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posted on 9/3/23

comment by Ten Hag Bald is Best Ball at its Facking Finest (U17054)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 27 minutes ago
https://news.sky.com/story/windfall-tax-has-all-but-wiped-out-our-profit-for-the-year-biggest-north-sea-oil-producer-says-12829230

"But shareholder distributions of $553m were made during the year and it proposed a $100m final dividend which marked a 9% increase in awards during the year."

canta
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“UK-focused Harbour had warned in January that it was to make head office workers in Aberdeen redundant in direct reaction to the hike in the levy, announced by Chancellor Jeremy Hunt in November last year.”

Sacking staff at HQ left, right and centre in attempts to “cut costs by $40m this year”. Meanwhile, pays out $553m in the previous year to shareholders.

Just facking sickening.

We aren’t talking about extreme, outlying behaviour by one rogue unethical multibillion dollar business in one particular domain here.

This is EXACTLY the kind of behaviour that the system is designed to promote and then rewards, across industries.

It’s indefensible, and it has to be stopped.
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Who would have guessed big oil don't have the country's (or planet's) best interests at heart

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by 7-0bbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 9 minutes ago
The holocaust absolutely did not start in 1933 ffs
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Dachau Concentration camp opened March 22 1933. Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals and emigrants were sent to Dachau after the 1935 passage of the Nuremberg Laws which institutionalised racial discrimination


I think you’ll find that it absolutely did.
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The pedantic way yesterday that certain posters on here tried to exonerate Lineker by claiming the Holocaust started in the 40's was an embarrassment and totally missed the point that this country is nothing like 30's Germany . Those who work for the supposedly neutral tax payer funded BBC should go and work for a commercial station if they want to make political points.

posted on 9/3/23

You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech

posted on 9/3/23

Mystic Meg has died.

Nobody saw that coming

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted less than a minute ago
Mystic Meg has died.

Nobody saw that coming
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Literally just made that gag to my missus!

posted on 9/3/23

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 15 seconds ago
You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech


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Alan Sugars a cant and his extreme hypocrisy as to what's alright one week and not the next on the Apprentice is laughable.

Anybody else?

posted on 9/3/23

Pawl, that is a perfect demonstration of a non-sequitur. The, as you rightly say, pedantic argument about when concentration camps opened is not the sole defining feature of "1930's Germany". Everyone should be concerned about some of the rhetoric coming from members of our government. Gary Lineker really is not really the issue here.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 9/3/23

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by 7-0bbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 9 minutes ago
The holocaust absolutely did not start in 1933 ffs
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Dachau Concentration camp opened March 22 1933. Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals and emigrants were sent to Dachau after the 1935 passage of the Nuremberg Laws which institutionalised racial discrimination


I think you’ll find that it absolutely did.
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The pedantic way yesterday that certain posters on here tried to exonerate Lineker by claiming the Holocaust started in the 40's was an embarrassment and totally missed the point that this country is nothing like 30's Germany . Those who work for the supposedly neutral tax payer funded BBC should go and work for a commercial station if they want to make political points.
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He didn't compare iit to the holocaust though did he, he said 1930s Germany, it's just you, Mr perma-offended that claimed it was the holocaust.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 9/3/23

If the BBC have a problem with free speech they should review his contract.

Not a peep out of the outraged about Bravermans, the tax payer salaried Home Sec and her language. Clowns!

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
If the BBC have a problem with free speech they should review his contract.

Not a peep out of the outraged about Bravermans, the tax payer salaried Home Sec and her language. Clowns!
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I think you'll find politicians (unlike BBC sports presenters) are expected to have an obvious political position on government policies.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 15 seconds ago
You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech


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Alan Sugars a cant and his extreme hypocrisy as to what's alright one week and not the next on the Apprentice is laughable.

Anybody else?
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Richard Sharp and Robbie Gibb are two of the key decision makers at the BBC

Ones a Tory donor and the other is the brother of a Tory MP and former Tory employee

Thoughts?

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 9/3/23

aw don't diss ma wee Suella!

Mug!

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by 7-0bbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 9 minutes ago
The holocaust absolutely did not start in 1933 ffs
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Dachau Concentration camp opened March 22 1933. Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals and emigrants were sent to Dachau after the 1935 passage of the Nuremberg Laws which institutionalised racial discrimination


I think you’ll find that it absolutely did.
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There's a lot of different takes.

