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They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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posted 8 seconds ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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They are a walking talking violation of international law.
The status quo in Palestine and denial of rights is a continuing violation of international law.
No wonder other countries are telling us to fack off when we try to preach. Hypocrisy and double standards aplenty.
When China invades Taiwan the Taiwanese will terrorise their asses left, right and centre and will still be seen as the victims fighting for freedom.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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That's settled then.
Hard to believe that the head spokesperson of the IDF blames the enemy really isn't it.
That's that sewn up then.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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He didnt, Also it wasnt a bomb, they are claiming a misfired rocket, as the mornings exchanges have illustrated thats not clear either.
We wont see an independant UN investigator go in to clear this up, because of course they are not allowed.
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“Ooh, we hit a terrorist base’
“Oh, it was actually a hospital, let’s blame everyone else”
“Remind Biden we’re only 13 months away from an election”
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posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
Aware this is very centrist dad but I don't know why we have to jump to conclusions.
It wouldn't be a surprise if Isreal did it, but I think a missile backfiring and Hamas lying about the cause and death total is equally as likely.
I don't think you can really trust either side in this situation until it gets independently verified.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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I dont even trust the audio that Israel have put out, Doctoring videos is far harder, and even that can be done seamlessly and in minutes now,
Hell still images can be done via AI very quickly, and AI detectors arent worth the time it takes to use them, their accuracy is minute.
Its amazing how quickly this bombing has become an umbrella to protect israel from all the other atrocities, and its an incident we wont EVER be able to confirm or deny, in part because humanitarian aid isnt being allowed in, let alone impartial observers.
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Come on IRU the diplomatic effect this has had is massive, it could have invited Iran to the war. If all this was based on a lie to cover a screw-up then it deserves huge condemnation and an even bigger drive to get rid of Hamas and that other terrorist group PIJ.
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I dont see why you are operating under the assumption that this was definitely a Hamas missile "Gone wrong"
and if it was a missile "Gone wrong" then its nothing more than a tragedy.
Personally all i see is your confirmation bias, accepting Israeli state propoganda, i see nothing concrete, and unless they let UN investigators in to look at these issues, and ease the plight of the palestinians then theres no reason to let Israel off the hook for 10 days of eradicating civilians.
Theres plenty of other concrete war crimes they have committed the last 11 days, there will be more, People are dieing of thirst, they have turned back on just 4% of the water supply.
Regardless of this hospital bombing, israel have shown themselves up as expansionist racist skum, and are no better than Hamas.
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Israeli side has videos and audios, Hamas word of mouth was enough for confirmation by this thread yesterday evening, and people all over the world to set off mass protests that increasingly look like they were based on lies.
It's not just the Israeli surveillance, it's the assessment of the damage by experts this morning. As BBC have now picked up on, the tiny crater and minimal damage to nearby structures is not consistent with typical Israeli weapons. Also I don't know why you're saying the hospital was miles and miles away from the missile launch site, it really wasn't.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1714606810013811170
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People aren't protesting because of the hospital.
They are protesting about 10 days of atrocities, which have been listed repeatedly.
And there is plenty of statements refuting the IDF audio and videos. Hamad have videos taken from people's mobiles in the area showing a missile screaming in and exploding.
We have gone from "no crater" to "it's a tiny crater, our bombs create bigger craters, the hugest"
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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That’s not the take on BBC 5 live, well it wasn’t a few hours ago. I’ll take your word on the t.
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Sounds like BS to me anyways.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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He didnt, Also it wasnt a bomb, they are claiming a misfired rocket, as the mornings exchanges have illustrated thats not clear either.
We wont see an independant UN investigator go in to clear this up, because of course they are not allowed.
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And pray tell why this is the case? If everything is above board then why stop investigators from coming in?
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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That’s not the take on BBC 5 live, well it wasn’t a few hours ago. I’ll take your word on the t.
