Bit of humour mate calm down...

Given the Western press being quite specific in calling it Putin's war, I'm not surprised there's been incidents, just don't believe it's widespread.
Just like I won't be surprised if/when one of the Ukrainian refugees being housed does something bad certain faces will be outraged even though it won't be widespread.

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Aw FFS. Have any of you seen this Russian Lives Matter thing on Twitter?
One of my favorite right wing lady grifters Candace Owens.
Maybe she's not serious though.
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Is she defending Putin’s actions or condemning the abuse that normal Russians are receiving for simply being Russian? 🤔
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Tell me which normal Russians have been abused? And where? I'm interested in knowing this.
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You don’t think any Russians have received abuse because of what Putin has done? Purely out of association?
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Not seen or heard about any non Putin associate getting abuse, no.
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I didn’t ask that. Do you doubt it is happening? You don’t think it’s likely? You don’t think there are sufficient stupid, uninformed bigoted people to abuse innocent people purely because they are Russian??

OK
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Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and those behind the “Russian lives matter” campaign given what we know about how Russia attempts to spread disinformation and how it appears the American right wingers are willing (unknowing or knowing) participants.
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Yeah www.time.com I mean, just come clean. Your real address is ww.russiandisinformation.kkk

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What I think celebs/large companies etc should do if they really care is to crowdfund for the purchase and/or construction of useful large and well-run, privately run, hostel type accommodation for refugees and homeless people in general.
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This could have legs but just like housing them in other people's homes is doomed to failure without local govt support and guidance
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It might do but I think crowdfunding it and being run privately by professionals could probably do a better job than the govt.

On a small example scale - crowd funding received of say £1m buy three large ish houses up north for like £350,000 leaving £650k to run it for like 5 years? Feeding, heating, clothing housing like a hostel / B&B

Charitable donation or maybe the charity sells the houses after 5 years and profits given to investors?

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Aw FFS. Have any of you seen this Russian Lives Matter thing on Twitter?
One of my favorite right wing lady grifters Candace Owens.
Maybe she's not serious though.
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Is she defending Putin’s actions or condemning the abuse that normal Russians are receiving for simply being Russian? 🤔
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Tell me which normal Russians have been abused? And where? I'm interested in knowing this.
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You don’t think any Russians have received abuse because of what Putin has done? Purely out of association?
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Not seen or heard about any non Putin associate getting abuse, no.
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I didn’t ask that. Do you doubt it is happening? You don’t think it’s likely? You don’t think there are sufficient stupid, uninformed bigoted people to abuse innocent people purely because they are Russian??

OK
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Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and those behind the “Russian lives matter” campaign given what we know about how Russia attempts to spread disinformation and how it appears the American right wingers are willing (unknowing or knowing) participants.
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Yeah www.time.com I mean, just come clean. Your real address is ww.russiandisinformation.kkk
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Oh, did the www.time.com article talk about the “Russian lives matter” movement? I admittedly speed-read it but I don’t recall seeing it referenced.

Fwiw the way we treat our veterans is pretty appalling.

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https://time.com/6156582/ukraine-anti-russian-hate/
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Can't get past headline. But have read some stories of harassment. FFS Anglophones in Quebec put up with that schit all the time. Haven't read of any violence aimed at Russians though. That's a game-changer.
Also haven't heard of any police targeting them.
WhyTF you need to defend her is just weird.

Where are they buying 3 'largish homes' for £350k?

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Fwiw the way we treat our veterans is pretty appalling.
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I mean yes, of course it is. We don’t do much better with those still serving tbh from what I’ve heard first hand.

