comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour ago
Comparing the media coverage of the RM strikes today..

Sky news allowed a corporate broadcast from the CEO with absoloutley no critical questioning! Just allowing him to spout his lies.

The GB news interview with Dave Ward was really good and positive coverage of the strikes, spoke about the idea of "strike fatigue" but still lamented what's being done to the postal service.
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I've noticed that members of the Shadow Cabinet are now regularly appearing on GB News, I think their coverage of the Labour conference heralded a thawing in the parties view of the channel.

Unlike many of the regulars on here they seem to have accepted that being anti woke doesn't make it a right wing echo chamber.
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What's anti woke? Seems to me it's just a slogan for bigots to carry on being bigots.

Is anti-woke the only aim of GB News?

🤔

Is it fack

I'd like to hear Pawlie's definition of "woke".

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/25/soldier-david-jonathan-holden-aidan-mcanespie-troubles-convicted-manslaughter

34 years to get some form of justice for the murder of an innocent man whilst the likes of Johnny Mercer MP thinks it's a "national shame" that servicemen are held to account for actions they commit in uniform.
There is no statute of limitations for murder in civilian life yet the military think their illegal actions should be time barred.

Don't get me wrong, in this instance the murderer was only an 18 year old boy himself at the time and I have some sympathy in that he should never have been put in the position of holding a machine gun but he was an he did discharge his weapon, he has now deservedly been held to account.
The Conservative party are in the process of enacting legislation which in effect means they want to cover up these crimes.
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Peculiarly the Tories have united every single party here, who have in unison condemned the Troubles Legacy Bill.

Which is also believed to be unlawful. Hardly a new concept for this government..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62738736.amp

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think ... (U3126)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 13 minutes ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/25/soldier-david-jonathan-holden-aidan-mcanespie-troubles-convicted-manslaughter

34 years to get some form of justice for the murder of an innocent man whilst the likes of Johnny Mercer MP thinks it's a "national shame" that servicemen are held to account for actions they commit in uniform.
There is no statute of limitations for murder in civilian life yet the military think their illegal actions should be time barred.

Don't get me wrong, in this instance the murderer was only an 18 year old boy himself at the time and I have some sympathy in that he should never have been put in the position of holding a machine gun but he was an he did discharge his weapon, he has now deservedly been held to account.
The Conservative party are in the process of enacting legislation which in effect means they want to cover up these crimes.
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Peculiarly the Tories have united every single party here, who have in unison condemned the Troubles Legacy Bill.

Which is also believed to be unlawful. Hardly a new concept for this government..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62738736.amp
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: "In this case the baseline of trust is so low that it is difficult to see how the mechanisms in the bill will come to garner more confidence during its implementation."

Therein lies the entire problem. The legacy of the 'troubles' is fraught enough, but when the government that's bringing in this legislation is completely untrustworthy, it is impossible to conclude it is anything other than a stunt.
I've long believed that a truth and reconciliation process should have been included in the whole process, amnesty given to all that come forward and publically state their roles in those terrible years and those that don't come forward face the full might of the law.
Probably too late for such a body now.

There are lots of things that make me laugh about this thread but the pro Mick Lynch comments are brilliant.

Day after day all you read on here is what a bunch of racist t0ssers Brexit voters are and how they've ruined the country yet Lynch is forgiven because he stacks up with the government.

It's up there with Starmer levels of hypocrisy.

You're unable to distinguish the difference between Brexit and a union fight with the railway bosses? Must be bliss being so binary.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 18 seconds ago
You're unable to distinguish the difference between Brexit and a union fight with the railway bosses? Must be bliss being so binary.
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You're playing it down Hector, the general stuff on here about anybody and I mean anybody who voted to leave the EU is that they are the skum of the earth and Mick Lynch is one of those people.

Mate not even Arab would say that, don't claim misrepresentation and then misrepresent yourself

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 54 seconds ago
Mate not even Arab would say that, don't claim misrepresentation and then misrepresent yourself
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Haha, oh yes he would.

