comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a balanced overview, thank you.
Ciggies going up 83p
Fk the tories!
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Ciggies going up 83p
Fk the tories!
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Oh ffs that’s it. Right lads, I’m now with you comrades.
I can now unite my colours of club football with colours of political allegiance
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
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What was the RPI when the minimum wage was last increased?
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What was the RPI when the minimum wage was last increased?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Make your point
Boris Johnson promises a high wage economy but the @OBR_UK - the government’s own forecaster - sees no sign of one, even far out on the horizon.
@resfoundation calculates that real pay (adjusted for rising inflation) will fall again next year and will stagnate until 2025.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCxK42iXIAIlnmL?format=jpg&name=small
Tory Britain
It is.
Fact Contract given to Malaysians company in March 2020
Fact Government say that DD was done and nothing substantiated
Fact October 2021 US Customs ban accepting goods from this company
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Satty I thought you said they didn't know about it. Now you're saying they did but it wasn't substantiated.
You will also know that in procurement it doesn't have to be substantiated for them to be denied the opportunity.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is.
Fact Contract given to Malaysians company in March 2020
Fact Government say that DD was done and nothing substantiated
Fact October 2021 US Customs ban accepting goods from this company
------
Satty I thought you said they didn't know about it. Now you're saying they did but it wasn't substantiated.
You will also know that in procurement it doesn't have to be substantiated for them to be denied the opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They didn’t know about it; their statement says so. The 19 month gap is also something you seem to be avoiding
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Money becomes worthless if too much is printed. If the Money Supply increases faster than real output then, ceteris paribus, inflation will occur. If you print more money, the amount of goods doesn't change. ... If there is more money chasing the same amount of goods, firms will just put up prices
They're already £15 a pack!
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wasn't aware I am responsible and happy with printing money.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a balanced overview, thank you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Sat Nav's well balanced overview.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 15 hours, 58 minutes ago
- A conservative PM proposed and passed the bill for there to be an EU referendum with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM triggered article 50 with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM campaigned on a slogan of “get brexit done” with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM proposed the EU withdrawal act with the support of the Conservative party and passed that into law
What does (and I paraphrase) the tories didn’t put brexit into place mean in the context of the above?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can add to that the facts that:
- members of this Tory govt, other Tory MPs and Tory donors led the Leave campaigns, and were at the heart of fundraising to support the campaigns
- May’s government conceived of and quickly made dogma uncrossable and wholly obstructive red lines which set the tone and course of the negotiations, effectively ruling out any form of soft Brexit
- May’s government when presented with *myriad* options for a closer relationship with the EU as proposed by the EU itself, the leaders of other member states and other UK political parties rejected each of these unceremoniously
- Successive Tory govts refused to engage across the benches and work with parties proposing alternative options to the form of extreme hard Brexit they were busy engineering, despite wide public support
- Boris’s govt didn’t allow any Parliamentary or independent scrutiny of exit deal negotiations, or sight of the deal before it went to Parliamentary debate just hours before the deadline for sign off
- Boris’s govt didn’t even bother looking to public opinion on the terms of the deal
There’s no argument that Brexit, and *this* Brexit, is the Tories’ to own, and any narrative to the contrary is a dishonest fiction.
They enabled, supported, realised and (largely) celebrated every single step in the process, including engineering a widely negative public opinion of the EU in the two decades leading to the vote.
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
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good point, Sat Nav won't want history to be rewritten
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
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good point, Sat Nav won't want history to be rewritten
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We should erect a statue with all of that on so it can't be edited.
Could we put a monument / statue up to serve as a reminder what folly Brexit was?
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 seconds ago
Could we put a monument / statue up to serve as a reminder what folly Brexit was?
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Only if the plaque states what a roaring success it was and of people want to look up what really happened they can.
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posted on 28/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
posted on 28/10/21
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a balanced overview, thank you.
posted on 28/10/21
Ciggies going up 83p
Fk the tories!
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
Ciggies going up 83p
Fk the tories!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh ffs that’s it. Right lads, I’m now with you comrades.
I can now unite my colours of club football with colours of political allegiance
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What was the RPI when the minimum wage was last increased?
posted on 28/10/21
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The min wage increase was 6.6%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What was the RPI when the minimum wage was last increased?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Make your point
posted on 28/10/21
Boris Johnson promises a high wage economy but the @OBR_UK - the government’s own forecaster - sees no sign of one, even far out on the horizon.