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Aw FFS. Have any of you seen this Russian Lives Matter thing on Twitter?
One of my favorite right wing lady grifters Candace Owens.
Maybe she's not serious though.
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Is she defending Putin’s actions or condemning the abuse that normal Russians are receiving for simply being Russian? 🤔
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Tell me which normal Russians have been abused? And where? I'm interested in knowing this.
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You don’t think any Russians have received abuse because of what Putin has done? Purely out of association?
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Not seen or heard about any non Putin associate getting abuse, no.
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I didn’t ask that. Do you doubt it is happening? You don’t think it’s likely? You don’t think there are sufficient stupid, uninformed bigoted people to abuse innocent people purely because they are Russian??

OK
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Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and those behind the “Russian lives matter” campaign given what we know about how Russia attempts to spread disinformation and how it appears the American right wingers are willing (unknowing or knowing) participants.
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Yeah www.time.com I mean, just come clean. Your real address is ww.russiandisinformation.kkk
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Oh, did the www.time.com article talk about the “Russian lives matter” movement? I admittedly speed-read it but I don’t recall seeing it referenced.
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“Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and“

I’m talking about the source of the reports of the abuse that Russians have faced. You know, what SoQ and Hector were whizzing me about?

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Aw FFS. Have any of you seen this Russian Lives Matter thing on Twitter?
One of my favorite right wing lady grifters Candace Owens.
Maybe she's not serious though.
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Is she defending Putin’s actions or condemning the abuse that normal Russians are receiving for simply being Russian? 🤔
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Tell me which normal Russians have been abused? And where? I'm interested in knowing this.
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You don’t think any Russians have received abuse because of what Putin has done? Purely out of association?
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Not seen or heard about any non Putin associate getting abuse, no.
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I didn’t ask that. Do you doubt it is happening? You don’t think it’s likely? You don’t think there are sufficient stupid, uninformed bigoted people to abuse innocent people purely because they are Russian??

OK
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Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and those behind the “Russian lives matter” campaign given what we know about how Russia attempts to spread disinformation and how it appears the American right wingers are willing (unknowing or knowing) participants.
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Yeah www.time.com I mean, just come clean. Your real address is ww.russiandisinformation.kkk
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Oh, did the www.time.com article talk about the “Russian lives matter” movement? I admittedly speed-read it but I don’t recall seeing it referenced.
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“Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and“

I’m talking about the source of the reports of the abuse that Russians have faced. You know, what SoQ and Hector were whizzing me about?
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Whizzing? Didn’t think that this was that kind of sight. Now I know what you mean by kissing wasn’t enough 😜

Crossed wires in that case, I was meaning sceptical of the origin of the “Russian lives matter” slogan and campaign amongst those on the American right wing.

I’ve no doubt there will have been and continue to be attacks and hostility against ordinary Russians, and I think that is wrong. Not quite as wrong as putins government invading Ukraine of course, but still wrong.

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Where are they buying 3 'largish homes' for £350k?
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Oh ffs - typical ja606 politics thread shoot me in the head nonsense right here.

Does it really matter? Can you not offer anything useful to the conversation? You know use your first class degree and put it to some use?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/120287849

Maybe just buy a transillion of these?

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Where are they buying 3 'largish homes' for £350k?
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And more importantly, where is “up north” defined as 😡

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Aw FFS. Have any of you seen this Russian Lives Matter thing on Twitter?
One of my favorite right wing lady grifters Candace Owens.
Maybe she's not serious though.
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Is she defending Putin’s actions or condemning the abuse that normal Russians are receiving for simply being Russian? 🤔
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Tell me which normal Russians have been abused? And where? I'm interested in knowing this.
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You don’t think any Russians have received abuse because of what Putin has done? Purely out of association?
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Not seen or heard about any non Putin associate getting abuse, no.
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I didn’t ask that. Do you doubt it is happening? You don’t think it’s likely? You don’t think there are sufficient stupid, uninformed bigoted people to abuse innocent people purely because they are Russian??

