comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 27 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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It would surprise me if it was Hamas, as even the Israelis aren't saying it was them.
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 13 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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In that case isn't it far more likely that the attacks by Hamas were false flags to give Israel an excuse to do what their right wing government had already stated they want to do? I wouldn’t put it past Israel to kill its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the world and therefore support for their plans, no?
Either that or Hamas are very stoopid, but how can they be so organized and escape Israel's wrath and mossad for so long, and still be so stoopid as to launch this hapless attack that was guaranteed to achieve absolutely fack all but retaliation from Israel?
Now that the hospital has been hit, you are finally thinking like this. But when the Hamas attacks happened you accused anyone that alluded to it being a false flag of sympathizing with Hamas.
You're pathetic basically in how you just shift everything to fit your view.
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comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 33 seconds ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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Embarrassing post as usual. What a clown.
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comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 33 seconds ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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Embarrassing post as usual. What a clown.
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Sounds an awful lot like you're implying the Hamas attack on Oct 7th was a false flag K7
This place is getting worse than twitter . Here's what I know
Israel has bombed hospitals before
Hamas do not have the kind of munitions capable of leveling a hospital or causing hundreds of casualties with one strike
Video and photo footage released by Israel shows no crater (this is verified by Bellingcat who have a record for independent fact finding) which the IDF in usual Mr Big Bawls fashion say it couldn't have been their bombs because their bombs make big craters on account of them being really strong
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posted 20 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 17 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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Hamas have planes?
There's actual videos of it being bombed ffs.
You are a nodding donkey claiming it's propaganda ffs.
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Is there, where can I see this footage.
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390254935851272?t=IdQjX25Kb1AyyEiDyTyAVg&s=19
Here's a good thread that looks into the footage so far and manages to refute claims by both sides... It doesn't give a conclusion though
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 seconds ago
Sounds an awful lot like you're implying the Hamas attack on Oct 7th was a false flag K7
This place is getting worse than twitter. Here's what I know
Israel has bombed hospitals before
Hamas do not have the kind of munitions capable of leveling a hospital or causing hundreds of casualties with one strike
Video and photo footage released by Israel shows no crater (this is verified by Bellingcat who have a record for independent fact finding) which the IDF in usual Mr Big Bawls fashion say it couldn't have been their bombs because their bombs make big craters on account of them being really strong
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You can't escape the false flag argument. It has been introduced now by none other than Israel themselves as they try to paint this hospital attack as a Hamas false flag. So that horse has already bolted thanks to Israel.
And you have to wonder how they can make this argument and at the same time attack anyone who reverses it on them, and label people as conspiracy theorists or plain insane. Especially when we know for a fact that Israel and USA have planned false flag attacks in the past. How can it not be in the conversation then?
Have they shown footage of the places their bombs have left craters so we can compare with the hospital footage? The video they released of them bombing targets in Lebanon while cars casually drive and blown away by the blast by didn't seem to leave craters IMO.
I wonder how big a crater their bomb at the UN school left earlier yesterday. Hamas don't have that level of rocket/missile and the crater argument is flimsy as fack.
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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If Israel are saying the hospital was false flag then yes, I am suggesting therefore that the Hamas attack could also have been a false flag.
Are you saying that only Hamas are capable of a false flag attack?
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Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
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comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 13 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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In that case isn't it far more likely that the attacks by Hamas were false flags to give Israel an excuse to do what their right wing government had already stated they want to do? I wouldn’t put it past Israel to kill its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the world and therefore support for their plans, no?
Either that or Hamas are very stoopid, but how can they be so organized and escape Israel's wrath and mossad for so long, and still be so stoopid as to launch this hapless attack that was guaranteed to achieve absolutely fack all but retaliation from Israel?
Now that the hospital has been hit, you are finally thinking like this. But when the Hamas attacks happened you accused anyone that alluded to it being a false flag of sympathizing with Hamas.
You're pathetic basically in how you just shift everything to fit your view.
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Israel must be stoopid if they’ve used a plane to bomb a hospital and then claim it was a rocket attack from Islamic militants.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
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And the hospital bombing was obviously not a false flag and Israel do no one any favours to suggest it was... works both ways.
Israeli guy was on BBC last night calling it a false flag and even giving examples of instances where he claims Hamas have done it in the past. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Stoopid of Israel to bring false flag attacks into the conversation as Hamas have little to no ability to carry out any sort of false flag attack, especially at the level witnessed.
They could at least tell us what kind of rocket was misfired and the payload on it as Hamas don't usually have heavy hitter rockets.
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posted 43 seconds ago
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posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
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Their breaking report that the destruction and mass death at the hospital was a result of an Israel air strike. I believed it indirectly because all media including the BBC reported it like this as well, but the source was still Hamas.