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They've been reporting that Israel have said it was PIJ on the BBC since last night.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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They aren't able to build water infrastructure. Israel controls all the water supply and it is illegal for Palestine to build any. If they tried, the IDF would just destroy it.
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posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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In May Israeli Defence Ministry Director General Eyal said the country was on the brink of becoming an AI superpower.
AI hmmm. I'm wondering if it possible to manipulate video with this AI thingy.
And why were there no IDS guards at the Gaza border on the 7th?
Why do some people on here think only those sneaky Arabs are capable of a false flag op?
Netanyahoo is getting everything he wants now. Why wouldn't he sacrifice a thousand or so to ensure the end of Hamas and Gaza? I think they called that realpolitik.
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posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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You have to give it up to them. Usually their rockets only manage to kill a handful of people.
Their new found ability to make a rocket that causes as much damage as a high grade missile out of water pipes is genius levels.
Makes you wonder who planned the Saturday attacks as that was a pretty stoopid move.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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If Israel are saying the hospital was false flag then yes, I am suggesting therefore that the Hamas attack could also have been a false flag.
Are you saying that only Hamas are capable of a false flag attack?
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Oh.
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They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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They aren't able to build water infrastructure. Israel controls all the water supply and it is illegal for Palestine to build any. If they tried, the IDF would just destroy it.
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In that case then they need to accept this, stay down and not provoke Israel.
Goddamit why are they provoking Israel?!???
Titty showing how much he knows about this region.
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 seconds ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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They are a walking talking violation of international law.
The status quo in Palestine and denial of rights is a continuing violation of international law.
No wonder other countries are telling us to fack off when we try to preach. Hypocrisy and double standards aplenty.
When China invades Taiwan the Taiwanese will terrorise their asses left, right and centre and will still be seen as the victims fighting for freedom.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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That's settled then.
posted on 18/10/23
Hard to believe that the head spokesperson of the IDF blames the enemy really isn't it.
That's that sewn up then.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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He didnt, Also it wasnt a bomb, they are claiming a misfired rocket, as the mornings exchanges have illustrated thats not clear either.
We wont see an independant UN investigator go in to clear this up, because of course they are not allowed.
posted on 18/10/23
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“Ooh, we hit a terrorist base’
“Oh, it was actually a hospital, let’s blame everyone else”
“Remind Biden we’re only 13 months away from an election”
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comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
posted on 18/10/23
Aware this is very centrist dad but I don't know why we have to jump to conclusions.
It wouldn't be a surprise if Isreal did it, but I think a missile backfiring and Hamas lying about the cause and death total is equally as likely.
I don't think you can really trust either side in this situation until it gets independently verified.
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posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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I dont even trust the audio that Israel have put out, Doctoring videos is far harder, and even that can be done seamlessly and in minutes now,
Hell still images can be done via AI very quickly, and AI detectors arent worth the time it takes to use them, their accuracy is minute.
Its amazing how quickly this bombing has become an umbrella to protect israel from all the other atrocities, and its an incident we wont EVER be able to confirm or deny, in part because humanitarian aid isnt being allowed in, let alone impartial observers.
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Come on IRU the diplomatic effect this has had is massive, it could have invited Iran to the war. If all this was based on a lie to cover a screw-up then it deserves huge condemnation and an even bigger drive to get rid of Hamas and that other terrorist group PIJ.
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I dont see why you are operating under the assumption that this was definitely a Hamas missile "Gone wrong"
and if it was a missile "Gone wrong" then its nothing more than a tragedy.
Personally all i see is your confirmation bias, accepting Israeli state propoganda, i see nothing concrete, and unless they let UN investigators in to look at these issues, and ease the plight of the palestinians then theres no reason to let Israel off the hook for 10 days of eradicating civilians.
Theres plenty of other concrete war crimes they have committed the last 11 days, there will be more, People are dieing of thirst, they have turned back on just 4% of the water supply.
Regardless of this hospital bombing, israel have shown themselves up as expansionist racist skum, and are no better than Hamas.