OK
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Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and those behind the “Russian lives matter” campaign given what we know about how Russia attempts to spread disinformation and how it appears the American right wingers are willing (unknowing or knowing) participants.
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Yeah www.time.com I mean, just come clean. Your real address is ww.russiandisinformation.kkk
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Oh, did the www.time.com article talk about the “Russian lives matter” movement? I admittedly speed-read it but I don’t recall seeing it referenced.
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“Obviously ordinary Russians shouldn’t be targeted, that would be xenophobic.

I am extremely sceptical of the source and“

I’m talking about the source of the reports of the abuse that Russians have faced. You know, what SoQ and Hector were whizzing me about?
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Whizzing? Didn’t think that this was that kind of sight. Now I know what you mean by kissing wasn’t enough 😜

Crossed wires in that case, I was meaning sceptical of the origin of the “Russian lives matter” slogan and campaign amongst those on the American right wing.

I’ve no doubt there will have been and continue to be attacks and hostility against ordinary Russians, and I think that is wrong. Not quite as wrong as putins government invading Ukraine of course, but still wrong.
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No idea where RLM came from and no particularly care

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https://time.com/6156582/ukraine-anti-russian-hate/
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Can't get past headline. But have read some stories of harassment. FFS Anglophones in Quebec put up with that schit all the time. Haven't read of any violence aimed at Russians though. That's a game-changer.
Also haven't heard of any police targeting them.
WhyTF you need to defend her is just weird.
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Why TF do you need to attack her, is just weird

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No idea where RLM came from and no particularly care
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You don’t care? Given what we’ve all discussed around disinformation and the role it appears to be playing in the narratives around this war, I would’ve thought the keen eyed and sceptical amongst us would be interested in it.

For soq:

ke Gazaryan’s wife, Yulia, typically answers the phone for their San Diego, Calif. restaurant, Pushkin Russian Restaurant, which serves food from former Soviet republics. But after Russia invaded Ukraine, Gazaryan decided to answer it himself. In the week after the war began, he says, the restaurant received about 15 to 20 abusive phone calls.

He didn’t pay much attention to the first few calls, which he attributed to kids messing around, but then some of the calls seemed to threaten violence. “We started getting more serious calls, with people yelling and screaming at us,” says Gazaryan, who is ethnically Armenian but has lived in Russia. “As if we have something to do with this war, blaming us for what the Putin regime is doing. We had people calling, saying, they’re going to blow sh-t up.” His wife Yulia has borne the brunt of these calls, Gazaryan says. “I had to take the phone, because I don’t want people screaming at her.”

Since the start of the Russian invasion, people around the world have expressed their solidarity with the Ukrainian people by giving to humanitarian charities, corporate boycotts, and in-person protests. However, others have directed their ire toward anything they deem to be associated with Russia, or its people. In some cases, these protests have seemed harmless, or even silly—for instance, the International European Tree of the Year contest eliminated Russian trees from consideration. Russian cultural exports have become another target, with cancellations of performances by the Russian State Ballet of Siberia, the Royal Moscow Ballet company and the Bolshoi Ballet in the U.K. In other cases, the rhetoric has been more clearly discriminatory, such as member of Congress Eric Swalwell arguing for “kicking every Russian student out of the United States” and British lawmaker Roger Gale arguing that all Russians living in the country should be “sent home.”

Some attacks on Russians and others perceived to be Russian, have been criminal. A Russian Orthodox Church in Calgary, Canada was splattered with red paint on Feb. 26. In Washington, D.C., vandals smashed windows, broke a door, and left behind “bias-related” signs at the Russia House Restaurant and Lounge. And in Dublin, a truck crashed through the gate of the Russian embassy.

The attacks appear to indiscriminately target those from the Russian-speaking diaspora. German broadcaster DW reported that the Russian owner of a Russian language school said her colleagues and students had received abuse and harassment, adding that a local museum initially canceled a performance by her students “for political reasons.” In Vancouver, a Russian community center was splattered with blue and yellow paint, the colors of the Ukrainian flag. And in Columbus, Ohio, Diana Deli—which is owned by both a Russian and a Ukrainian–has reported receiving threatening phone calls.