Given that holocaust for most throws up images of Jewish death camps that came a lot later, after segregating immigrants as you have pointed out and dehumanising/blaming certain sections of society for all the country's ills (mainly actually as a result of heavily punitive reactions from European nations to the first world war) for close to a decade.

Remember that concentration camps were just that, places to concentrate these lesser members of society, and the death camps were something very different.

Hitler didn't come to power and immediately start executing people. Comparing a Tory government that dehumanises immigrants, locks them up in old unused condemned army bases, tries to set up an island for them to be kept on, then tries to force them off to Rwanda all the whole talking about invasions, or the rhetoric during Brexit about "plagues" is all the same sort of dehumanising and segregating cruelty that the Natzis worked their way through.

No one is suggesting Suella is going to start gassing people who arrive on small boats, but her rhetoric and cruelty might just embolden those who DO share those views.

Ignore history and you are doomed to repeat it. People are right to point out the warning signs and alarm bells.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 15 seconds ago
You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech


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Alan Sugars a cant and his extreme hypocrisy as to what's alright one week and not the next on the Apprentice is laughable.

Anybody else?
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Richard Sharp and Robbie Gibb are two of the key decision makers at the BBC

Ones a Tory donor and the other is the brother of a Tory MP and former Tory employee

Thoughts?
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Anybody connected to the supposedly neutral BBC shouldn't be donating money to any political party.

I think I'm pretty consistent on this and once again no amount of deflection will get away from the fact (as many in the Jewish press have said) Lineker should stay out of stuff he doesn't understand.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Harambe (U22339)
posted about 12 hours ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 10 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention (Scotland):

SNP: 39% (-2)
LAB: 29% (-2)
CON: 22% (+6)
LDM: 6% (-2)
GRN: 2% (=)
REF: 2% (=)

Via @RedfieldWilton, On 2-5 March,
Changes w/ 26-27 November 2022.
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+6?!

Was it National shoot up week up there?
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Only thing I can think of is the SNP infighting during the leadership election
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What the London media tend to miss is that the Unionist vote tends to move between Labour and the Tories.

I would suspect that much of the movement for the Tories has come from Labour/Lib Dems, whereas Labour have possibly gained votes from the SNP, but not much.

As much as Labour hope to gain votes from the shambles that is the SNP leadership contest, and they might, it won't be anywhere near where they hope simply because many independence voters will find it very difficult to vote for them, myself included.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 15 seconds ago
You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Alan Sugars a cant and his extreme hypocrisy as to what's alright one week and not the next on the Apprentice is laughable.

Anybody else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Sharp and Robbie Gibb are two of the key decision makers at the BBC

Ones a Tory donor and the other is the brother of a Tory MP and former Tory employee

Thoughts?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anybody connected to the supposedly neutral BBC shouldn't be donating money to any political party.

I think I'm pretty consistent on this and once again no amount of deflection will get away from the fact (as many in the Jewish press have said) Lineker should stay out of stuff he doesn't understand.
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Fair enough, I agree

His comment was clumsy at best

posted on 9/3/23

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Harambe (U22339)
posted about 12 hours ago
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 10 minutes ago
Westminster Voting Intention (Scotland):

SNP: 39% (-2)
LAB: 29% (-2)
CON: 22% (+6)
LDM: 6% (-2)
GRN: 2% (=)
REF: 2% (=)

Via @RedfieldWilton, On 2-5 March,
Changes w/ 26-27 November 2022.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

+6?!

Was it National shoot up week up there?
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Only thing I can think of is the SNP infighting during the leadership election
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What the London media tend to miss is that the Unionist vote tends to move between Labour and the Tories.

I would suspect that much of the movement for the Tories has come from Labour/Lib Dems, whereas Labour have possibly gained votes from the SNP, but not much.

As much as Labour hope to gain votes from the shambles that is the SNP leadership contest, and they might, it won't be anywhere near where they hope simply because many independence voters will find it very difficult to vote for them, myself included.
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This is where the SNP are very lucky as they can bollox things up as much as they want and still expect to poll well.