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Israeli side has videos and audios, Hamas word of mouth was enough for confirmation by this thread yesterday evening, and people all over the world to set off mass protests that increasingly look like they were based on lies.
It's not just the Israeli surveillance, it's the assessment of the damage by experts this morning. As BBC have now picked up on, the tiny crater and minimal damage to nearby structures is not consistent with typical Israeli weapons. Also I don't know why you're saying the hospital was miles and miles away from the missile launch site, it really wasn't.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1714606810013811170
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People aren't protesting because of the hospital.
They are protesting about 10 days of atrocities, which have been listed repeatedly.
And there is plenty of statements refuting the IDF audio and videos. Hamad have videos taken from people's mobiles in the area showing a missile screaming in and exploding.
We have gone from "no crater" to "it's a tiny crater, our bombs create bigger craters, the hugest"
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They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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That’s not the take on BBC 5 live, well it wasn’t a few hours ago. I’ll take your word on the t.
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On it*
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Sounds like BS to me anyways.
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posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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He didnt, Also it wasnt a bomb, they are claiming a misfired rocket, as the mornings exchanges have illustrated thats not clear either.
We wont see an independant UN investigator go in to clear this up, because of course they are not allowed.
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And pray tell why this is the case? If everything is above board then why stop investigators from coming in?
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comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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That’s not the take on BBC 5 live, well it wasn’t a few hours ago. I’ll take your word on the t.
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They've been reporting that Israel have said it was PIJ on the BBC since last night.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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They aren't able to build water infrastructure. Israel controls all the water supply and it is illegal for Palestine to build any. If they tried, the IDF would just destroy it.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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In May Israeli Defence Ministry Director General Eyal said the country was on the brink of becoming an AI superpower.
AI hmmm. I'm wondering if it possible to manipulate video with this AI thingy.
And why were there no IDS guards at the Gaza border on the 7th?
Why do some people on here think only those sneaky Arabs are capable of a false flag op?
Netanyahoo is getting everything he wants now. Why wouldn't he sacrifice a thousand or so to ensure the end of Hamas and Gaza? I think they called that realpolitik.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
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The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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You have to give it up to them. Usually their rockets only manage to kill a handful of people.
Their new found ability to make a rocket that causes as much damage as a high grade missile out of water pipes is genius levels.
Makes you wonder who planned the Saturday attacks as that was a pretty stoopid move.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 35 seconds ago
A lot of words mate... Are you saying the Hamas attack was a false flag or just playing devil's advocate?
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If Israel are saying the hospital was false flag then yes, I am suggesting therefore that the Hamas attack could also have been a false flag.
Are you saying that only Hamas are capable of a false flag attack?
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Oh.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by tliv7-0 (U11882)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gaffer Pranks loves spurs (U22336)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
They violated international law by turning off the water, by indiscriminately bombing civilian structures, By forcibly evicting palestinians from their land, by bombing refugees, by targetting medical staff, by targetting journalists..
I could go on.
But yeah, no way Israel would break international law and target a hospital
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Biden said this morning Hamas bombed the hospital
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No one is saying its Hamas. They are saying it is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group.
Well, Biden actually said it was the 'other team'. Splitting people onto teams is really helpful for the civilians caught up in this, but does help to dehumanise the situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The other team is Hamas.
Agree though the language is unhelpful and it’s a BS statement anyways.
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No, in this instance the other team is the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group. That is who the IDF are saying it is and Biden was agreeing with how their assessment appeared.
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Hamas/PIJ rockets misfire all the time, we just don't hear about the ones that land in some random field or shed. That's what happens when you use water pipes to build bombs instead of transporting water to the population you are meant to be responsible for.
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They aren't able to build water infrastructure. Israel controls all the water supply and it is illegal for Palestine to build any. If they tried, the IDF would just destroy it.
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In that case then they need to accept this, stay down and not provoke Israel.
Goddamit why are they provoking Israel?!???
posted on 18/10/23
Titty showing how much he knows about this region.
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