Some victims of abuse fled political persecution in Russia and former Soviet Republics themselves. Others are not Russian at all, but immigrated from other parts of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, including Ukraine.

Gazaryan fled persecution in Azerbaijan as a child, first settling in Uzbekistan, and later Russia, before finally making the U.S. his home. His wife is from Russia and is a member of the Yakut ethnic minority, a Turkic people who historically faced discrimination in the country. Gazaryan says that his business has donated money to Ukrainian charities and provided money to their Ukrainian staff members to send to their families back home. He strongly empathizes with the Ukrainians, in part because he can relate to their suffering. “My family knows what war is firsthand, and what it’s like to leave everything and run,” says Gazaryan. “We kept running, basically, until we moved to the United States 24 years ago.”

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No idea where RLM came from and no particularly care
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You don’t care? Given what we’ve all discussed around disinformation and the role it appears to be playing in the narratives around this war, I would’ve thought the keen eyed and sceptical amongst us would be interested in it.
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Is it more than just a slogan?

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SoQ you will notice Calgary mentioned in that article
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Do you know his far I live from Calgary?
You are closer to Montreal than Calgary is.
And Alberta and Saskatchewan are where most Ukrainians have settled for over a century.
Did you know Ukrainians were put in concentration camps during WW2 here? I haven't seen any Western governments proposing that nowadays. And a church getting daubed with paint? FFS people are being killed in Ukraine.

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Where are they buying 3 'largish homes' for £350k?
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Oh ffs - typical ja606 politics thread shoot me in the head nonsense right here.

Does it really matter? Can you not offer anything useful to the conversation? You know use your first class degree and put it to some use?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/120287849

Maybe just buy a transillion of these?
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So they should buy auction properties which will probably require loads of work?

What about the planning permissions that will be needed to turn them into HMOs or business properties?

Copied from the time article btw 👆

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Copied from the time article btw 👆
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Yes I know how much it irks you when I don’t provide the link

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SoQ you will notice Calgary mentioned in that article
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Do you know his far I live from Calgary?
You are closer to Montreal than Calgary is.
And Alberta and Saskatchewan are where most Ukrainians have settled for over a century.
Did you know Ukrainians were put in concentration camps during WW2 here? I haven't seen any Western governments proposing that nowadays. And a church getting daubed with paint? FFS people are being killed in Ukraine.

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What does any of that matter? I pointed out Calgary as you live in Canada?

Yes people are dying in Ukraine and yes buildings being painted is nowhere near as bad. What is your point exactly?

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No idea where RLM came from and no particularly care
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You don’t care? Given what we’ve all discussed around disinformation and the role it appears to be playing in the narratives around this war, I would’ve thought the keen eyed and sceptical amongst us would be interested in it.
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Is it more than just a slogan?
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Quite plausibly. Was BLM? Was the “all lives matter” brigade? You’re a bright guy; some healthy scepticism when the American right wing (which as far as I can tell you’re not a part of or particularly support) is coming out with what they have since before the invasion (and continue to do so in Tucker’s case especially) would be positive. It may be that Shapiro, Owens, Carlson are all acting in a purely altruistic and apolitical way, but I would ask in that case; where has that been all this time?

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Where are they buying 3 'largish homes' for £350k?
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Oh ffs - typical ja606 politics thread shoot me in the head nonsense right here.

Does it really matter? Can you not offer anything useful to the conversation? You know use your first class degree and put it to some use?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/120287849

Maybe just buy a transillion of these?
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So they should buy auction properties which will probably require loads of work?

What about the planning permissions that will be needed to turn them into HMOs or business properties?
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Prejudiced against auction properties. Disgusting

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Copied from the time article btw 👆
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Yes I know how much it irks you when I don’t provide the link
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I’m just clarifying for those who may have already read the article so they don’t waste time re-reading (as I began to).

You doing ok today?