up a specific religion by saying Judaism banned a muslim march, but i was referencing political extremism from islamists.....i was not attacking islam, but you went for Judaism, rather than Israel or zionism.
Do you regret that now and what would a jewish person feel if they read your post about their faith?
Islamists distort and use religion....poitical
Attacking Judaism and using "Jewish Israel" as a term is not a good look.
After the whole corbyn and labour antisemitism shame i thought you would have learned from mistakes made.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
Is that true Hector? 🤔
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Sadly not.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
It is being a bigot, while claiming to be liberal and progressive.
You want me to be tolerant of the intolerant, is that it?
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You are more concerned about a few neds in Glasgow than the taliban takeover and global islamist extremism ruining millions of lives, or Biden being an absolute mess or China being a dangerous undemocratic super power.
Its quite parochial and revealing.
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Oh come on! Its meant to be a conversation.
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I can respect Catholic, republican, Paddys day parades and views and events, without labelling them as bigots or extremist.
It is that simple.
You and others cannot tolerate Protestant, Loyalist or pro- British displays.
That is sad.
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When you watch these parades, are you called names, would you get battered if you crossed it, do they sing/flute songs about being up to their knees in your blood, are they synonymous with hate speech and drunken violence? That's my issue with your witabootery.
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I attended Twelfth parades with catholics, chinese people, asians, irish nats, Dubliners etc and they are not called names.
They can be odd about walking across them, but thst is not sectarian and if i walked out in front of them i might get an ear full, but you can cross between bands lodges at gaps or intervals
There are party songs and billy boys, just as there are at Celtic games and ra parades or Paddys day parades, where people get drunk and fight and sing i woykd rather be the P word than a hunn etc.
I still watch Paddy day parades in central belfast or Dublin.
Never heard a hate speech at an orange meeting or the Field...its about Queen and faith and the union.
You think the worst about them and perhaps fear loyalists.
posted on 18/9/21
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cant discuss anything in isolation, Must always mention Islamism.
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You brought up a specific religion by saying Judaism banned a muslim march, but i was referencing political extremism from islamists.....i was not attacking islam, but you went for Judaism, rather than Israel or zionism.
Do you regret that now and what would a jewish person feel if they read your post about their faith?
Islamists distort and use religion....poitical
Attacking Judaism and using "Jewish Israel" as a term is not a good look.
After the whole corbyn and labour antisemitism shame i thought you would have learned from mistakes made.
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You are just making shiiiiite up, taking it out of the context of the situation.
Perhaps learn to read properly before trying to educate others
posted on 18/9/21
He can read, he knows the context
Just going for a cheap point score
posted on 18/9/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
He can read, he knows the context
Just going for a cheap point score
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Its quite offensive tbh
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