comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
Thinking long term I hope they do ban exports and seize factories. We will be fine as we are self sufficient is vaccines. It may delay our completion by a few weeks, but the main hurdle in massively reducing deaths will be completed this week anyway (all over 50s getting their first jab). Long term this will send the message that the EU is not open to free and fair business and companies will not want to go there are be based there. I don't think the EU realise just how little a ban would affect us. The good thing is Ursula is such an amateur tactician I can actually see this realistically happen, so go on Ursula, we have been a very bad independent country, punish us
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Imagine thinking this country can go up ahead a union of 27 countries with a combined GDP of $18 trillion. We are a third country, everything that is happening to this country is down to us as we wrote the rules for being a third country.

The UK isn’t gonna shaaag you mate.
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 7 minutes ago
Fack it, let’s invade Spain.
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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted less than a minute ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-woman-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-haemorrhage-b1818475.html

Oh God, this isn’t gonna help.
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A danish woman also died after taking the jab, there’s absolutely nothing linking the death to AstraZeneca though.

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Just read Canada are in a joint project with Germany to exploit hydrogen technology. Good to see international cooperation especially in green technology.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
Thinking long term I hope they do ban exports and seize factories. We will be fine as we are self sufficient is vaccines. It may delay our completion by a few weeks, but the main hurdle in massively reducing deaths will be completed this week anyway (all over 50s getting their first jab). Long term this will send the message that the EU is not open to free and fair business and companies will not want to go there are be based there. I don't think the EU realise just how little a ban would affect us. The good thing is Ursula is such an amateur tactician I can actually see this realistically happen, so go on Ursula, we have been a very bad independent country, punish us
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Imagine thinking this country can go up ahead a union of 27 countries with a combined GDP of $18 trillion. We are a third country, everything that is happening to this country is down to us as we wrote the rules for being a third country.

The UK isn’t gonna shaaag you mate.
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I know what you remainers are trying to imply with "third country", but the USA, Russia, China, India, Brazil etc are "third countries" too.
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And don’t share a border with a European Union member.

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comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted less than a minute ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-woman-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-haemorrhage-b1818475.html

Oh God, this isn’t gonna help.
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A danish woman also died after taking the jab, there’s absolutely nothing linking the death to AstraZeneca though.
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I mean the reporting of it, I’m due mine on Sunday and I’m already thinking about blood clots and now brain haemorrhages

There appears to be somewhat of a revelling in calling us a "third world country".

5th largest economy in the world

Hope we really start to motor on bypassing the EU bloc wherever we can and start trading elsewhere is growing economies around the world. It's pretty much reached its zenith in any event and like the SNP is gradually losing its influence and control, if not its ego. Much the same as the SNP I suppose.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/shaun-bailey-tory-candidate-mayor-london-funding-b1818306.html

Tories have stopped funding Shaun Baileys campaign.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted about a minute ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 25 seconds ago
Thinking long term I hope they do ban exports and seize factories. We will be fine as we are self sufficient is vaccines. It may delay our completion by a few weeks, but the main hurdle in massively reducing deaths will be completed this week anyway (all over 50s getting their first jab). Long term this will send the message that the EU is not open to free and fair business and companies will not want to go there are be based there. I don't think the EU realise just how little a ban would affect us. The good thing is Ursula is such an amateur tactician I can actually see this realistically happen, so go on Ursula, we have been a very bad independent country, punish us
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Looking beyond the vaccines, the dynamic changes considerably. The EU is capable of wrecking havoc on UK economy. Total mess.
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No reason to block exports of anything beyond vaccines though? If they started doing that for no reason then my point would be amplified a million percent. No sane business would ever want to go there ever again.
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There are dispute settlement mechanisms in the TCA the EU can rely on to curb market access. As well is tarriffs on UK imports.

I would like to think things would never get that bad but as many sectors here are overly reliant on exporting to the EU, it it did come to that, it would be extremely damaging to the UK economy/jobs etc.

The problem is Frost honestly seems to believe the UK is on same level as the EU (insofar as influence/economic clout) which should have everyone a bit worried.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-woman-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-haemorrhage-b1818475.html

Oh God, this isn’t gonna help.
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Haemorrage? WTF? Cunning little virus. Tricks you into thinking its a coagulent, then BANG haha its a blood thinner.

ursala is a criminal

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comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-woman-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-haemorrhage-b1818475.html

Oh God, this isn’t gonna help.
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Haemorrage? WTF? Cunning little virus. Tricks you into thinking its a coagulent, then BANG haha its a blood thinner.
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I think it does both, all the blood below your neck turns into jelly but everything above seeps out through your eyes and ears. A quick lie-down and they'll be OK

You have to wonder how such a marvellous concept as the EU allows someone like Von Leyden to take up such a senior position despite a record of abject failure, continue to worsen in performance and then have herself beamed across the Western world coming out with pathetic political threats time after time to try and deflect from her own, her employers and their member states abject performances over something so critical.

Incredible really.

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comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
You have to wonder how such a marvellous concept as the EU allows someone like Von Leyden to take up such a senior position despite a record of abject failure, continue to worsen in performance and then have herself beamed across the Western world coming out with pathetic political threats time after time to try and deflect from her own, her employers and their member states abject performances over something so critical.

Incredible really.
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I bet the EU citizens that voted for her are regretting their vote...
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They're all sheep. They like to be controlled.