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Do you have a link? I find that hard to believe because we don't need Hamas to break the news that Israeli bombs have flattened yet another hospital in Gaza. They do it all the time.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
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And the hospital bombing was obviously not a false flag and Israel do no one any favours to suggest it was... works both ways.
Israeli guy was on BBC last night calling it a false flag and even giving examples of instances where he claims Hamas have done it in the past. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Stoopid of Israel to bring false flag attacks into the conversation as Hamas have little to no ability to carry out any sort of false flag attack, especially at the level witnessed.
They could at least tell us what kind of rocket was misfired and the payload on it as Hamas don't usually have heavy hitter rockets.
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I said in my post that I haven't seen anyone claiming Hamas deliberately targeted the hospital in order to blame Israel (a false flag) ...so why would you lead with that in your first sentence?
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posted 5 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
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Their breaking report that the destruction and mass death at the hospital was a result of an Israel air strike. I believed it indirectly because all media including the BBC reported it like this as well, but the source was still Hamas.
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Do you have a link? I find that hard to believe because we don't need Hamas to break the news that Israeli bombs have flattened yet another hospital in Gaza. They do it all the time.
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Eh just search BBC news coverage of yesterday. It was along the lines of "Israel airstrike kills 500, say Hamas."
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That's my point. Don't the BBC have their own people to tell them the hospital has been bombed? They got it from Hamas? Does that make sense to you? They could have just said "500 killed in hospital explosion".
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posted on 18/10/23
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 27 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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It would surprise me if it was Hamas, as even the Israelis aren't saying it was them.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 13 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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In that case isn't it far more likely that the attacks by Hamas were false flags to give Israel an excuse to do what their right wing government had already stated they want to do? I wouldn’t put it past Israel to kill its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the world and therefore support for their plans, no?
Either that or Hamas are very stoopid, but how can they be so organized and escape Israel's wrath and mossad for so long, and still be so stoopid as to launch this hapless attack that was guaranteed to achieve absolutely fack all but retaliation from Israel?
Now that the hospital has been hit, you are finally thinking like this. But when the Hamas attacks happened you accused anyone that alluded to it being a false flag of sympathizing with Hamas.
You're pathetic basically in how you just shift everything to fit your view.
posted on 18/10/23
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posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 33 seconds ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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Embarrassing post as usual. What a clown.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 33 seconds ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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Embarrassing post as usual. What a clown.
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posted on 18/10/23
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posted on 18/10/23
Sounds an awful lot like you're implying the Hamas attack on Oct 7th was a false flag K7
This place is getting worse than twitter . Here's what I know
Israel has bombed hospitals before
Hamas do not have the kind of munitions capable of leveling a hospital or causing hundreds of casualties with one strike
Video and photo footage released by Israel shows no crater (this is verified by Bellingcat who have a record for independent fact finding) which the IDF in usual Mr Big Bawls fashion say it couldn't have been their bombs because their bombs make big craters on account of them being really strong
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 17 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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Hamas have planes?
There's actual videos of it being bombed ffs.
You are a nodding donkey claiming it's propaganda ffs.
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Is there, where can I see this footage.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
posted on 18/10/23
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390254935851272?t=IdQjX25Kb1AyyEiDyTyAVg&s=19
Here's a good thread that looks into the footage so far and manages to refute claims by both sides... It doesn't give a conclusion though
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 53 seconds ago
Sounds an awful lot like you're implying the Hamas attack on Oct 7th was a false flag K7
This place is getting worse than twitter. Here's what I know
Israel has bombed hospitals before
Hamas do not have the kind of munitions capable of leveling a hospital or causing hundreds of casualties with one strike
Video and photo footage released by Israel shows no crater (this is verified by Bellingcat who have a record for independent fact finding) which the IDF in usual Mr Big Bawls fashion say it couldn't have been their bombs because their bombs make big craters on account of them being really strong
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You can't escape the false flag argument. It has been introduced now by none other than Israel themselves as they try to paint this hospital attack as a Hamas false flag. So that horse has already bolted thanks to Israel.
And you have to wonder how they can make this argument and at the same time attack anyone who reverses it on them, and label people as conspiracy theorists or plain insane. Especially when we know for a fact that Israel and USA have planned false flag attacks in the past. How can it not be in the conversation then?
Have they shown footage of the places their bombs have left craters so we can compare with the hospital footage? The video they released of them bombing targets in Lebanon while cars casually drive and blown away by the blast by didn't seem to leave craters IMO.