If those who want Indyref2 don't vote for them it's the Greens or Alba.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the BBC have a problem with free speech they should review his contract.

Not a peep out of the outraged about Bravermans, the tax payer salaried Home Sec and her language. Clowns!
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He was given free reign by the BBC to give a lengthy monologue condemning human rights abuse etc in Qatar. Live on air during the BBC's opening World Cup broadcast. ie representing the BBC.

Don't recall much from the Telegragh, Express, or The Sun over that. But critique the type of language used by the government. Send him to the gallows!!

Rather than focusing on the policy last night, the BBC 6pm news main headline was on his feking tweet..!

posted on 9/3/23

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 15 seconds ago
You have never said anything about Alan Sugars political comments nor did Lineker face much backlash when he told Labour to bin it's old leader

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/854673387565834243?t=CnJf4ZRbGeEcc_rfdL_6Ug&s=19

Selective outrage and a poor approach to freedom of speech


----------------------------------------------------------------------
Alan Sugars a cant and his extreme hypocrisy as to what's alright one week and not the next on the Apprentice is laughable.

Anybody else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard Sharp and Robbie Gibb are two of the key decision makers at the BBC

Ones a Tory donor and the other is the brother of a Tory MP and former Tory employee

Thoughts?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Anybody connected to the supposedly neutral BBC shouldn't be donating money to any political party.

I think I'm pretty consistent on this and once again no amount of deflection will get away from the fact (as many in the Jewish press have said) Lineker should stay out of stuff he doesn't understand.
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Fair enough, I agree

His comment was clumsy at best


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Cheers Crouchy I like it on the rare occasions that we agree.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 7-0bbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 9 minutes ago
The holocaust absolutely did not start in 1933 ffs
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Dachau Concentration camp opened March 22 1933. Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals and emigrants were sent to Dachau after the 1935 passage of the Nuremberg Laws which institutionalised racial discrimination


I think you’ll find that it absolutely did.
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What you could reasonably argue is that the beginnings of the Holocaust can be traced back to when the nahtzis came to power. In terms of the specific extermination of the Jewish people by the nahtzis, that would be early 40s. Someone above mentioned the night of broken glass (so I don’t butcher the spelling) as the commencement of the physical mistreatment of Jewish people.

Wiki, for what it’s worth, noted that Dachau was originally built as an internment camp for Hitlers political opponents, as opposed to Jewish people.
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The Holocaust wasn’t just against Jewish people.
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It wasn’t. But what is being attempted here (by certain conservative politicians) is to equate anti-Semitic or anti-immigrant rhetoric of the early 1930s with the systemic destruction of the Jewish people by those who don’t like facing into what lineker said.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 9/3/23

"But an activist blob of left-wing lawyers, civil servants and the Labour Party blocked us."

Oh dear, Suella losing the plot because she's rubbish at her job.

Incendiary language from the darling of the Conservative party.

posted on 9/3/23

HS2 gonna be delayed again ffs ... country is a joke.

posted on 9/3/23

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 16 minutes ago
If the BBC have a problem with free speech they should review his contract.

Not a peep out of the outraged about Bravermans, the tax payer salaried Home Sec and her language. Clowns!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He was given free reign by the BBC to give a lengthy monologue condemning human rights abuse etc in Qatar. Live on air during the BBC's opening World Cup broadcast. ie representing the BBC.

Don't recall much from the Telegragh, Express, or The Sun over that. But critique the type of language used by the government. Send him to the gallows!!

Rather than focusing on the policy last night, the BBC 6pm news main headline was on his feking tweet..!
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Yep, it's clear that you can say what you want, unopposed, on the actual BBC, when it involves anyone else...but heaven forbid you TWEET something, opposing the gov..all hell breaks loose, it's actually ridiculous.

posted on 9/3/23

Andrew Neill regularly tweeted right wing opinioms when he worked for the BBC. No one ever said anything.

It's also interesting that given this is about impartiality, the decision could be made by the same person that helped to grease through an 800 grand loan for Boris Johnson.

posted on 9/3/23

Its BS imo, the NEWS and its readers, (even though it isnt) has to at least appear impartial, the rest can have opinions of things, i dont' get why everyone thinks if you work for the bbc, you should have no opinion.

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