Every single one of them

comment by renoog (U4449)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-woman-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-haemorrhage-b1818475.html

Oh God, this isn’t gonna help.
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Haemorrage? WTF? Cunning little virus. Tricks you into thinking its a coagulent, then BANG haha its a blood thinner.
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I think it does both, all the blood below your neck turns into jelly but everything above seeps out through your eyes and ears. A quick lie-down and they'll be OK
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And a nice cuppa.

comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted about a minute ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
Thinking long term I hope they do ban exports and seize factories. We will be fine as we are self sufficient is vaccines. It may delay our completion by a few weeks, but the main hurdle in massively reducing deaths will be completed this week anyway (all over 50s getting their first jab). Long term this will send the message that the EU is not open to free and fair business and companies will not want to go there are be based there. I don't think the EU realise just how little a ban would affect us. The good thing is Ursula is such an amateur tactician I can actually see this realistically happen, so go on Ursula, we have been a very bad independent country, punish us
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Imagine thinking this country can go up ahead a union of 27 countries with a combined GDP of $18 trillion. We are a third country, everything that is happening to this country is down to us as we wrote the rules for being a third country.

The UK isn’t gonna shaaag you mate.
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I know what you remainers are trying to imply with "third country", but the USA, Russia, China, India, Brazil etc are "third countries" too.
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And don’t share a border with a European Union member.
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Indeed, almost as if this complicated matter needs patience and a soft application of rules as negotiated. Not going insane the second a partner puts a toe out of line.
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The problems are of the UK's own making. They chose to leave the EU institutions which delivered frictionless trade, thus setting up trade barriers.

And rather than agree to regulatory alignment (to help mitigate non-tarrif barriers) it chose not to. Hence why consignments of meat etc have been sitting at ports for days while they await a vet to sign off on the health declaration. And why it is no longer possible for countless UK fishermen to get their produce to EU markets.

A soft implementation of divergence was proposed by the EU but the UK wanted out, as swiftly as possible. And would 'manage' whatever issues transpired as they happened. Not exactly the most competent policy choice IMO given 40 odd years of interconnection and interdependence.

But that's where we are.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
You have to wonder how such a marvellous concept as the EU allows someone like Von Leyden to take up such a senior position despite a record of abject failure, continue to worsen in performance and then have herself beamed across the Western world coming out with pathetic political threats time after time to try and deflect from her own, her employers and their member states abject performances over something so critical.

Incredible really.
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I give you the Prime Minister of Great Britian.

Not that UVL is in anyway competent.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
You have to wonder how such a marvellous concept as the EU allows someone like Von Leyden to take up such a senior position despite a record of abject failure, continue to worsen in performance and then have herself beamed across the Western world coming out with pathetic political threats time after time to try and deflect from her own, her employers and their member states abject performances over something so critical.

Incredible really.
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I give you the Prime Minister of Great Britian.

Not that UVL is in anyway competent.
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Hmmm

I think she outdoes him at every turn and BJ is "only" responsible for the UK. She is the spokesperson for 27 countries.

In any event, I'm glad we are finally beginning to go against the EU and the useless aspects of the deal, regardless of who signed it.

And just to be pedantic they are still considering whether or not to ratify it anyway. I hope they don't.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
You have to wonder how such a marvellous concept as the EU allows someone like Von Leyden to take up such a senior position despite a record of abject failure, continue to worsen in performance and then have herself beamed across the Western world coming out with pathetic political threats time after time to try and deflect from her own, her employers and their member states abject performances over something so critical.

Incredible really.
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I give you the Prime Minister of Great Britian.


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Well exactly.

Ginger

Like it or not the UK economy of the last 40yrs has been grown and developed with interdependence, and in many areas complete reliance on trade with Europe.

Pushing back against trade gravity serves no purpose. Other than self harm. And whilst the Gov looks to move into markets elsewhere it will take time, to bed in. However just because areas across the globe are growing quicker it does not follow they will generate more jobs or investment into the UK than we did as a member state.

The current continuation agreements will take many years to renegotiate and in some instances we may get comparable market access as the EU. In the main we won't as the UK cannot and will never be able to offer partners what the EU can. As the UK is one, and the EU is 27, with a considerably bigger market than us.

Ironically the areas the UK specialise in, such as services and financial services very rarely came under the EU's common commercial policy (ie we were pretty much free to do what we wanted anyway) are areas the Dept of Trade are promoting as areas for investment.

However instead of being able to offer a market of circa 500m odd consumers it is now a market of around 65m which will be reflected in whatever terms are agreed.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficio... (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ginger

Like it or not the UK economy of the last 40yrs has been grown and developed with interdependence, and in many areas complete reliance on trade with Europe.

Pushing back against trade gravity serves no purpose. Other than self harm. And whilst the Gov looks to move into markets elsewhere it will take time, to bed in. However just because areas across the globe are growing quicker it does not follow they will generate more jobs or investment into the UK than we did as a member state.

The current continuation agreements will take many years to renegotiate and in some instances we may get comparable market access as the EU. In the main we won't as the UK cannot and will never be able to offer partners what the EU can. As the UK is one, and the EU is 27, with a considerably bigger market than us.

Ironically the areas the UK specialise in, such as services and financial services very rarely came under the EU's common commercial policy (ie we were pretty much free to do what we wanted anyway) are areas the Dept of Trade are promoting as areas for investment.

However instead of being able to offer a market of circa 500m odd consumers it is now a market of around 65m which will be reflected in whatever terms are agreed.
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I enjoy it

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