I wonder how big a crater their bomb at the UN school left earlier yesterday. Hamas don't have that level of rocket/missile and the crater argument is flimsy as fack.
posted on 18/10/23
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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If Israel are saying the hospital was false flag then yes, I am suggesting therefore that the Hamas attack could also have been a false flag.
Are you saying that only Hamas are capable of a false flag attack?
posted on 18/10/23
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posted on 18/10/23
Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
posted on 18/10/23
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posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 13 minutes ago
People believe what suits.
I’m not going to say the IDF didn’t bomb that hospital, because it wouldn’t surprise me if they did, but if it came out that is was an Islamic militant group, the nodding donkeys on here would claim it was propaganda. I wouldn’t put it past Hamas to bomb its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the Muslim world.
John Simpson has just said “ it isn’t necessary the facts, it’s what people believes what counts”.
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In that case isn't it far more likely that the attacks by Hamas were false flags to give Israel an excuse to do what their right wing government had already stated they want to do? I wouldn’t put it past Israel to kill its own people in the hope it causes outrage within the world and therefore support for their plans, no?
Either that or Hamas are very stoopid, but how can they be so organized and escape Israel's wrath and mossad for so long, and still be so stoopid as to launch this hapless attack that was guaranteed to achieve absolutely fack all but retaliation from Israel?
Now that the hospital has been hit, you are finally thinking like this. But when the Hamas attacks happened you accused anyone that alluded to it being a false flag of sympathizing with Hamas.
You're pathetic basically in how you just shift everything to fit your view.
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Israel must be stoopid if they’ve used a plane to bomb a hospital and then claim it was a rocket attack from Islamic militants.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
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And the hospital bombing was obviously not a false flag and Israel do no one any favours to suggest it was... works both ways.
Israeli guy was on BBC last night calling it a false flag and even giving examples of instances where he claims Hamas have done it in the past. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Stoopid of Israel to bring false flag attacks into the conversation as Hamas have little to no ability to carry out any sort of false flag attack, especially at the level witnessed.
They could at least tell us what kind of rocket was misfired and the payload on it as Hamas don't usually have heavy hitter rockets.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
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Their breaking report that the destruction and mass death at the hospital was a result of an Israel air strike. I believed it indirectly because all media including the BBC reported it like this as well, but the source was still Hamas.
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Do you have a link? I find that hard to believe because we don't need Hamas to break the news that Israeli bombs have flattened yet another hospital in Gaza. They do it all the time.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
Of course not and that's a ridiculous question to ask, I know this is a football forum but not everything we talk about is a competition
The Hamas attack on the 7th was obviously not a false flag and you do noone any favours to suggest it was. I haven't even seen anyone on here or twitter say the bombing of the hospital was a false flag, the claim is it was a misfired rocket
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And the hospital bombing was obviously not a false flag and Israel do no one any favours to suggest it was... works both ways.
Israeli guy was on BBC last night calling it a false flag and even giving examples of instances where he claims Hamas have done it in the past. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Stoopid of Israel to bring false flag attacks into the conversation as Hamas have little to no ability to carry out any sort of false flag attack, especially at the level witnessed.
They could at least tell us what kind of rocket was misfired and the payload on it as Hamas don't usually have heavy hitter rockets.
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I said in my post that I haven't seen anyone claiming Hamas deliberately targeted the hospital in order to blame Israel (a false flag) ...so why would you lead with that in your first sentence?
posted on 18/10/23
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posted 43 seconds ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 5 minutes ago
I'd like to apologise to Israel for prematurely blaming them. In hindsight why everyone including all mainstream media took the word of the terrorist government of Gaza as gospel is a surprise, even I got hooked in too. I still have questions about how a PIJ missile can kill so many people, but seeing the footage and the testimony of journalists who have access to the PIJ conversation is convincing, and it's more likely than not that Hamas lied about how many are dead.
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The footage they have presented hasn't been verified yet. You are basically choosing to believe propaganda at the moment. Like when Russia produces 'evidence' that Ukraine attacked themselves.
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Everyone, including me bizarrely, chose to believe Hamas on word of mouth at first.
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Why? What exactly did Hamas say that you believed?
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Their breaking report that the destruction and mass death at the hospital was a result of an Israel air strike. I believed it indirectly because all media including the BBC reported it like this as well, but the source was still Hamas.
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Do you have a link? I find that hard to believe because we don't need Hamas to break the news that Israeli bombs have flattened yet another hospital in Gaza. They do it all the time.
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Eh just search BBC news coverage of yesterday. It was along the lines of "Israel airstrike kills 500, say Hamas."
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That's my point. Don't the BBC have their own people to tell them the hospital has been bombed? They got it from Hamas? Does that make sense to you? They could have just said "500 killed in hospital explosion".
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