@resfoundation calculates that real pay (adjusted for rising inflation) will fall again next year and will stagnate until 2025.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCxK42iXIAIlnmL?format=jpg&name=small
Tory Britain
posted on 28/10/21
It is.
Fact Contract given to Malaysians company in March 2020
Fact Government say that DD was done and nothing substantiated
Fact October 2021 US Customs ban accepting goods from this company
------
Satty I thought you said they didn't know about it. Now you're saying they did but it wasn't substantiated.
You will also know that in procurement it doesn't have to be substantiated for them to be denied the opportunity.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
It is.
Fact Contract given to Malaysians company in March 2020
Fact Government say that DD was done and nothing substantiated
Fact October 2021 US Customs ban accepting goods from this company
------
Satty I thought you said they didn't know about it. Now you're saying they did but it wasn't substantiated.
You will also know that in procurement it doesn't have to be substantiated for them to be denied the opportunity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They didn’t know about it; their statement says so. The 19 month gap is also something you seem to be avoiding
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Money becomes worthless if too much is printed. If the Money Supply increases faster than real output then, ceteris paribus, inflation will occur. If you print more money, the amount of goods doesn't change. ... If there is more money chasing the same amount of goods, firms will just put up prices
posted on 28/10/21
They're already £15 a pack!
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I wasn't aware I am responsible and happy with printing money.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 9 minutes ago
Prices higher. Economic output lower. Universal credit decrease. NI increase.
People will be poorer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a balanced overview, thank you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - I got 5 on it. (U1282)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
The OBR have said that the impact of Brexit is larger than the impact of Covid. Brexit is expect to reduce GDP by 4%. Covid is expected to reduce GDP by 2%. Inflation expected to reach as high as 5%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59070020
That wipes out any minimum wage increase.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So? Once inflation rates go back to normal again the minimum wage will still be as it is being set to now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the prices will be higher.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to the world of printing money. This is what happens. You chaps are happy with it most of the time, well these are the consequences.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What the fack is this?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's Sat Nav's well balanced overview.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 15 hours, 58 minutes ago
- A conservative PM proposed and passed the bill for there to be an EU referendum with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM triggered article 50 with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM campaigned on a slogan of “get brexit done” with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM proposed the EU withdrawal act with the support of the Conservative party and passed that into law
What does (and I paraphrase) the tories didn’t put brexit into place mean in the context of the above?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can add to that the facts that:
- members of this Tory govt, other Tory MPs and Tory donors led the Leave campaigns, and were at the heart of fundraising to support the campaigns
- May’s government conceived of and quickly made dogma uncrossable and wholly obstructive red lines which set the tone and course of the negotiations, effectively ruling out any form of soft Brexit
- May’s government when presented with *myriad* options for a closer relationship with the EU as proposed by the EU itself, the leaders of other member states and other UK political parties rejected each of these unceremoniously
- Successive Tory govts refused to engage across the benches and work with parties proposing alternative options to the form of extreme hard Brexit they were busy engineering, despite wide public support
- Boris’s govt didn’t allow any Parliamentary or independent scrutiny of exit deal negotiations, or sight of the deal before it went to Parliamentary debate just hours before the deadline for sign off
- Boris’s govt didn’t even bother looking to public opinion on the terms of the deal
There’s no argument that Brexit, and *this* Brexit, is the Tories’ to own, and any narrative to the contrary is a dishonest fiction.
They enabled, supported, realised and (largely) celebrated every single step in the process, including engineering a widely negative public opinion of the EU in the two decades leading to the vote.
posted on 28/10/21
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
good point, Sat Nav won't want history to be rewritten
posted on 28/10/21
comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Ross O'Bianchi (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
^ I will add to the above that it is critically important that we don’t allow this history to be rewritten in the minds of the British public.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
good point, Sat Nav won't want history to be rewritten
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We should erect a statue with all of that on so it can't be edited.
posted on 28/10/21
Could we put a monument / statue up to serve as a reminder what folly Brexit was?
posted on 28/10/21
comment by *Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 6 seconds ago
Could we put a monument / statue up to serve as a reminder what folly Brexit was?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only if the plaque states what a roaring success it was and of people want to look up what really happened they can.
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