Mick Lynch is a fantastic orator and a very calm but firm debater, I can see why he's the union head. He also seems like a good bloke

His opinions on brexit and the war in Ukraine are so far removed from reality that they're scary however and despite all his positive TV appearances he is yet to deliver anything but strikes

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 18 seconds ago
You're unable to distinguish the difference between Brexit and a union fight with the railway bosses? Must be bliss being so binary.
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You're playing it down Hector, the general stuff on here about anybody and I mean anybody who voted to leave the EU is that they are the skum of the earth and Mick Lynch is one of those people.
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And? What's that got to do with him fighting for better pay and conditions for those that voted for him?
You're coming over as pretty pathetic tbh.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 18 seconds ago
You're unable to distinguish the difference between Brexit and a union fight with the railway bosses? Must be bliss being so binary.
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You're playing it down Hector, the general stuff on here about anybody and I mean anybody who voted to leave the EU is that they are the skum of the earth and Mick Lynch is one of those people.
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And? What's that got to do with him fighting for better pay and conditions for those that voted for him?
You're coming over as pretty pathetic tbh.
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At the risk of sounding even more pathetic next time there's a debate on here about something that the regulars feel has been adversely effected by Brexit have a look at how leave voters are categorised.

During such debates there's no caveat that union leaders are exempt infact Eddie Denpsey has been savaged on here for his pro Brexit stance.

What are you failing to understand?

Brexit was a national act of self harm, predominantly but not exclusively voted for by nativist haters of immigrants The RMT are striking for better pay and conditions. One has absolutely f-all do do with the other.
You be you though.

Eddie Dempsey has been savaged for doing a tour of Donbas and photo ops with russian "separatists"

Well that's it then, my support for those thousands of RMT members who are giving up a day's pay every time they go out on strike in their fight for better pay and conditions has evaporated because the two guys arguing for them against the bosses have opinions I disagree with...

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 47 minutes ago
Well that's it then, my support for those thousands of RMT members who are giving up a day's pay every time they go out on strike in their fight for better pay and conditions has evaporated because the two guys arguing for them against the bosses have opinions I disagree with...
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It's a very odd argument from Pawl, opinions on each subject stand on their own merit.

I agree with their strikes, I agree with the strikes generally, we need to break the culture in this country that's penalising workers and destroying their ability to have healthy and happy lives, doesn't mean I support idiotic Brexit views, and idiotic Brexit views don't mean i discount their part in the battle for the working class.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by Prof Rosso Curtice - mapping SOTY polling trends in real time (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
Grinchy

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1595775877639737345
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That'll upset Pawl.
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Told you.

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 54 seconds ago
Mate not even Arab would say that, don't claim misrepresentation and then misrepresent yourself
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Haha, oh yes he would.
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I think you’re a scuuumbag and a piece of shiiit tbh

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about 6 hours ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 47 minutes ago
Well that's it then, my support for those thousands of RMT members who are giving up a day's pay every time they go out on strike in their fight for better pay and conditions has evaporated because the two guys arguing for them against the bosses have opinions I disagree with...
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It's a very odd argument from Pawl, opinions on each subject stand on their own merit.

I agree with their strikes, I agree with the strikes generally, we need to break the culture in this country that's penalising workers and destroying their ability to have healthy and happy lives, doesn't mean I support idiotic Brexit views, and idiotic Brexit views don't mean i discount their part in the battle for the working class.
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comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted about 4 hours ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 54 seconds ago
Mate not even Arab would say that, don't claim misrepresentation and then misrepresent yourself
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Haha, oh yes he would.
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I think you’re a scuuumbag and a piece of shiiit tbh
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OBSERVER: Blow to Brexit as ‘landmark’ new deal sees trade slump

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1596617193336311814?s=46&t=MyN6md6VS7RNLckVf8WfIQ

BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN

That cannot be right, freeeedom from the faceless bureaucratic dictators on Brussels meant we'd be able to majorly cash in on dealing with the rest of the world, it wasn't meant to reduct us.

Matt Hancock in the final 3 of i’m a celebrity Lol wtf

Big up the Chinese, nice to see them finally standing up and fighting back and protesting against the CCP mugs and their dumb covid rules